I haven't liked Alex at all - looks as though he could explode in a temper rage at any moment + appears extremely moody and selfish!
I Can't Bear To Watch Alex Any Longer....!!
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Alex ? Can't understand how he has lasted so long ? He should have gone long ago. It's claimed he is a good salesman. How ? When ? I must have missed that. Being a deeply unpleasant, odious, little twerp - he's very good at that ! Seriously, he has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
His behaviour towards Lucinda can only be described as horrible and ill mannered. He is sly, underhanded and not to be trusted - a real snake. Personally, I wouldn't employ him to clean the toilets.
He's one of those people who looks at others with an expression that seems to say " I don't care what you do or say, I'm better than you. " He sneers at people, smiling falsely, often smirking as if anyone he speaks to is unworthy and beneath him.
What an absolute waste of space. Hope, Sir Alan gets rid of the charmless bonehead before the final.
His behaviour towards Lucinda can only be described as horrible and ill mannered. He is sly, underhanded and not to be trusted - a real snake. Personally, I wouldn't employ him to clean the toilets.
He's one of those people who looks at others with an expression that seems to say " I don't care what you do or say, I'm better than you. " He sneers at people, smiling falsely, often smirking as if anyone he speaks to is unworthy and beneath him.
What an absolute waste of space. Hope, Sir Alan gets rid of the charmless bonehead before the final.
I would never tire of watching Alex - although even I as an Alex fan would have to say that he is lacking in something which I can't quite put my finger on.
verdict - would still do him, but probably wouldn't want to chat afterwards!!!
verdict - would still do him, but probably wouldn't want to chat afterwards!!!
Originally Posted by Makosi's pants:
“Claire would bone Alex in a second. Says it all really
God, please not those two in the final!”
“Claire would bone Alex in a second. Says it all really
God, please not those two in the final!”
She'd eat the guy for breakfast, then spit out the remains during her 11 o'clock coffee.
You can't compare the two. She knows what she's doing, he rides on the coat-tails of whoever is running the team. She carried him for three or four weeks when they were together, now he's having to pull his finger out - but he really hasn't a chance when it comes to the interview stage. I think Lee and Alex (and Helene) will be sharing a final taxi ride home. No interviewer is going to fall for unshaven chins (all three of them) and total bullshit (Cockney, Manc or Wakey). Claire/Lucinda final by the look of things...
'I would do him' get a grip please!!!!
Seeing Alex's simpering, smug, self satisfied face made me want to slap him - HARD!!!!
The treatment of Lucinda said an awful lot about how both Lee and Alex would treat others under their command - and it did not look promising.
Seeing Alex's simpering, smug, self satisfied face made me want to slap him - HARD!!!!
The treatment of Lucinda said an awful lot about how both Lee and Alex would treat others under their command - and it did not look promising.
Originally Posted by missmaisie:
“'I would do him' get a grip please!!!! ”
“'I would do him' get a grip please!!!! ”
lol! I know .. and at my age too!
I love that express "to do someone" - I loved it on X-factor when the welsh girls who Simon Cowell said were like Vicky Pollard said they thought he was rude - but they'd still "do" him in these glorious welsh accents!
Back on topic:
I dont' really get why why people have got such a downer on Alex, he's not THAT bad surely!
Originally Posted by Nugget:
“I dont' really get why why people have got such a downer on Alex, he's not THAT bad surely!”
“I dont' really get why why people have got such a downer on Alex, he's not THAT bad surely!”
nope...his worse than that!
For me, if you go back to the first boardroom you begin to see what a snake Alex is, how he twisted comments made to try and make himself the victim, when he was the one that was actually picking on people during the task. He has Nicholas poor defense of himself that first week in the boardroom to thank for staying in the show. Then you have his negatively in the laundry task, swiftly followed by his disgraceful attitude towards Simon combined with his utter unwillingness to take an responsible at all.
Following that debacle, he spent the next few weeks finding ways to get through tasks without drawing attention to himself while collecting things to use against other team members in the board room. I firmly believe had he been more focused on winning tasks in these weeks he might have been on the winning side more often, but his only interest was in saving his own backside. Even SAS made a point of saying he didn't think Alex had done much.
