It'll soon be irrelevant because we will be the ones doing " the letting go ", of all of them

Ive just joined so I can get banned for laughing at you, you total MUG!!! Do you enjoy sitting there and making statements that you dont believe? Just learn to accept that although you are free to have whatever thoughts on people that you want, you cant make up things that didnt happen and cant pretend that certain events mean certain things. YOU DO KNOW THAT JON IS BACK AT WORK FROM THE 11TH DONT YOU????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, You know something.......YOU ARE WRONG!!!!! The guy is so totally not a natural for tv work!!! He can hardly string an intelligent sentance together and what the f*ck does a 'good looking irish guy' have to do with getting a job?

Since they all left the hse for the final time, Jon has only ever mentioned Cameron in direct reply to a question concerning 'Cameron'. Ray on the other hand, winges about Jon for no apparent reason and brings his name up whenever the mood takes him.

I'd say that makes Ray worse than Jon.

Well, to be fair (again lol) Jon has brought up Cameron even though he wasn't asked a Cameron-specific question. Early last week on RI:SE, with Jon, Ray, Scott and Nush on the sofa, Jon was asked if he was disappointed that Scott didn't win. Now, he could have just said, 'yes i am/was', or 'or no I'm not'. Instead he proceeded to give details of how Steph "won" BB for Cameron.

I'm not saying he didn't have the right to air his views, just pointing out that Jon isn't beyond making unprovoked barbed comments about other HMs either.

Ok, read what you just said. Quick question though...........exactly how is that a barbed comment? Did you make a mistake, or are you clutching at straws?

I didn't make a mistake and no I'm not clutching at straws. Jon's theory isn't exactly pro-Cam is it? I think it's a barbed comment because he's clearly not happy that Cameron won and is implying through his theory that Cameron needed "help" to win BB. However, anyone who looked up the % by which Cameron won would see that Jon's theory is flawed at best. So yeah, considering the question asked of him in that instance made no reference to Cameron, I do think it was a barbed comment. And?

I'm neither a Jon fan nor a Cameron fan, in fact I'm quite indifferent to both men as hey did nothing for me while they were in the house. I certainly have no interest in defending one against the other now that they're out of the house. I'm merely pointing out that Jon isn't an innocent bystander in the Jon v Cam debate as he's sometimes made out to be. So I'm not exactly sure why you'd assume that I was clutching at straws.

I think Ray redeemed himself for me with his comments about Jon tonight - totally didn't see that coming, just shows how Channel 4 editing can fool some of the people most of the time...

What did he say tonight? I missed the show.

Just a reminder... tonight it's the last opportunity to watch the BB Diaries.. Friday (today) 23:00 E4

Thank goodness they're over...... or so I thought. As the credits rolled I'm sure I heard Marcus say something about a final show tomorrow afternoon. It's in the Radio Times, but wouldn't this just be a repeat of today's diaries? Today's programme seemed pretty final to me, with both Ray and Cameron saying goodbye and thanking their fans. (No sign of Gos this time!)

Perhaps you can let me know, tamara. I've recorded this week's for a friend who's coming to collect the tape tomorrow morning, so I'll be in trouble if I miss one! Thanks.

blimey.. tomorrow there are lots of BB diaries..

Saturday (today) 14:35 E4
Big Brother Diaries
30 mins

This programme will be broadcast later

Saturday (today)
16:55 E4
23:15 E4

There is another entry..
6.00pm - 6.30pm Big Brother Diaries

I checked this at Ananova TV listings and most of the time they are pretty accurate

Is that the bottom of the barrel I hear being scraped?

Thanks, Tamara. The programme today seems to be a compilation of the week. So it really is over.

But what was that I heard Cameron say? "Coming back to London in a couple of weeks"? Oh no.......

When Tommy from Teen BB was taken to London to evade the media attention, Endermol thought it would be a good idea to have Ray there to deflect the attention away from Tommy, unfortunatley they ignored Ray and were not interested.