No the girl is still waiting she won't get the heart/lung transplant until she is desperate ,this is how it works for everyone.

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)

Jesus didn't approve of people acquiring stacks of cash, so Godot is totally justified in bringing attention to Cameron's unChristian attitude in keeping the cash (having spent a bit on his loved ones and a nice piano for him to play at his Church (yes, he is the pianist)).

For those of you who question Cameron's need to share with us his choice of what to do with his wad - let us not forget he was never one to shy away from sharing his beliefs, offering us readings from the bible, and has claimed, since leaving the BB house, that he would like to be involved in projects to spread the word of Jesus.

Well, Cameron, put your money where your mouth is mate, and you might see me in Church on Sunday! Go on, you know Jesus would - he did!

P.S. And he got by with a donkey; don't think he'd approve of flash cars...

who knows, maybe the donkey was the 'flash car' back then

Nah, that was your 'Dromedary XJS' mate.

LOL

I would have liked to have said that! - But you said it better !

Well done !!!

Cameron is Not Jesus He has the right to give as much or as little to charity as the next man/woman has.
Cameron has never claimed to be a
'Self Righteous Christian' that title was given to him by the people who had to Spin his believes out of all recognition.

Cameron never offered you or anyone else Readings from the bible.
He went into the Diary Room and read his bible. He read passages from the bible that he felt would give him strenght to behave in a christian way towards his fellow housemates. He didn't always have Jesus's strenght, hench his unchristian anger towards Lisa. That is why people who practise any religeon use their Holy-Book to try and adhere to the rules of their chosen religeon.
The Double Agent Judas Prick..le also bored the pants of BB with his reading of Shakespeare. That's what the diary room is for. The housemates are supposed to use the diary room to talk over any problems they feel they do not want to share with their housemates.
Cameron has said If he was asked to do Songs of Praise he might be interested. That if his believes helped someone who was struggling with their believes that would be grand.

I would think it quite likely that Cameron will give a large % to charity and that he probably covenants a fair % via Direct debit which is how most people in modern churches give to their churches and charities [certainly our family and most of our friends do].
I don't know how much he has given to church/charities and neither do you, but I would guess he gives his tithe and how many of you commit at least 1 day a week to working with young people?
The fact that he has been involved with an orphanage in Africa, youth work [time commitments are often more difficult for people than money and giving regular commitnments in that way says alot!!!!], suggest to me he will give, but out of the public eye as the Bible encourages the giving not to be done in a blaze of publicity.

The basic fact is whatever he did would have been pulled to pieces on here and this blinkered approach is why many people have shied away from posting on here. He won, it is easy to say how you would have spent the money if you didn't win [although I feel Ray was upfront and would have given, it is all ifs and buts!!]. He has never mentioned buying a £50,000 car that I have heard. In fact in car discussions he has said the opposite and seems to take care with his money [another point which makes me think he gives regularly], the piano which people have said seems mean may just be the first thing he thought of and none of us know what the future might bring.

Quite a lot of assumptions, there, Northgirl, and not a scrap of evidence to support any of it. How you can presume that it is 'quite likely' that he covenants money and will donate much more is beyond me. You might as well say that he is 'quite likely' to sleep with choirboys (basing this on the fact that someone in my church did) or win the lottery (as did another member.)

Personally I don't care whether he blows the lot on a gold plated bible or loose women and wine; it's up to him now. Didn't want him to, but he won. With all due respect, isn't there another site that you would feel more comfortable with - it's Devoted to Cameron. You wouldn't get any criticisms there.

'With all due respect', people are entitled to post their opinion here whether you like it or not. People are just as likely to criticise your opinions as you are theirs.

I might get one of these "What Would Jon Do" bracelets. Where are they available again?

So basically Dizzy blonde - you are saying it is ok to make negative assumptions [buying a £50,000 car and being mean with money claims] but not extrapolate positives from what you have seen of the guy and heard about his contributions to church life. No figment of my imagination that he gives alot of his time to the church and in my experience donating money to groups you are actively involved with normally goes hand in hand.
Unlike you I don't mind sensible debate and don't want a site with no opposing views but would like to see some people open their mind to the possibility that Cameron does have some good points. Thanks for the advice about the other site, but I don't feel like being hounded out by some here.

SO SORRY TO DISAPPOINT DIZZY !!!!

Sorry, but when was he involved and worked at an orphanage in Africa?

When did he give regular commitments to youth work?

Ps

A ten day holiday to visit the friends who run the orphanage, whom he hadn't seen since he was at their wedding, doesn't count as being "involved with an orphanage in Africa".

So first off he didn't read a passage from the bible on the second last day of BB to the other HMs?

During the bell task, he is clearly seen reading the bible to himself between the arguments. So if he can quietly read the bible to himself to, give himself as you say inner strength, then why did hr need to go to the DR and read out loud? Only one reason you read something out loud from the bible, it's called preaching.

Big difference from reading out plays which are basically entertainment, and the bible, which many would have us all living our lives by it's rules and guidelines.

As for Songs of Praise, he hasn't got a hope, they wouldn't want anyone who could attract adverse publicity, re his own unsavoury behaviour within the house which C4 didn't show 99% off. Stating on National TV that you would like to suffocate someone, smash someones face down their throats, punch their face in etc etc, is not what is expected of a Songs of Praise presenter.