His project management last week was very poor, he clearly cannot manage people at all (see week one), and it was really more luck than anything that saw them win. He sold a couple of cars this week, but his treatment of Lucinda was awful, even though I do think she handled things badly.
And that is without trying....there are tons more things I could say!
eta: and I can't let his little big man act the week the group attacked Sara go unnoticed...he sits back and waits to see which way the wind is blowing before leaping in to join the attack, albeit in a thoroughly incoherent way.
I absolutely agree with that, he's a weasel !!! I had to play back the bit in the car when LUCINDA !!! suggested the raffle idea, because they both had me doubting it, Lee said he thought it was Alex's idea because when he repeated what Lucinda had said, he used a much stronger voice.
I wanted to reach into the screen and wipe that smug look off his face when it was announced how much he'd contributed to the sales, and that was only because of that last minute lucky sale.
I wanted to reach into the screen and wipe that smug look off his face when it was announced how much he'd contributed to the sales, and that was only because of that last minute lucky sale.
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“If Alex had been PM he would have faded quietly into the background and let the others hang themselves....much as he does every other week...
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“If Alex had been PM he would have faded quietly into the background and let the others hang themselves....much as he does every other week...
”
But he made the biggest rental of the lot even if he did steal Lucinda's idea.
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“nope...his worse than that!
For me, if you go back to the first boardroom you begin to see what a snake Alex is, how he twisted comments made to try and make himself the victim, when he was the one that was actually picking on people during the task. He has Nicholas poor defense of himself that first week in the boardroom to thank for staying in the show. Then you have his negatively in the laundry task, swiftly followed by his disgraceful attitude towards Simon combined with his utter unwillingness to take an responsible at all.
Following that debacle, he spent the next few weeks finding ways to get through tasks without drawing attention to himself while collecting things to use against other team members in the board room. I firmly believe had he been more focused on winning tasks in these weeks he might have been on the winning side more often, but his only interest was in saving his own backside. Even SAS made a point of saying he didn't think Alex had done much.
His project management last week was very poor, he clearly cannot manage people at all (see week one), and it was really more luck than anything that saw them win. He sold a couple of cars this week, but his treatment of Lucinda was awful, even though I do think she handled things badly.
And that is without trying....there are tons more things I could say!
eta: and I can't let his little big man act the week the group attacked Sara go unnoticed...he sits back and waits to see which way the wind is blowing before leaping in to join the attack, albeit in a thoroughly incoherent way.”
“nope...his worse than that!
For me, if you go back to the first boardroom you begin to see what a snake Alex is, how he twisted comments made to try and make himself the victim, when he was the one that was actually picking on people during the task. He has Nicholas poor defense of himself that first week in the boardroom to thank for staying in the show. Then you have his negatively in the laundry task, swiftly followed by his disgraceful attitude towards Simon combined with his utter unwillingness to take an responsible at all.
Following that debacle, he spent the next few weeks finding ways to get through tasks without drawing attention to himself while collecting things to use against other team members in the board room. I firmly believe had he been more focused on winning tasks in these weeks he might have been on the winning side more often, but his only interest was in saving his own backside. Even SAS made a point of saying he didn't think Alex had done much.
His project management last week was very poor, he clearly cannot manage people at all (see week one), and it was really more luck than anything that saw them win. He sold a couple of cars this week, but his treatment of Lucinda was awful, even though I do think she handled things badly.
And that is without trying....there are tons more things I could say!
eta: and I can't let his little big man act the week the group attacked Sara go unnoticed...he sits back and waits to see which way the wind is blowing before leaping in to join the attack, albeit in a thoroughly incoherent way.”
Thanks you've saved me hours of typing
I agree they guy is absolutely p*** poor not because he lacks skills per se but because he is a selfish snide git who would rather sit back, play politics and let others hang themselves rather than postively engage in the tasks. He's the male equivalent of Helene. You wouldn't want to work with either of them.His smirking arrogant attitude is repulsive....anyone who fancies him must be masochistic
(And..... I know this is bit unnecessary but as I'm in rant mode anyway
.....Can someone please tell him just how ridiculous he looks in that coat....worse still with that collar popped up.....like some sad wannabe model/international superstar....His "look" is sooo painfully contrived. He has the appearance of an envious 15 year old sneakily borrowing clothes from his older and much cooler big brother. URGH I was cringing everytime he came on screen. Naffness thy name is Alex.)
