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Old 21-05-2008, 22:05
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Is this show fixed or something?????? How the hell did Raef get fired over Michael????????

If Lucinda leaves next week I wont watch the final 5 as they are all shit/boring!
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Old 21-05-2008, 22:06
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Can't believe Raiffee has gone Only numpties left now!
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Old 21-05-2008, 22:07
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I agree, can't believe Raefs gone!! Lucinda is the only one left I like now!
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Old 21-05-2008, 22:08
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Lucinda is the only nice one left but she won't be hired in a million years. Sir Alan would never work with her so it looks like we're getting a nasty winner.
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Old 21-05-2008, 22:09
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The Spoken Word Was His Toold - RIP Raef
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Old 21-05-2008, 22:09
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Just said that to my wife - what's the point in watching now? Apart from Lucinda, they're all shits.
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Old 21-05-2008, 22:10
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I honestly get the feeling that a lot of things in this programme are fixed in order to increase ratings.

Michael kkeps getting saved so that we'll all be talking about it for weeks, the pretty guy will last for ages because it keeps girls watching.

It's all fake.
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Old 21-05-2008, 23:26
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There was just one problem with Raif, he was useless. As are Alex, Michael and Helen.
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Old 21-05-2008, 23:29
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I honestly get the feeling that a lot of things in this programme are fixed in order to increase ratings.

Michael kkeps getting saved so that we'll all be talking about it for weeks, the pretty guy will last for ages because it keeps girls watching.

It's all fake.
You think Michael is pretty ??
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Old 21-05-2008, 23:31
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There was just one problem with Raif, he was useless. As are Alex, Michael and Helen.
He most certianly is not 'useles'...he was largely responible for his team winning on a number of occasions!

Tre's coloumn:

Raef's record over the period is generally good; he's certainly made a greater contribution than either Claire or Michael. Don't forget, he came up with the singles day concept that gave his team a win, bought the best bargain - the cowhide - in Marrakesh, and last week made the bold decision to get the all-important high-value wedding dresses; ultimately, that move led to the big prize.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/apprentice/column.html
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Old 21-05-2008, 23:36
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He most certianly is not 'useles'...he was largely responible for his team winning on a number of occasions!

Tre's coloumn:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/apprentice/column.html
Actually he was, single's day? just before Valentines day? as for the wedding dresses well he wasn't exactly going to go for the £90 dresses was he considering he acts like he was born with dare I say a golden spoon in his mouth. I liked the guy and I don't think he should have gone so early but this week it was he's fault and the wedding dress fiasco wasn't too good either considering he believed in this product and wasn't actually able to sell any. Had it not been for Clair and Lucinda they would have lost the task.
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Old 21-05-2008, 23:39
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Had it not been for Clair and Lucinda they would have lost the task.
Claire would have gone for the £90 dressess which would have caused them to lose. And the fact is that people that both he and claire were selling to in the morning came back later to buy, so he had a hand in those sales without a doubt.
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Old 21-05-2008, 23:42
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It wasn't that Raef performed particularly well, so much as Michael was in the firing line, too, and was saved again. Why? He is an insufferable worm.
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Old 21-05-2008, 23:44
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Claire would have gone for the £90 dressess which would have caused them to lose. And the fact is that people that both he and claire were selling to in the morning came back later to buy, so he had a hand in those sales without a doubt.
I don't think Lucinda (the team leader) would have gone for the £90 dresses. Nick recognised Clair's and Lucinda's hard work, where was Alex's recognition? he didn't do anything so he didn't get any.
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Old 21-05-2008, 23:44
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It wasn't that Raef performed particularly well, so much as Michael was in the firing line, too, and was saved again. Why? He is an insufferable worm.
I think most of us can agree that Raef made some mistakes in this weeks task, in fact the man himself has no problem admitting it, but the fact is that Michael has not done one thing right this whole series. Not one thing. And yet Raef, who hasn't even been in the boardroom since week 1 and has largely been on winning teams goes. That is a disgrace.
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Old 21-05-2008, 23:48
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Michael wasn't the project leader and if a task fails then the PM is in the firing line....literally. I really don't understand all this (mock) outrage; as a businessman Raef had very little to offer apart from some fancy words and a nice line in suits.
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Old 21-05-2008, 23:50
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Michael wasn't the project leader and if a task fails then the PM is in the firing line....literally. I really don't understand all this (mock) outrage; as a businessman Raef had very little to offer apart from some fancy words and a nice line in suits.
I fully agree with you, Raif is no businessman and people need to realise this fact.
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Old 21-05-2008, 23:56
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Sir Alan is worth hundreds of millions of pounds, he doesn't have any desire to make any more money. He now wants a career in the limelight. Contestants like Michael, Claire and Lee get him more viewers and that's what he craves.
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Old 22-05-2008, 00:00
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I fully agree with you, Raif is no businessman and people need to realise this fact.
There is a difference between fact and opinion, in your opinion Raef is no businessman, it does not make it a fact.

Besides which, he is apparently a pretty successful business man already....
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Old 22-05-2008, 01:54
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They never learn do they. Rewarding the baddies and punishing the goodies is not what people want to watch
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Old 22-05-2008, 02:39
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There is a difference between fact and opinion, in your opinion Raef is no businessman, it does not make it a fact.

Besides which, he is apparently a pretty successful business man already....
And there lies the truth of why Raef was fired.

Raef will make it despite SA.

Whereas the others NEED him to get somewhere.

Raef was robbed tonight.

I personally think that Claire or Helene should have gone tonight, .........because their packaging and branding was worst than pathetic, and their backing up of their team leader was even worse


And why SA always protects Michael is totally beyond me, unless he truly was like him in every respect.

MY god, why am I even beginning to try and teach my son any scruples at all is beyond me. I should just tell him to watch that squirmy worm Michael get right through to the finals
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