It has been shown before, remember seeing it, not sure if it was BBLB or the evening C4 show.

Just a thought, I wonder if he only added that part when he realised that he was in the DR and it would probably be shown, the rest of his treatening remarks, which have never made the C4 highlight show, were never followed with "I'm only joking", but seeing as they were made in the very early hours, he probably figured that they would never be seen, a bit like some of Jonny's last year, so didn't feel the need to say i'm only joking after them.

Heeee, Shameron didn't get any votes from our household

The vast majority of people I know couldn't give a monkey's about Big Brother - the few who did watch it loathed Cameron.

Well said astro. I'd like to add my view that to my knowledge the "blue rinse brigade" is not exempt from voting, neither are they banned from watching BB, C4, E4 or from having an opinion. I'm not saying they WERE totally responsible for Cameron's win, but even if they were - they have as much right to vote as anyone else. If the majority of the voters hadn't wanted him to win, then he wouldn't have done - simple as that.

Cameron won because of community support. He didn't quite make 2million votes, that's nothing to his home community.

There are 20,000 people on Orkney, if those people spent £10 each on voting, there's his 2 million votes.

Tourism is up 500% on Orkney because of their local hero, so it's little wonder if they invest in their champion.

You have to ask yourself if you could guarantee a win for your local boy and your immediate community, then £10 is a small price to pay.

The other point I have to say is Cameron going to Africa was his other guarantee for the win, and it looks as if Gaetano has got the win secured in BBSA through his visit to BBUK.

I wonder what the bookies will give you on Gaetano to win?

Yes, more people than voted for Ray. And why was that? Because (apart from all the fixing by Endemol) the texting teenies couldn't make up their minds. How many times did we see on the text ticker "Scott's fit - Scott or Ray to win"? or "Rat's fit - Ray or Scott to win". Only a composite Ray-Scott could have beaten Cameron.

How sad, I think that says a lot about the result, maybe more so than anything else when coupled with this years' general apathy due to the boredom factor.

I have read how certain vicars were urging their parishioners to vote for Cameron as an example to the Christian community, which they apparently did, regardless of whether they watched BB or not.

So you voted for Cameron purely because he is a Christian and so are you..............
Did you watch E4 at all, did you see any of his quite appalling negative traits (and anti-Christian to boot ) ?
I suppose we must overlook these purely because of his religion?
I myself am not religious but would like to think I was brought up with the best of those beliefs / morals if you like.

So how about the Muslims, Jews, Buddhists etc etc - or let's take those from another country as origin - who were they supposed to vote for this year as they were not represented ??Surely that should be irrelevant in any integrated society, maybe they did what I guess most sensible viewers did this year and voted on personality?

I conclude with your post:
"i voted for Cameron because I am a Christian."

So which is it? Endemol, the entire population of Orkney, or the purple rinse brigade?

D'oh it is obvious isn't it, the entire population of Orkney must all have a purple rinse and work for Endemol....then it would fit

Do you know, I think you may have hit the nail on the head!

OMG, I never even realised til now. Maybe I voted for Ray because I am a catholic and my husband is half Irish

Or maybe I just thought he was the most interesting in the house

I voted for Cameron to win (3 times), and i'm under 30, have blonde hair (ie not a purple rinse), and am definitely NOT religious.

*gets out tartan shopping trolley, books appointment for blue rinse and buys a self perm kit with hair 'lacker' not forgetting to empty out purse full of coppers... i don't think...*

...although i did go right off Cameron when he made those reactionary comments.

I was aware he was joking the first time - but after his barbed, vindictive comments about assaulting Jon and later his declaration that he could "suffocate" Nush for doing nothing more than falling over whilst drunk, his remarks have a certain nasty edge.

Besides, what sort of creature would joke about killing someone??

My hair is three shades of red....... I am over 50! ...... I never voted for Cameroon...... my Mum (who is 82 with thick glossy white hair) and only has CH4 thought he was slimy, dull and a two-faced stirrer..... neither could she understand much of what he said...... with his accent and whispered asides......