Originally Posted by sparkie70:
“But he made the biggest rental of the lot even if he did steal Lucinda's idea.”
“But he made the biggest rental of the lot even if he did steal Lucinda's idea.”
Yes he did, but any brownie points he wins for that he loses for his attitude towards Lucinda...
Originally Posted by sparkie70:
“But he made the biggest rental of the lot even if he did steal Lucinda's idea.”
“But he made the biggest rental of the lot even if he did steal Lucinda's idea.”
That may be so - but would you want to work with or employ someone that steals credit for other peoples ideas, who is then equally happy to lie and manipulate the situation causing friction?
On a one off basis that might not matter... but to have someone like that around is corrosive and can stiffle the overall success of a team.....costing money in the long term.
Originally Posted by kazmson:
“That may be so - but would you want to work with or employ someone that steals credit for other peoples ideas, who is then equally happy to lie and manipulate the situation causing friction?
On a one off basis that might not matter... but to have someone like that around is corrosive and can stiffle the overall success of a team.....costing money in the long term.”
“That may be so - but would you want to work with or employ someone that steals credit for other peoples ideas, who is then equally happy to lie and manipulate the situation causing friction?
On a one off basis that might not matter... but to have someone like that around is corrosive and can stiffle the overall success of a team.....costing money in the long term.”
And that's the thing, his primary goal seemed to be more about alienating Lucinda, thus setting her up to be fired, than to actually sell anything, so in reality, in spite of making a couple of sales, he was still largely in the role of trying to engineer it so someone else hung themselves.
Originally Posted by Dave Javue:
“She'd eat the guy for breakfast, then spit out the remains during her 11 o'clock coffee.
You can't compare the two. She knows what she's doing, he rides on the coat-tails of whoever is running the team. She carried him for three or four weeks when they were together, now he's having to pull his finger out - but he really hasn't a chance when it comes to the interview stage. I think Lee and Alex (and Helene) will be sharing a final taxi ride home. No interviewer is going to fall for unshaven chins (all three of them) and total bullshit (Cockney, Manc or Wakey). Claire/Lucinda final by the look of things...”
“She'd eat the guy for breakfast, then spit out the remains during her 11 o'clock coffee.
You can't compare the two. She knows what she's doing, he rides on the coat-tails of whoever is running the team. She carried him for three or four weeks when they were together, now he's having to pull his finger out - but he really hasn't a chance when it comes to the interview stage. I think Lee and Alex (and Helene) will be sharing a final taxi ride home. No interviewer is going to fall for unshaven chins (all three of them) and total bullshit (Cockney, Manc or Wakey). Claire/Lucinda final by the look of things...”
Totally devoid of reality.
Claire barely has the neural capacity of a seaslug. She is just a chav with attitude. Alex will demolish her.
Originally Posted by Vivid:
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Claire barely has the neural capacity of a seaslug. She is just a chav with attitude. Alex will demolish her.”
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Claire barely has the neural capacity of a seaslug. She is just a chav with attitude. Alex will demolish her.”
Alex couldn't demolish a stack of sugar cubes...
Give me an example of Alex successfully demolishing anyone?
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“nope...his worse than that!
For me, if you go back to the first boardroom you begin to see what a snake Alex is, how he twisted comments made to try and make himself the victim, when he was the one that was actually picking on people during the task. He has Nicholas poor defense of himself that first week in the boardroom to thank for staying in the show. Then you have his negatively in the laundry task, swiftly followed by his disgraceful attitude towards Simon combined with his utter unwillingness to take an responsible at all.
Following that debacle, he spent the next few weeks finding ways to get through tasks without drawing attention to himself while collecting things to use against other team members in the board room. I firmly believe had he been more focused on winning tasks in these weeks he might have been on the winning side more often, but his only interest was in saving his own backside. Even SAS made a point of saying he didn't think Alex had done much.
His project management last week was very poor, he clearly cannot manage people at all (see week one), and it was really more luck than anything that saw them win. He sold a couple of cars this week, but his treatment of Lucinda was awful, even though I do think she handled things badly.
