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Some Zoe thoughts
piper333
22-05-2008
http://blogs.thestage.co.uk/tvtoday/...-a-good-sandy/
Tara should have stayed agaings Keisha

http://blogs.thestage.co.uk/mt/mt-se...IncludeBlogs=3

i am trying to find newer ones, but also according to Zoe this series has a higher standard of talent than HDYSAPLM.

i guess we don't know anything. ha ha
smeagy28
22-05-2008
I read her column in The Stage this morning very briefly (and surreptitiously as I didn't intend to buy it -- oops) and as far as I can remember she says Rachel was vocally fine not outstanding, Sam was daring but average, Jodie's song choice couldn't ever have shown what she was challenged to show but she did OK, and Jessie was all right.

Have I got this right? Apologies if not, I did read it very quickly and my memory isn't what it used to be
I normally find the column entertaining, but thought it was a bit dull and repetitive today
piper333
22-05-2008
Originally Posted by smeagy28:
“I read her column in The Stage this morning very briefly (and surreptitiously as I didn't intend to buy it -- oops) and as far as I can remember she says Rachel was vocally fine not outstanding, Sam was daring but average, Jodie's song choice couldn't ever have shown what she was challenged to show but she did OK, and Jessie was all right.

Have I got this right? Apologies if not, I did read it very quickly and my memory isn't what it used to be
I normally find the column entertaining, but thought it was a bit dull and repetitive today ”

can you link me to the one today or this week... i can't find them all. it just surprises me that all of us think the standard isn't very good this year and yet Zoe thinks is is better than HDYSAPLM. I do agree with her though on some of those Maria girls, I mean what where they thinking? I love Zoe, btw.
Jocko Homo
22-05-2008
Originally Posted by piper333:
“can you link me to the one today or this week... i can't find them all. it just surprises me that all of us think the standard isn't very good this year and yet Zoe thinks is is better than HDYSAPLM. I do agree with her though on some of those Maria girls, I mean what where they thinking? I love Zoe, btw. ”

I think what it is is that the worst Maria's were worse than the worst Nancy's (Simona anyone?) but the final five Maria's were all of a higher standard vocally and generally better allrounder's than the final five Nancy's (with the expection of Siobhan who couldn't act for s***).
piper333
22-05-2008
Originally Posted by Jocko Homo:
“I think what it is is that the worst Maria's were worse than the worst Nancy's (Simona anyone?) but the final five Maria's were all of a higher standard vocally and generally better allrounder's than the final five Nancy's (with the expection of Siobhan who couldn't act for s***).”

Don't get me started on Simona!!!!!!!!!!!! lol - Briony would have progressed at least, how the hell did they think she would learn to not sing in that accent, and I am sorry, but no way no how was she even close to Maria...Evita esque maybe....with work

still need the link to todays or this week column from zoe.

i do take her opinion on board and rate it very highly and she doesn't agree so maybe i have to open my ears some more.
smeagy28
22-05-2008
Don't have links, sorry, I read it in a shop

I think Jocko Homo is right about the worst Nancies being better than the worst Marias. Perhaps we are more discerning now than we were when the format was brand new (kind of) and before we'd enjoyed the delights of ADWD.

It may also be that because Connie was nearly always the front runner we compared the good performances from the Marias to Connie's performances; with no front runner in IDA we've nothing to compare their performances to apart from our own standards. That's probably a long shot but there may be an element of truth in it. I know that personally, because I've got no background or training in MT, I can only judge on what I see and hear, and so my standard for what's good and what's fantastic, fantastic, fantastic is probably quite arbitrary.

This series has REALLY missed Zoe's input. The criteria which JB, DVO and BH uphold is bland by comparison. I know her comments were often limited to their vocal performances but I think a good percentage of the viewing public are laymen in that respect (unlike the majority of DS posters who are experts, not like me --I wish I were!).
Golden anemone
22-05-2008
Originally Posted by piper333:
“Don't get me started on Simona!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

still need the link to todays or this week column from zoe.

i do take her opinion on board and rate it very highly and she doesn't agree so maybe i have to open my ears some more.”

Piper it said somewhere in the Stage that her column would be in the print edition only.
piper333
22-05-2008
thanks guys. I am not in England at the moment, can you fed ex me a copy?

piper333
22-05-2008
Originally Posted by smeagy28:
“Don't have links, sorry, I read it in a shop



This series has REALLY missed Zoe's input. The criteria which JB...”

I will be seeing JB personally as he judges the Canadian version of HDYSAPLM...he's in trouble.
CASPER1066
22-05-2008
Quote:
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Originally Posted by piper333:
“I will be seeing JB personally as he judges the Canadian version of HDYSAPLM...he's in trouble. ”

”

start a book of our comments and give it to him...
CASPER1066
22-05-2008
Quote:
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Originally Posted by piper333:
“thanks guys. I am not in England at the moment, can you fed ex me a copy?

”

”

your not even in Britain either......
piper333
22-05-2008
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“start a book of our comments and give it to him...”

would i be banned if i posted photos here of him there?
CASPER1066
22-05-2008
Quote:
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Originally Posted by piper333:
“would i be banned if i posted photos here of him there? ”

”

yea Id shoot ya..........
piper333
22-05-2008
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“your not even in Britain either......”

well to be fair, we were technically known as a part of Great Britain and were under their rule and still have the Queen on everything.
CASPER1066
22-05-2008
Quote:
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Originally Posted by piper333:
“well to be fair, we were technically known as a part of Great Britain and were under their rule and still have the Queen on everything.”
”

yes I think some parts of Cananda are more British than us.......
ScottMatthewman
23-05-2008
While Zoe's column is in the print edition of The Stage only, next week she and I are recording a podcast discussing the series as a whole and looking forward to the final.

I've put up a preview page where you can post questions or comments you'd like us to discuss.
Last edited by ScottMatthewman : 23-05-2008 at 12:31
piper333
23-05-2008
Originally Posted by ScottMatthewman:
“While Zoe's column is in the print edition of The Stage only, next week she and I are recording a podcast discussing the series as a whole and looking forward to the final.

I've put up a preview page where you can post questions or comments you'd like us to discuss.”

thank you so very much!

I sent Zoe a message on her site and did get a nice reply, possibly from her PA but it was prompt and nice.
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