To be honest with you, that one is not one which i have referred to when arguing about cameron's behavioour, as it was shown on the C4 highlights. It's the others which were said and never shown by C4 which get me, the ones where there is no " i'm only joking" after they were said. The ones like punching Jon's lights out, punching Jon's face down his throat, suffocating nush (which ray told him to shut up, when he said it) etc. All off which weren't shown on C4. Of course anything steph and cameron ever said, was always said in the nicest possible way.

Just a general assessment of their overall characters - nothing to do with Jon.

Ray is an unthinking yob, Steph is a small-minded turd (re. the death penalty discussion) and Gos is a lazy, sweaty, foulmouthed non-entity.

Jon was slumming it in that house whatever his faults. The same goes for Federico and Sissy - and Lisa deserved better than rubbing shoulders with that insular, self-satisfied bunch.

Thats cuz theyre thick as pigsh*t maybe? Certainly Cameron is all jolly and nice and in possession of 70K they might have had for themselves if they hadn't tried to pretend that BB was a cutesy fluffy bunny holiday among friends. My dog couldve got the 70k easier than Steph or gos (and shes been dead 7 years)

thms doesn't have a lot to say about gos

Still pretty sick, whatever meant as a joke or not.

Sorry but Ray is as shallow as you can get, his desire for fame and adoration are proof of that. Gos is just easily led.

Well I taped it and have just attempted to watch it (mainly on FF.)
Most 'interesting' thing for me was the facts they gave
During his 64 days in the house Cameron ate 193 meals of which he cooked 42. " Am assuming they are counting putting toast under the grill as cooking a meal as I can't recall him cooking that much.

Maybe everyone is starting to realise what some of us have always known. Jon is just an arrogant bully who is clinging to some notion that he is important. The way he acted in the last week in the house and his subsequent 'aren't I such a star' attitude on other shows has revealed just what a dislikeable character he is. The less we see of that smug face the better as far as I'm concerned.

Gos makes me sick, when cam was in the house and gos was out ,gos was all over jon and fed and know he is slagging them off.

too face c'''''t

Same could be said for cameron.

Exactly. Gos is a totally insincere, sleazy git.

Ditto Jon. Obviously. At least Ray has a rougish charm and a personality. Not something you can say about Jon.

That's because there is nothing interesting about gos. :yawn:

Gos seems like a nice bloke, he joined in with the slagging of cuz jon would have jumped on him.

A hell of a leap in judgement to come to that conclusion. Very weak resoning.

Name *one* bullying thing Jon did.

Still doesn't follow ludovica.If Jon truly is the 'legend' that everyone seems to believe,you'd be expecting them to say 'great bloke' about him,instead we got the complete opposite.Dismissing them as 'thick b**tards' as has been said in this thread is probably wide off the mark.

I suppose the cheers Jon received during his two evictions and when he returned to the house are a figment of everyone's imagination then.

The interesting thing about Gos is that, despite being (as someone just said, thick, boring, stupid, lazy etc.. he is smart enough to see which way the land lies and how to extract greatest advantage for himself from any given situation. that makes him very cunning in my book, an animal cunning rather than Camerons calculating game plan
Jon on the other hand (bless him) was the truly ingenuous one in the house, because he misread the housemates and the public, and his own ability to turn things

Listed many times in this forum. If you missed them - buy the DVD when it comes out.

Agreed. Jon is endearingly naive as well as smart.

Gos is indeed cunning as well as a mediocre waste of space, which makes him doubly vile as far as I'm concerned.

Is it one with sleeves? Perhaps he could give it to Gos.

I didn't say he didn't have fans. I said he doesn't have a personality and lacks charm. Maybe you were replying to another post

You mean you can't list even one thing to substantiate your claims?

The DVD will no doubt be edited in Cameron's favour too.

hehe weren't you watching BB4?

err.. one off the top my head... in the 1960s reward room, bullying Cameron to give an opinion...

IMO Steph Ray Gos etc are the sort of people who would stand by and be Camerons "Yes men", they clump together to try to establish a mass consciousness which they continually try to reinforce by reiterating the same things over again. Cameron, by thumping the table asserted his dominance over the group (yet again)
You are assuming that your assessment of a "great bloke" is the same as theirs , which I doubt , as you seem to be able to express opinions of your own.. I think that groups idea of a great bloke is someone who smiles at them and doesnt bully THEM
Whereas I daresay that most of us here would prefer a person with their own personality?