And that is without trying....there are tons more things I could say!
eta: and I can't let his little big man act the week the group attacked Sara go unnoticed...he sits back and waits to see which way the wind is blowing before leaping in to join the attack, albeit in a thoroughly incoherent way.”
“nope...his worse than that!
For me, if you go back to the first boardroom you begin to see what a snake Alex is, how he twisted comments made to try and make himself the victim, when he was the one that was actually picking on people during the task. He has Nicholas poor defense of himself that first week in the boardroom to thank for staying in the show. Then you have his negatively in the laundry task, swiftly followed by his disgraceful attitude towards Simon combined with his utter unwillingness to take an responsible at all.
Following that debacle, he spent the next few weeks finding ways to get through tasks without drawing attention to himself while collecting things to use against other team members in the board room. I firmly believe had he been more focused on winning tasks in these weeks he might have been on the winning side more often, but his only interest was in saving his own backside. Even SAS made a point of saying he didn't think Alex had done much.
His project management last week was very poor, he clearly cannot manage people at all (see week one), and it was really more luck than anything that saw them win. He sold a couple of cars this week, but his treatment of Lucinda was awful, even though I do think she handled things badly.
And that is without trying....there are tons more things I could say!
eta: and I can't let his little big man act the week the group attacked Sara go unnoticed...he sits back and waits to see which way the wind is blowing before leaping in to join the attack, albeit in a thoroughly incoherent way.”
Totally detached from reality.
You clearly don't appreciate someone who is quite capable and does not attention-seek. Alex avoids unnecessary confrontation and you erroneously perceive this as staying in the background.
I don't think you are perceiving half of what is going on.
Alex is clearly the most professional and capable candidate left.
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“Alex couldn't demolish a stack of sugar cubes...
Give me an example of Alex successfully demolishing anyone?”
“Alex couldn't demolish a stack of sugar cubes...
Give me an example of Alex successfully demolishing anyone?
”
Alex will demolish the dim-witted chav simply on performance, and in the boardroom a basic grasp of English, logic and debating skills is more than enough to overwhelm the neuron-free creature from a swamp in Essex.
Originally Posted by Vivid:
“Totally detached from reality.
You clearly don't appreciate someone who is quite capable and does not attention-seek. Alex avoids unnecessary confrontation and you erroneously perceive this as staying in the background.
I don't think you are perceiving half of what is going on.
Alex is clearly the most professional and capable candidate left.”
“Totally detached from reality.
You clearly don't appreciate someone who is quite capable and does not attention-seek. Alex avoids unnecessary confrontation and you erroneously perceive this as staying in the background.
I don't think you are perceiving half of what is going on.
Alex is clearly the most professional and capable candidate left.”
I perceive plenty thanks, and my post is certainly not detached from reality. Is that the best you can do in his defence? Make vague comments that don't really mean anything?
Originally Posted by Vivid:
“Alex will demolish the dim-witted chav simply on performance, and in the boardroom a basic grasp of English, logic and debating skills is more than enough to overwhelm the neuron-free creature from a swamp in Essex.”
“Alex will demolish the dim-witted chav simply on performance, and in the boardroom a basic grasp of English, logic and debating skills is more than enough to overwhelm the neuron-free creature from a swamp in Essex.”
This is the Alex who said to Raef (and I quote):
'It's my opinion and if I wanna ask her my opinion....'
lol...the guy can barely speak coherently on a good day!!
I think Claire is actually far more articulate than Alex, for all her faults.
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“And that's the thing, his primary goal seemed to be more about alienating Lucinda, thus setting her up to be fired, than to actually sell anything, so in reality, in spite of making a couple of sales, he was still largely in the role of trying to engineer it so someone else hung themselves.”
“And that's the thing, his primary goal seemed to be more about alienating Lucinda, thus setting her up to be fired, than to actually sell anything, so in reality, in spite of making a couple of sales, he was still largely in the role of trying to engineer it so someone else hung themselves.”
I know it's so sleazy.....I mean who came up with the idea didn't matter really in the scheme of things - except as a means of creating friction....For Lucinda it was obviously a matter of having her imput recognized but for Alex the motivation wasn't innocent....But Lee is stupid to. It was obvious Lucinda was going to be the weak link in terms of selling....so how to you manage that.... uugh.....Oh I don't know maybe just send her off alone. I mean seriously WTF ?? That's moronic people management.
