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is it unfair that Simon Cowell is showing so much favourtism to Faryl Smith
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dave6666
28-05-2008
Originally Posted by magu21189:
“if she is such a great talent then surely she would be a hit on you tube but there is way more popular acts on you tube..and the boy singers are better because there is plenty of girls like her but there is not much young boys with such outstanding voices...i would love to see her get to final but i think there is more worthy winners than her...”

I partially agree with your comment. I don't think Youtube hits is a particularly good guide to how talented an act is, but it probably hints at their popularity to a certain extent.

So for example, amongst the people who watch BGT, I'm not sure Faryl is more popular than an act like Signature for instance, but I do believe she is more talented.
Holly Oaks
28-05-2008
Originally Posted by SapphicGrrl:
“I just think that Simon C says and does exactly what he wants, and doesn't give a damn what anyone else thinks - which is fair enough. He really likes Faryl, he's coaching her - she's going to have a career whether she wins this or not.

(I have to say though, when I first saw Faryl, I thought she looked about 30, not 12! Was anyone else really surprised at how old she looked, or is it just me?!)”

I thought she was definitely in her teens, 14 or 15 at least!
_Zd_Phoenix_
28-05-2008
Originally Posted by Vennegoor:
“Can't see him beating Faryl.”

It would have to be something spectacular ... singers are always better received (hence Charlie and that theatre guy doing well despite not being first class singers).
<Glen>
28-05-2008
Has this "secret vocal coaching of Faryl" topic been confirmed in the paper or something?

The Sun?
fab cesc
28-05-2008
Originally Posted by magu21189:
“wel obviously you didnt understand them because they said out of the ones so far they want him to win but Simon still mentions how the best is yet to come”

My mistake if they did say that, i turned over so i might have missed something
Fudd
28-05-2008
They should just rename the show: Britain's Got Opera Singers.

The watch as all the opera critics swarm in saying how it isn't 'real' opera.
Vennegoor
28-05-2008
Originally Posted by _Zd_Phoenix_:
“It would have to be something spectacular ... singers are always better received (hence Charlie and that theatre guy doing well despite not being first class singers).”

Agreed, but I think Faryl is though.
C14E
28-05-2008
Originally Posted by Vennegoor:
“Potts shifted 2m albums in the UK alone.”

His eventual UK sales were about 400,000 I think. Worldwide sales came close to 2m. He was undeniably successful and I must admit I was amazed at just how well he was received around the world. Simon undoubtedly made a sizeable sum on that album which is the second most successful UK RTV album behind Leona.

But Got Talent is one of the most successful franchises in the world and now shown in more than 20 countries (growing all the time) and a hit in nearly every key market (which X Factor never managed). It can generate money for years to come and ITV are paying £1 million an episode for it this year. X Factor takes £7 million from the Carphone Warehouse deal alone.

I'm not denying that the music side is a good earner when they get it to work, but the actual show is the priority. He didn't need to sort out AGT2 to get a singer to win and the ventriloquist isn't signed to Syco.
utoia2007
28-05-2008
Originally Posted by Beer:
“She's untouchable and I don't think it matters if there is favouritism there or not because if there wasn't and he was honest, he would say she is amazing anyway because she is.”

I agree, and hes saved the best two, scala and farly till last.

Faryl is amazing and im not bothered if he favors her, must people favor someone.
SapphicGrrl
28-05-2008
Originally Posted by <Glen>:
“Has this "secret vocal coaching of Faryl" topic been confirmed in the paper or something?

The Sun? ”

The Mirror actually, lol. Also, the betting firms are so certain she's going to win, they've stopped taking bets on her - I wonder if that's happened before?
C14E
28-05-2008
Saw some rehearsal footage on BGMT. She sounded good again and she's singing "Angel". Judging from that song choice, the only slot for her is to go last and Simon likes the song (he chose it as the lead single for his child version of Il Divo).

He was really bigging up George tonight, though. I'll be interested to see his reaction to Scala, because he really liked them at the auditions.
_Zd_Phoenix_
28-05-2008
Originally Posted by Vennegoor:
“Agreed, but I think Faryl is though.”

Perhaps - I guess we'll find out. Certainly she has more potential than the choirboy (for obvious reasons). Im surprised you're backing her though, I would have thought you might want something markedly different from last year.
Vennegoor
28-05-2008
Originally Posted by _Zd_Phoenix_:
“Perhaps - I guess we'll find out. Certainly she has more potential than the choirboy (for obvious reasons). Im surprised you're backing her though, I would have thought you might want something markedly different from last year.”

