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Why Do The Bbc Lie?
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NeverInDoubt
20-05-2008
Sounds like they did choose their own songs but off their previously submitted list. So they couldn't randomly pick a song themselves, it had to be one off their list which they hadn't performed before.
piper333
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“so you from Glasgow..........lol”

well you have the proof now, it`s all in the teeth seeÉ

lol
CASPER1066
20-05-2008
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“QUOTE=piper333;23827407]well you have the proof now, it`s all in the teeth seeÉ

lol”

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yea when the mouth drops open....and your head swings 190 degrees just like JB............
thenetworkbabe
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by piper333:
“Mr. Spielberg I believe you know what you are talking about, due to who you are, but at the same time, perhaps they can fiddle with the word choose, because they did come from a compiled list that the girls liked and were familiar with?

I don't know...it is still more choosing than having a song totally thrust on them that they are not at all familiar with.”

Choose only describes one final stage in a process. If i say to Sam last week you would sound really good singing X next week and she comes back next week and says I would like to sing X she chose it. Similarly if Rachel says i was thinking of singing Y or Z and someone says how about P - thats also still her choice. If Jessie then comes up with dire choice number 121 and no one tells her its dire thats also her choice.

Rachel has experience of auditions too so I would expect her to make a more puposeful choice that showcased her voice.

The better answer would be to find a song each that let everyone shine or to find one that equally required them all to do what they are suspect at doing. This show habitually creates an uneven playing field by giving some girls the irrelevant or the impossible or the unrewarding and allowing others to coast in their comfort zone. After weeks of people getting killer songs and songs that ALW admits were wrong for them, its not surprising if people's eyebrows rise when only one Nancy makes a brilliant song choice and the 2 in closest compettition with her make decidedly bad ones.
whip
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by Dreamer27:
“I was just assuming that as you think there's a conspiracy going on that you thought Jodie got a bad song to knock her out the competition. Your slightly touchy, I was wondering.”

I'm touchy? Strange I'm not the one creating wild conspiracy theory's out of simple statements of fact. You seem very touchy about the situation.
MrSpielberg
20-05-2008
Jodie did get a bad song! She never chose that song!
IF she would have had the ability to choose a song we all know there are songs she would have much better suited!
But she again made the best she could out of it and showed the judges and the public that she deserves to be in the semi finals!
lulu g
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by MrSpielberg:
“Jodie did get a bad song! She never chose that song!
IF she would have had the ability to choose a song we all know there are songs she would have much better suited!
But she again made the best she could out of it and showed the judges and the public that she deserves to be in the semi finals!”

So how did she come to be singing that song?
stanlina
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by MrSpielberg:
“Jodie did get a bad song! She never chose that song!
IF she would have had the ability to choose a song we all know there are songs she would have much better suited!
But she again made the best she could out of it and showed the judges and the public that she deserves to be in the semi finals!”

that is so interesting, MrS; i wonder what song she would have preferred to sing...
if true, the BBC producers should be ashamed of themselves for telling porkies...
MrSpielberg
20-05-2008
She came to be singing that song because she was told to sing it!
She didnt have any say in the matter!
stanlina
20-05-2008
oh deary dear.... you mean the producers are [shock horror] trying to manipulate the outcome of this show?!
bigbazzer
20-05-2008
My thoughts exactly!
These girls all work hard and just want a level playing field!
The BBC should be ashamed.........
lulu g
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by MrSpielberg:
“She came to be singing that song because she was told to sing it!
She didnt have any say in the matter!”

Trying to level the playing field a bit, I imagine.

Edit - Probably the wrong sporting analogy. Giving her a handicap might be more appropriate.
stanlina
20-05-2008
i guess the producers are having to placate the likes of CM and ALW - pity they don't appreciate the contract of trust they are meant to have with their viewers....this is like Ant n Dec all over again...
Golden anemone
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by stanlina:
“i guess the producers are having to placate the likes of CM and ALW - pity they don't appreciate the contract of trust they are meant to have with their viewers....this is like Ant n Dec all over again...”

It's funny really. They have been criticised and fined for manipulating the phone votes and know they can't get away with this now so they have to look for other ways to manipulate it. Why are we so cynical?
stanlina
20-05-2008
it will all come out in the end; it's just very sad if true.
eponine121
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by bigbazzer:
“My thoughts exactly!
These girls all work hard and just want a level playing field!
The BBC should be ashamed.........”