You know it was great to see Ruth on You've Been Fired.
It reminded that previously, most candidates were keen to actively & postively demonstrate their skills....not this bunch.
Far too many of this year's gang are - to borrow Michael's phrase - "dumb dumbs" with very little business nous but extremely slick at covering their own arses.
A skill indeed but not a very admirable one in the long term.
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“I perceive plenty thanks, and my post is certainly not detached from reality. Is that the best you can do in his defence? Make vague comments that don't really mean anything?”
“I perceive plenty thanks, and my post is certainly not detached from reality. Is that the best you can do in his defence? Make vague comments that don't really mean anything?”
Nothing in your large post above actually contains any substance, so I didn't see there was anything to counter.
I get the impression that you haven't been in any project team because your analysis of Alex's attitude is so directly contrary to reality it is difficult to know where to begin to correct you.
You don't seem to recognise the professional approach to being a team member and team leader. ( And you can't spell "defence" unless you are from the colonies )
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“This is the Alex who said to Raef (and I quote):
'It's my opinion and if I wanna ask her my opinion....'
lol...the guy can barely speak coherently on a good day!!
I think Claire is actually far more articulate than Alex, for all her faults.”
“This is the Alex who said to Raef (and I quote):
'It's my opinion and if I wanna ask her my opinion....'
lol...the guy can barely speak coherently on a good day!!
I think Claire is actually far more articulate than Alex, for all her faults.”
Well if you really believe that Claire is more articulate than Alex that simply confirms that your perceptive abilities are totally flawed.
Claire exhibits the debating skills from the playground, she doesn't focus on the relevant and she can't express herself. She deploys the same approach that all intellectually-stunted people do and simply express how they feel and on petty irrelevant issues, and wander off at tangents. There is a lot of noise and no content.
Originally Posted by kazmson:
“That may be so - but would you want to work with or employ someone that steals credit for other peoples ideas, who is then equally happy to lie and manipulate the situation causing friction?
On a one off basis that might not matter... but to have someone like that around is corrosive and can stiffle the overall success of a team.....costing money in the long term.”
“That may be so - but would you want to work with or employ someone that steals credit for other peoples ideas, who is then equally happy to lie and manipulate the situation causing friction?
On a one off basis that might not matter... but to have someone like that around is corrosive and can stiffle the overall success of a team.....costing money in the long term.”
So lets say Alpha were the losing team this week and you had to decide who to fire not seeing the film.
Would you sacked Alex even if he had made the most rental?
Lee who did not hold Lucinda's hand?
Originally Posted by sparkie70:
“So lets say Alpha were the losing team this week and you had to decide who to fire not seeing the film.
Would you sacked Alex even if he had made the most rental?
Lee who did not hold Lucinda's hand?”
“So lets say Alpha were the losing team this week and you had to decide who to fire not seeing the film.
Would you sacked Alex even if he had made the most rental?
Lee who did not hold Lucinda's hand?”
I think realistically Lucinda would have got the chop in that senario.... but based on the tasks overall....I'd have got rid of Alex, sorry, probably not fair but I really can't imagine ever wanting to have him work for or with me.
Maybe he's different in a real working environment but I can't imagine him inspiring anyone to their best.
Lee and Lucinda have won tasks as PM and while both have their faults..... I can see more postives in them than I can in Alex.
Originally Posted by Vivid:
“I get the impression that you haven't been in any project team because your analysis of Alex's attitude is so directly contrary to reality it is difficult to know where to begin to correct you.
You don't seem to recognise the professional approach to being a team member and team leader. ( And you can't spell "defence" unless you are from the colonies )”
“I get the impression that you haven't been in any project team because your analysis of Alex's attitude is so directly contrary to reality it is difficult to know where to begin to correct you.
You don't seem to recognise the professional approach to being a team member and team leader. ( And you can't spell "defence" unless you are from the colonies )”
I am at least able to give examples of behaviour I have observed, unlike yourself who sticks to making personal attacks on people, rather like Alex himself does...
As for my spelling, I am rather severely dyslexic, so you'll have to excuse the odd spelling error.
Oh and for the record, I have actually managed a fairly large staff team in the recent past....
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