Although I love Raef and hate the fact her got fired I actually suppor SurAlan's desicion.

I agree that Raef didn't deserve to go and if I had my way Sophocles would of gone BUT we have to remember that SurAlan has to work with these people so if he can't get on with them (for being too handsome, posh or whatever) then there is no point in hiring them.

If he did hire Raef then I doubt it would be a nice experience for him anyway (I am sure some people have worked with a boss who didn't like them and know what I mean)

So I will miss Raef and he didn't deserve to go but neither does SurAlan deserve all the "hate" that he is getting for this desicion.

*goes and hides before things are thrown at me*

I don't think Raef should have been fired over Micheal but an important thing that people seem to forget is that at the end of the day , it is all up to SAS. No-one else is gonna be paying one of those people to work for them and SAS is looking for "his" Apprentice so he must know specifically what he's looking for.

lol...I won't throw things at you.

I except that SAS has the right to hire and fire who he likes, but it doesn't mean I have to support his decisions, that's how I see it....

Anyway , now I actually like not having a firm favourite in the show , as it means I won't be too disappointed in the final whatever happens.

Thank you lol


I thought that too when it first happened then realsied I will be very dissappointed if Sophocles wins!!!!!!

I don't think there's any danger of that happening

I agree with your post. However, I think SAS should have waited till the interview stage and fired him. This would have been a much fairer decision. Raef has certainly contributed more to the tasks than Helene and Michael and I think he deserved to be in the interviews more than them.

Last year when SAS fired Tre in the interview stage, he made it clear that Tre was fired because he doesn't fit into his organisation. I think we would have accept the same reasoning if he said that Raef is not the right person for the the job he has in mind rather than saying that Raef is full of hot air when Michael is in the same boardroom with Raef!!

raef forgot he was selling tissues and thought he was at an audition for film school

speaking nicely, charm, well dressing and laughing in the right places does not a business man make

Out of interest did you read the OP, because you seem to have missed the whole point of it?

And for the record, Raef is already a pretty successful business man in his own right.

no i just wildly came in here and started typing

of course i read the op and i wasnt replying to the OP, i was adding my own opinion about Raef, so how have i missed the point?

I dont know much about Raef and his past, present and future, and i dont care to, just what I have seen on the TV.

Fair enough if he is a pretty successful business man in his own right, maybe his charm does work, but obviously not when trying to sell tissues...

I think that was the root of the problem Raef forgot the product and the required end outcome as he and Michael went off at a tangent.

If Michael had been fired last week or the week before I could have lived with SAS decision to fire Raef but it just seems unfair when that jackass is still on the show.

As PM Raef was in the firing line and it was a choice of him or Michael and unfortunately SAS sees something in Michael so raef didn't have a chance

There is an article about Raef today saying he is a property millionaire due you think maybe SAS got to hear about it and Raef got the boot?

Considering SAS is in the property market maybe he should have thought a bit more about firing Raef, lol

It was hardly a secret. I'm sure it was on his CV and application form at the start of the series.

Does he own two semis in London?

Lol, I read he has several properties valued at over half a million pounds. And another business that turns over a million pounds a year.*

eta: * or valued at over a million pounds? Something like that anyway.

oh i agree the wrong person went, i was stunned shocked and horrified that clown is still there.

I think SAS is looking for someone who will kiss his ass, which is why michael is still in.

.....then why was he applying for a job that paid a paltry 6 figure sum

Sorry to go back to the first series but, Paul Torrsi didn't need the money yet he still applied. Both Ben and James were way over-qualified for the post and so were several others. In the case of Ben I always thought he was relieved to be fired as he felt that the job wasn't what he thought it was going to be. Who knows why any of them apply. In the case of the first series I like to think it because they liked the idea of becoming an Apprentice and think this could also be applied to Raef. After all even if he hadn't liked the job working closely with SAS would open up a whole list of new contacts that he wouldn't have otherwise met.

As an aside, the same question could be asked of Simon. He's the son of a very wealthy business man who no doubt would have found him a place in his company if he wanted one; but, Simon chose to work for SAS.

Because it isn't all about money for some people.

and, simon probably wanted to prove his own worth and didnt want to get a job handed on a plate from daddy

15 minutes of fame then?

because he wanted to work for SAS...

With all due respect that is a load of bullsh!t. Do you think that SAS interviews all his prospective employees using a 12 week televised interview incorporating ridiculous tasks?

As with all the candidates the lure was TV exposure, plain and simple

Hmmm that's probably true for a lot of the people that applied from series 2 onwards, but to say all of them isn't likely to be true. I'm inclined to believe that Raef is one of those people that actually goes on the show because he wanted the job - I didn't care much for Simon last year, but he was clearly of the same view. For me, the ones who want the 15 minutes of fame are easy to pick because they are deliberately controversial.