Exactly - a level playing field is what was needed but unfortunately not what they got!
piper333
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by MrSpielberg:
“Jodie did get a bad song! She never chose that song!
IF she would have had the ability to choose a song we all know there are songs she would have much better suited!
But she again made the best she could out of it and showed the judges and the public that she deserves to be in the semi finals!”

this proves again to me anyway, and what i always say about this excuse of evictees that they had a bad song choice being the reason for their going... if you are liked and do with it what you can, you don't go anywhere.

rachel had a very well known song and did a reasonable job, in the bottom 2.

so many factors weigh into it, least of all the song choice.

has Jessie been in the bottom 2 yet? a couple of hers have been dire as well.
hotgosslips
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by MrSpielberg:
“I KNOW the girls did NOT get to choose which songs they sang this week!
So why oh why do the BBC lie and say that the girls chose their own songs?”

I don't know about anyone else but shouldn't all girls be able to sing ANY song given to them. Sams song this weeks range was so high she was left with the biggest possibility to make a pitch error, than other girls who had rather safe songs. does it matter what songs are sung as they should all be able to sing any of the songs on the show each weekend. MrS you should be a shamed of yourself for manipulating people by making these accusations. im sure if any nancy disagree with any songs given to them then they would say as they all seem strong characters able to make thier own decisions.
i just hope people don't change thier minds on which nancy is thier favourite, as i jave to admit reading these forums so many things said are lies making people change there minds. i had a favourite fromt he start and she is now in the semi finals, yeah!
MrSpielberg
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by hotgosslips:
“I don't know about anyone else but shouldn't all girls be able to sing ANY song given to them. Sams song this weeks range was so high she was left with the biggest possibility to make a pitch error, than other girls who had rather safe songs. does it matter what songs are sung as they should all be able to sing any of the songs on the show each weekend. MrS you should be a shamed of yourself for manipulating people by making these accusations. im sure if any nancy disagree with any songs given to them then they would say as they all seem strong characters able to make thier own decisions.
i just hope people don't change thier minds on which nancy is thier favourite, as i jave to admit reading these forums so many things said are lies making people change there minds. i had a favourite fromt he start and she is now in the semi finals, yeah!”

Manipulating people me ? No just telling the facts! And you are wrong Im afraid to say. Many of the songs given to the Nancy's would have been changed if the could have. But no matter how strong their character they do NOT get a choice!!!!!!
Golden anemone
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by hotgosslips:
“I don't know about anyone else but shouldn't all girls be able to sing ANY song given to them. Sams song this weeks range was so high she was left with the biggest possibility to make a pitch error, than other girls who had rather safe songs. does it matter what songs are sung as they should all be able to sing any of the songs on the show each weekend. MrS you should be a shamed of yourself for manipulating people by making these accusations. im sure if any nancy disagree with any songs given to them then they would say as they all seem strong characters able to make thier own decisions.
i just hope people don't change thier minds on which nancy is thier favourite, as i jave to admit reading these forums so many things said are lies making people change there minds. i had a favourite fromt he start and she is now in the semi finals, yeah!”

For the record, I think it's ridiculous to say that any of the girls' songs this week were safe. They were all very difficult songs in different ways. I don't think anyone credible has said otherwise so far.
ewoodie
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by Golden anemone:
“I couldn't possibly tell you that. I also work for the BBC and they'll get on to me. Just think, then the BBC would be on Nancy's Fanny and that just wouldn't do my dear.
Good night, sleep well. Tomorrow is another bitchfest!”

Great post!!!
ewoodie
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by MrSpielberg:
“Manipulating people me ? No just telling the facts! And you are wrong Im afraid to say. Many of the songs given to the Nancy's would have been changed if the could have. But no matter how strong their character they do NOT get a choice!!!!!!”

You mentioned ALW's posse in an earlier post who are they?
Golden anemone
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Great post!!!”

Why thank you ewoodie. Clearly I'm at my wittiest when I'm falling asleep at my computer.
MrSpielberg
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“You mentioned ALW's posse in an earlier post who are they?”

A group of people who get up early Sunday morning and go for breakfast together in a nice little cafe nearby. The discuss the girls and songs and thats where the songs are chosen.
ewoodie
20-05-2008
Originally Posted by MrSpielberg:
“A group of people who get up early Sunday morning and go for breakfast together in a nice little cafe nearby. The discuss the girls and songs and thats where the songs are chosen.”

Are the judges in the posse?
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