To be fair to him, the HM's asked him to read from the book before the 'Christmas dinner' on the second last day.

I don't think Cameron would want you to judge him as some kind of Saint, that can do or say no wrong or that his Christian beliefs bar him from some of the laddish banter that went on in the house. The remarks were made in light-hearted way and I don't think he would have actually carried them out.

Yes, they did but where did they get that idea from? if they didn't know he had a bible and read passages from it, would they have asked? Don't know about yourself lulu, but i've never heard of anyone reading the bible at a December xmas dinner before, let alone a July xmas dinner. You can say grace without having to consult the bible.

That was just the one i remembered off the top off my head, but he did take his bible out and read out from it earlier in the series, trying hard to remember the exact occassion, will have to consult my tape collection.
But anyway the fact still remains, as an avid viewer of BB, he would know they showed the DR entries unless it was something of a confidential nature, so that by reading from the Bible in the DR he was offering readings and therefor preaching to those who watched.

According to Marcus Bentley's narration, it was Cameron who wanted to read the passage out. I think the others just went along with it to make him happy.

lol, yeah I was never subjected to it myself at any period of my life, strange really, product of a mixed marriage (one side fiercely RC other stauch prods), mind you that's probably why! Parents were prob fed up having it rammed down their own throats.

lu

I don't know the ins and outs of the orphanage but I didn't say he worked there but having friends who have worked in African hospitals and Romanian orphanages the contact has always involved me in fund-raising and helping in ways I could [sorry - yes an assumption but based on personal experience].

The regular commitments to youth work - several places it has been written by local friends and what he has said himself leads me to believe he is a youth leader within his church and with the local young people [something which takes commitment, energy, and alot of patience - again speaking from experience].

I don't think he is a saint or hero worship him. He has several faults [gossiping and sometimes over critical being 2], but I feel he is trying to be better and he has very likeable characteristics [caring, friendly, not taking himself too seriously etc] so I hate to see everything he does twisted and manipulated to make him look evil [maybe some of you are naturals to work for Endemol !!!!!].

There are 2 sides to every story and I am willing to consider both sides - are you?

Hate to draw attention to myself, but I would like to take several of the posters who have come on here to defend Cameron back to the original point I made.

Jesus made it very plain through his teachings "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24) is certiainly not the only one of Jesus' teachings which deals with wealth. Jesus was wholly against the idea of personal wealth and he taught that particular lesson in the most straightforward way possible - he himself lived as a pauper and did everything he could to give to the poor. It was, for me, one of the most powerful and meaningful messages he offered.

Now, when Cameron was asked about sex before marriage and gay marriages, he, a proud Christian, quoted the bible as a reason for his beliefs. I would have much less of a problem with Cameron if he didn't pick and choose the bits of the bible he was prepared to live by. For me, it's not a supermarket, where you pick a little bit of this and a little bit of that. If you really believe that Jesus message is the correct one, then I'm sorry but NOBODY could argue that Jesus would want Cameron to give the £70K away to the needy, rather than spend it on a nice bathroom for his brother and a fast car for himself. So, whilst I might not have agreed with his views before, I had to respect that it was what he chose to believe. Now, however, his behaviour smacks of hypocrisy and that I despise.

He should tell us if he is going to give the money away because to do so he would be acting in the way that Jesus did. Jesus led by example - he didn't just tell other people how to live their lives he lived that life too. He sacrificed many things, the ultimate being his own life, for his fellow man. Cameron, on the other hand, is not prepared to demonstrate that what we can expect a good Christian to do is to care for those less well off than himself. No use doing it in private - and no, I simply don't accept that he would be criticised (and I would be the first to defend him if he was) if he did do the Christian thing and give this money to a more worthy cause than a fast car.

His behaviour is totally indefensible as far as Christianity is concerned, personal gain v helping the needy. No case in which the former wins I'm afraid.

The 'buying a big car' is not an assumption. He himself said that was what he was going to do with the bulk of the money. His mother, Doris, said that it was a Lexus he was going to buy, top of the range.
And as for being frugal, he himself said that he was while in the house, more than once, but specifically in a discussion I recall with Steph about the purchase of household items.
So neither point was an assumption.

For Jesus the love of money over God is the problem rather than having money/possesions itself. Why don't we wait and see what he does with what he has been given and don't make assumptions about him from a throwaway comment from his mum about the car.
In Luke 16 Jesus teaches about being trustworthy with our wealth, Jesus also uses parables to make us think about using the gifts we are given. As a relatively new christian, Cameron may struggle with some worldly elements and still be looking at the way to go. Jesus also teaches to take the plank out of our own eyes and maybe that is something you could consider before picking holes in someone's developing faith [without knowing the full picture as well].
I try to live according to live the faith as God would want, but know I stumble sometimes, maybe you feel you don't - more fool you as we all sin and fall short, but by grace can be redeemed. If you don't believe in God fair enough that is your choice, but don't pick on someone trying to live their faith whilest being picked up on every little thing [true or not].

Come on now, even the hierarchy of the Church live a wealthy lifestyle and are remunerated rather well, together with the grace and favour additions they receive. I don't see them living the 'life' of Jesus, so why expect Cameron?