I like real talent being discovered. I think the girl has huge potential.
utoia2007
28-05-2008
Originally Posted by Vennegoor:
“I like real talent being discovered. I think the girl has huge potential.”

same here, she has real raw talent
Beer
28-05-2008
Originally Posted by Vennegoor:
“Simon's right. Both Faryl and Scala have more potential than George.”

I'm not sure about Scala.

If they didn't have the legs and short dresses, wouldn't they just be another string quartet in a town center playing for pennies?
Vennegoor
28-05-2008
Originally Posted by Beer:
“I'm not sure about Scala.

If they didn't have the legs and short dresses, wouldn't they just be another string quartet in a town center playing for pennies?”

If Strike didn't have pecs, etc...........
Beer
28-05-2008
Originally Posted by Vennegoor:
“If Strike didn't have pecs, etc...........”

Touche.

There you go.
XIV
30-05-2008
Originally Posted by moneybags:
“I don't think she is that good to be honest.”

Obviously you are entitled to your opinion but I heard that young girl sing when she was about 10 years old, at her primary school and it silenced everybody in the hall, no big stage or fancy backing music just that small girl with the big voice an amazing voice, it may not be to everyones liking but how many other 12 year olds do you know who can sing that beautifully and remember she is only 12,

a lot of people in groups cant sing that well the recording studios make them sound good and some cant sing live, but Faryl is a natural she can sing with out all the help of studios i am proud to say ive had the pleasure of hearing her sing in her school and its something that will stay with me forever.
pinkfish
30-05-2008
faryl +Simon = £££££££££ that's all he sees
InsideSoap
30-05-2008
He's entitled to have his favourite just like the rest of us. I like Faryl but don't want to see her win. She's obviously got the potential but I wouldn't be happy if another opera singer won, as good as she is. She'll be signed up and have a successful career (maybe) even without winning.
TMOUllrich
30-05-2008
This whole thing is a bit of a swizz really - I don't feel that singing (opera whatever it is) is a talent at all. You're either good at it or you're not.

Acts such as magic/juggling/comedy/dancing everyone can have a go at and practice and put in a lot of effort to get better. (Im not saying singers don't put in a lot of practice because I'm sure they do) but you're either born with it or not IMO which is why I think it's a bit unfair to allow them into BGT. They do after all have TXF. In nearly all other acts it takes talent to do what they are doing.

Therefore while I accept that she is talented in her feild she was born with most of the talent wheras other acts have to start from scratch. An act like Signiture has spent years on thier act (ever since that guy was a kid he was dnacing in his bedroom) yet the fact that Farly and the other boy opera singer (connie from last year aswell) can come along at such a young age and be so supposedly good shows to me that singing is a talent you're born with or not and well it'll be a bit of swizz if she wins.

I'm in the extreme minority (I know) when I say this but Farlys' act was boring and for me was the worst act of the night. From a show like this I want something entertaining - something that makes me smile ... acts like Farly don't do it for me and I'm very pissed off at Simon for hyping up some acts over others. I nearly smashed by telly in when after Potts' final performance alst year in the final Simon says that he should definetly win and it would be a travesty if he did not (something along those lines- don't quote me ). It is extremely very much so unfair on the other acts and I expect makes them very embarrassed.

I'm sorry but I just had to get that off my chest but if Simon says anything like that this year (dare I say he already has tihs semi about faryl) I will boycot the show. I've had enough of him and the producers antics of doing stuff like this. Putting people like Star wars keyboard guy through just to be laughed at and basically acting as a puppet master for the acts I find quite disgusting.

This year I want someone talented to win.

Though I doubt it will happen.
pinkfish
30-05-2008
Originally Posted by TMOUllrich:
“This whole thing is a bit of a swizz really - I don't feel that singing (opera whatever it is) is a talent at all. You're either good at it or you're not.

Acts such as magic/juggling/comedy/dancing everyone can have a go at and practice and put in a lot of effort to get better. (Im not saying singers don't put in a lot of practice because I'm sure they do) but you're either born with it or not IMO which is why I think it's a bit unfair to allow them into BGT. They do after all have TXF. In nearly all other acts it takes talent to do what they are doing.

Therefore while I accept that she is talented in her feild she was born with most of the talent wheras other acts have to start from scratch. An act like Signiture has spent years on thier act (ever since that guy was a kid he was dnacing in his bedroom) yet the fact that Farly and the other boy opera singer (connie from last year aswell) can come along at such a young age and be so supposedly good shows to me that singing is a talent you're born with or not and well it'll be a bit of swizz if she wins.

