i and my entire family voted for cameron to win because he is a genuine nice man with a great sense of humour and along with ray the only two who had any personality in the house

this forum as we al know is so in love with jon the big head that any other opinions have been shouted down

well its only a few people making the same comments over and over again

cameron THE WINNER and i for one am very happy about that

Why do people always assume that if you did not want Cam to win that u must be a Tickle supporter?
I think if u read the threads you will find that there were and are also Nush, Fed, Scott, Ray and Steph (1) supporters who did not want Cam to win.
Stop showing Tickle and Cam down our throats.
But mind u between the two I would choose Tickle, Cam was just not man enough for me. He just looked like he was still wearing nappies.

Well said. I certainly am not a Jon fan but cannot stand Cameron and would rather anybody else won. ( well maybe not Steph).

Me too, I was voting for Scott and when he came 3rd, I started voting for Ray to win. I was gobsmacked when Cameron won on the basis of who had actually voted for him to win.

Thatys the same as me!!!
I was voting for Scott, then Ray after he come out!
But Cameron won.! Like i said.. i think it was fixed!

I must admit that during the first week, I did think that Jon was a very Eltonesque character come to life!

Seriously, the alternating cynicism and desperation by the producers showcased in both BB3 and 4 seem uncannily predicted in Elton's book. Life imitates art...

Personally, I'm of the opinion that BB1 and 2 were the real deal as far as BB is concerned and both 3 and 4 are almost piss-takingly postmodern in their approach - familiarity breeds contempt.

I can't help thinking that BB5 really will be the final nail in the coffin of this now moribund franchise.

There you are, lilclaire1234, this is who actually voted for Cameron.

20000 x 10 = 200000
200000 x 4 = 800000 (4 votes to the pound)


anyway

the 73 year old mother of my girlfriend calls Cameron a big arsehole . As she doesnt live with us , thats her own opinion. She supported Jon .

dementia kicks in at different ages; obviously

Another over 50 who did not like Cameron. So can we drop the purple rinse comments? In my view the vocal majority of 'born again' type people are under 30. These are the folk that probably voted for Cameron.

This from Ben4321:

Ben4321, I cited the Ben Elton book because it was eerie watching BB4 the first week as I felt I'd already lived it! And I had! In that well observed book of Ben Eltons.
I have to agree about BB1 and 2 being the embodiment of the ostensible idea re BB. Although even as early as BB2 I spotted the signs of a televisual device to rake in lots of money.
What BB1 proved was you didn't need to manufacture discord and consequently must-see soap-like drama.
I think what epitomises BB4 is the cynicism, all round. Endemol/BB Producers denying catergorically there'd be "no bar, no rewards rooms", the maunfactured Cameron facade and the fact that all the footage that would have made us watch avidly has been spliced onto the "££ DVD/VID ££" instead.
Well, sorry but that's too late. Short term gain Endemol. You save the good bits for DVD sales and b*gger up the potential BB5 audience.
That you deplored the thought of a religious person in BB1 (yes, I remember that far back at the auditions) shows me you'd stoop lower than a croc's belly to secure revenue. Shame on you, and that strange chimera half boy/half Jimmy Clitheroe,Cameron.

I agree totally with this. BB2 was self-consciously more "glamorous", stylised and viewer-friendly than the rather stark first series. Paul and Helen's relationship marks the point, I think, where BB began to shift its focus from psychological experiment to more of a "soap opera" feel. Overall, I believe that BB2 did retain enough of the original concept to be worthwhile.

Yes.BB1 was exciting, it was raw, and the first. BB2 (although I have read all about it more than seen it) was the epitome of the concept at its peak.
BB3 was th eintroduction of "ideas" like the bars which crippled it as it was like watching Les Miserables.
BB4 just needed Brian Rix to complete the farce.
If BB1 was 100% and BB2 99% then BB3 was 80% (Jade/Adelle Sandy bitchfest etc) then BB4 was 20%. What rubbish. I am glad this year's winner has the same lack of morals as Endemol. Fitting. A crap program won by a turd.

Lots of people do it every day; never heard anyone say 'I could wring his neck' for example ? Does that mean that they will look that person out & kill him ? Don't think so somehow.

Not very pleasant thought isn't it? And the frequency with which Cameron makes these comments is somewhat disquieting.

They are just figures of speech; people always say things they don't mean. Look at Ray calling Steph a 'f****** bitch'; it was just the drink and now they are mates.

I don't think anyone here could prove that Cam meant what he said; if they did they could report him to the police, because threatening to kill someone is a crime is it not ?

Ray explodes with anger and then it's over. Cameron is cold-hearted and venomous - his bitching about Jon after he'd been evicted and his behaviour towards Lisa are prime examples.

I'm not particularly interested in the exact legalities of Cameron's utterances. All I do know is that I find him thoroughly unpleasant.

& Jon didn't bitch about Cam after he was evicted, when he went back in the house and ever since he finally came out ??

I just think that, apart from Jon (who has an axe to grind), its very revealing that the other housemates all like Cam. As they lived with him for 9 weeks, I think that they are in the best position to judge.

By the way, on BB Diaries tonight Ray was again saying what a nice guy Cam is; Ray being Ray, I'm sure that if he felt differently he would not be afraid to say so.

Considering the way he was bitched about with Cameron declaring he would happily assault him for no good reason, Jon has every right to feel aggrieved.


It basically shows that bullies stick together. All the guys in the house bitched about Jon with the girls joining in just because he is "different". Then they *all* gang up on Lisa - isolating her and treating her in a truly inhumane manner just because she comes into the house and breaks up their little pecking order.

Even when it's all over, Cameron, Ray, Steph and Gos still carry on bitching about Jon and show no remorse over their treatment of Lisa. I don't think yobbish Ray, Steph who is in favour of the death penalty (just a little "lethal injection") or spineless stooge Gos can really be classed as fit to judge anything. Awful people.

maisymoo, ah thanks for that, I really need cheering up and you have just summed up how I feel - I shall be humming "a crap program won by a turd" to keep myself chirpy now.

Frequency??? From what I have seen in these threads there were 3 comments in 9 weeks that seem to have upset the anti-Cam brigade and been exaggerated out of all proportion. Disquieting indeed

Considering the nature of Cameron's remarks, disquieting indeed yes.

You really should think about your posts before you write them. You stated that it was the 'frequency' of the comments that was disquieting. As I said - 3 comments in 9 weeks is hardly 'frequent' and not something to get so worked up about

Well the amplitude does it for me quite nasty they where

That's a bit rich, "Poo Poo", and rather petty. Do you actually have a point - or are you just pedantically picking up on minor points just for the sake of it?

It's not just Cameron's remarks - it's his whole personality that was consistent over the best part of nine weeks. Vile man.

To suggest that people have taken a dislike to Cameron simply because of some admittedly thoroughly nasty remarks is far too simplistic. It's *him* the anti-Cameron camp don't like, not just what he says.

Q: Who voted for Cameron
A: The big majority.

easy really.
I dont know what circles you move in if you dont know anyone who voted for Cam, perhaps if you hang out with teenagers in Comic book shops etc, you might not meet many Cam fans. I personally have a good cross section of friends and most of them at least quite liked Cam, loads of them thought fed was thick, scott dull and jon a smugarse.

Cam was voted for by people who appreciate his 'down to earth' ways, and aren't juvenile enough to be taken in by arrogant big heads, or narrow minded enough to dislike someone simply because they are religious.

CAMERON ROCKS.........................and won!

ps. hardly any old 'blue rinse' people watch big brother, their effect would be minimal.