My mum voted for him, I think. She also likes that nice Michael Barrymore.

I have already remarked on this is another thread.
My brother (who does not watch BB) is a born again Christian and his pastor (who does watch BB) asked his flock to vote for Cameron , telling them that it was their duty to do so. He said that in this day and age it is hard for Chritians to stand up and stick to thier beliefs when they get flack from others or from fera of being ridicule. Cameron had stood up in the face of millions.
He was a virgin and was not afraid to say that one man lying with another man is sinfull - as is the belief held by born again Christians.
My deluded, brother voted for Cam and I suspect many other Chritians were advised to or felt it was their duty to.

Hence the boring, two faced, back stabbing bloke won.

It makes me a bit happier knowing that people were voting for Cameron not because they liked him, because obviously many didn't and didn't even know who he was. Christians voted because most were told to, by their pastors, church etc; even if they had never heard of or watched BB, and did their bidding, baaa, as it is believed Cameron is a christian. Most of Orkney voted Cameron not because they liked him or felt as a person he deserved to win BB on his own merits, but because he hailed from Orkney. Some were told by Graham Norton to keep Cameron in and duly obliged, baaaa. Don't know how many times Julyan voted or used his media connections to secure votes either. Apart from a few on here and quite obviously some bandwagon jumpers, did anyone actually vote Cameron because they liked him. At least Jon has true fan's, as do the other ex hm's. It seems most were right, a sham bb does deserve a sham winner.

Yes I voted for cameron its
a game show he won thats it.

bb5 roll on 2004

I voted for Cameron several times because I found him amusing and interesting to watch. Last time I checked, I had blonde highlights, not a purple rinse, and I was still in my mid-thirties.
But I confess that I also voted once for Ray because I'm Irish and I liked him more than Scott or Steph.

So let me get this straight.

You're asking people on this forum to indicate whether they voted for Cameron or not.

This forum which is:

(1) dominated by a small but vocal minority of individuals who have shouted down any pro-Cameron comments and often abused the contributors over the last few weeks

(2) overrun with conspiracy theorists who beleive Endemol, the press, the Church and Uncle Tom Cobbley all conspired and colluded to fix the final result

(3) dominated by Jon Tickle supporters who cannot accept the fact that Tickle was voted out, and see it as their single goal in life to wreak revenge against the man who beat him in week 4

(4) sliding more into inane drivel as the days go by. Any reasonable, mature debate seem to have gone by the wayside in favour of childlike banter.


With logic likel that, you should try measuring bin Laeden's popularity in the US - that would be a balanced view of world opinion wouldn't it.

I think you'll find if you've actually read all the threads over the nine weeks of BB4, that cuts both ways.


I was under the impression this was a forum to exchange ideas about BB4. No harm in a bit of speculation - and frankly, the editing of the Channel 4 programmes *has* been highly selective.


You're way off beam. Try again.


And you've got something better to bring to the table, have you? Well, let's read it.


And with your abitrary generalisations and obvious distaste for the forum, might I ask why are you still contributing with this negative and frankly specious appraisal as opposed to something more constructive??

I'm on this forum far less than I used to be - as are others I'm sure.

There are still a few gems to be found - such as Svaughan's BB4 story - however the "its a fix" brigade are just simply getting out of hand.

Shame.

I also think recognising the obvious disparity in opinion is constructive.

Far more so than the "Endemol fixed it for Cameron to win" - "Big Brother fixed it for Cam to go to SA" posts that now dominate

If you don't like it, don't read it.

Yes - another pearl of wisdom Ben !!

Why didn't I listen to you earlier

You might have saved yourself a bit of trouble if you had.

Kindly refrain from looking down your nose at forum banter (especially when I suspect that nobody else is really taking all this 100% seriously except you) when you're evidently quite happy to engage in it yourself.