I'm in the extreme minority (I know) when I say this but Farlys' act was boring and for me was the worst act of the night. From a show like this I want something entertaining - something that makes me smile ... acts like Farly don't do it for me and I'm very pissed off at Simon for hyping up some acts over others. I nearly smashed by telly in when after Potts' final performance alst year in the final Simon says that he should definetly win and it would be a travesty if he did not (something along those lines- don't quote me ). It is extremely very much so unfair on the other acts and I expect makes them very embarrassed.

I'm sorry but I just had to get that off my chest but if Simon says anything like that this year (dare I say he already has tihs semi about faryl) I will boycot the show. I've had enough of him and the producers antics of doing stuff like this. Putting people like Star wars keyboard guy through just to be laughed at and basically acting as a puppet master for the acts I find quite disgusting.

This year I want someone talented to win.

Though I doubt it will happen.”

getting a nation behind you is a talent , getting the hairs on the back of your neck standing up is a talent and NOT resorting to sympathy tactics

Faryl is amazing , I'm a scouser who has rarely seen any opera but I am not a philistine I appreciate something that wows me, and she did , she is humble and not going on on about "her" problems as a 12 year old.
maybe if everyone thinks as you do then she wont win , because its the viewers vote that counts
a dance troop will never win although I hope someone CLAMPS the cameraman to forward stage position when nemesis are on
pinkfish
30-05-2008
Originally Posted by C14E:
“His eventual UK sales were about 400,000 I think. Worldwide sales came close to 2m. He was undeniably successful and I must admit I was amazed at just how well he was received around the world. Simon undoubtedly made a sizeable sum on that album which is the second most successful UK RTV album behind Leona.

But Got Talent is one of the most successful franchises in the world and now shown in more than 20 countries (growing all the time) and a hit in nearly every key market (which X Factor never managed). It can generate money for years to come and ITV are paying £1 million an episode for it this year. X Factor takes £7 million from the Carphone Warehouse deal alone.

I'm not denying that the music side is a good earner when they get it to work, but the actual show is the priority. He didn't need to sort out AGT2 to get a singer to win and the ventriloquist isn't signed to Syco.”

Terry Fator what an act!! oops did I spoil it nope watch he is great and I aint seen the show yet only a few You Tube bits so .... well I hope Terry won but who knows
OlgaChristie
30-05-2008
Originally Posted by TMOUllrich:
“This whole thing is a bit of a swizz really - I don't feel that singing (opera whatever it is) is a talent at all. You're either good at it or you're not.

Acts such as magic/juggling/comedy/dancing everyone can have a go at and practice and put in a lot of effort to get better. (Im not saying singers don't put in a lot of practice because I'm sure they do) but you're either born with it or not IMO which is why I think it's a bit unfair to allow them into BGT. They do after all have TXF. In nearly all other acts it takes talent to do what they are doing.

Therefore while I accept that she is talented in her feild she was born with most of the talent wheras other acts have to start from scratch. An act like Signiture has spent years on thier act (ever since that guy was a kid he was dnacing in his bedroom) yet the fact that Farly and the other boy opera singer (connie from last year aswell) can come along at such a young age and be so supposedly good shows to me that singing is a talent you're born with or not and well it'll be a bit of swizz if she wins.

I'm in the extreme minority (I know) when I say this but Farlys' act was boring and for me was the worst act of the night. From a show like this I want something entertaining - something that makes me smile ... acts like Farly don't do it for me and I'm very pissed off at Simon for hyping up some acts over others. I nearly smashed by telly in when after Potts' final performance alst year in the final Simon says that he should definetly win and it would be a travesty if he did not (something along those lines- don't quote me ). It is extremely very much so unfair on the other acts and I expect makes them very embarrassed.

I'm sorry but I just had to get that off my chest but if Simon says anything like that this year (dare I say he already has tihs semi about faryl) I will boycot the show. I've had enough of him and the producers antics of doing stuff like this. Putting people like Star wars keyboard guy through just to be laughed at and basically acting as a puppet master for the acts I find quite disgusting.

This year I want someone talented to win.

Though I doubt it will happen.”


I`m amazed that you could think that singing opera is not a talent but someone doing a Michael Jackson tribute act is
MrsSpoon
30-05-2008
Yes, I agree with Simon. Faryl is a unique talent but this is a contest and Simon has already singled her out as the winner. She went on in last place which seems to be the memorable position that he is putting all his favourite acts into the competition.
Actually, I couldn't understand a word she sung and I didn't know the song. Did Faryl get any stick for that? No.
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