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Old 29-05-2008, 17:50
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With all due respect that is just hearsay and second hand at that. I daresay there are plenty of people who've met me who would say I was ______ (any number of adjectives you'd care to put in the space!!) Someone else who was at the same event might have found him charming. Some people mistake confidence for cockiness, others might see cockiness as confidence. Its all a matter of perception.
Exactly. I am a cynic by nature and picked up on that comment - my immediate thought was the friend a competitor? The friend or family of a competitor? And as to why was he late? What exactly does "was somewhere else at the time" mean? Was he deliberately acting the prima donna (as the wording might suggest) or was there a good reason for the delay?
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Old 29-05-2008, 17:53
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I think the boys incredible, and really hope he wins. He is a such a talented dancer, but I think he needs to work on his choreography.
BUT ALL HE DOES IS JUST WAVE HIS ARMS ABOUT IN A SHOWER.

Sorry for screaming but it appear to be necessary as you have just disregarded every post, addressed absolutely nothing and just use this thread as an appreciation thread which it is not.

How old are you?

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Old 29-05-2008, 17:59
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So basically if you are a teenager or hysterical mother then you wet your pants over this kid who just waves his arms about in a shower.

If not then you are someone who can see that there is just no talent there.

I'm not a huge fan of his but I don't think you can say that. He definitely has talent whether it's to your taste or not. I'm sure there are plenty of people who liked him that weren't a teenager or a hysterical mother.
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Old 29-05-2008, 17:59
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That's my point - I imagine they had a gymnast to do the tumbling part.

However, like you I would have preferred to see George just dancing as I want to see his moves. The rain obscured that , But I imagine the pressure to come up with something different and spectacular is huge.
Yes, I just watched the repeat and there's a bit in the middle where he's doing some decent body popping. Not the best you'd see around, but good.
But by the time he's under the rain he's not good.
If you watch it again he's so exhausted that he's stumbling all over the place and looks like he's going to fall over.

If this was a song that Simon was judging, and it was an act he didn't care one way or the other about, he'd be honest and say something like started off well but then lost it a bit, or the first few notes were off key but you held it together near the end.
If the judges were honest they'd say that he completely fell apart under the waterfall.

I believe that he's capable, and is quite talented, but when he was under the water he fell apart into a mess and looked like he was going to fall over from complete exhaustion.

Compare him to another act 'Strike' they were completely together and were consistently excellent throughout the entirety of their performance.

I do look forward to seeing what he does in his next performance though, just focusing on him and a routine.
But I have to be honest in that I felt his performance last night was very patchy, good bit in the middle, and at the end was bad.
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Old 29-05-2008, 18:01
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BUT ALL HE DOES IS JUST WAVE HIS ARMS ABOUT IN A SHOWER.

Sorry for screaming but it appear to be necessary as you have just disregarded every post, addressed absolutely nothing and just use this thread as an appreciation thread which it is not.

How old are you?

You obviously didn't see his audition then, because there was no shower during his audition.
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Old 29-05-2008, 18:05
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Yes, I just watched the repeat and there's a bit in the middle where he's doing some decent body popping. Not the best you'd see around, but good.
But by the time he's under the rain he's not good.
If you watch it again he's so exhausted that he's stumbling all over the place and looks like he's going to fall over.

If this was a song that Simon was judging, and it was an act he didn't care one way or the other about, he'd be honest and say something like started off well but then lost it a bit, or the first few notes were off key but you held it together near the end.
If the judges were honest they'd say that he completely fell apart under the waterfall.

I believe that he's capable, and is quite talented, but when he was under the water he fell apart into a mess and looked like he was going to fall over from complete exhaustion.

Compare him to another act 'Strike' they were completely together and were consistently excellent throughout the entirety of their performance.
I agree to an extent though the camera work didn't help. If it had stayed on him instead of jumping about we might have had a less frenetic impression. I mean George was jumping about and the cameras were jumping about and were a little bit to far away when he was under the water I thought. I hope he stays on dry land in the final!
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Old 29-05-2008, 18:07
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BUT ALL HE DOES IS JUST WAVE HIS ARMS ABOUT IN A SHOWER.

Sorry for screaming but it appear to be necessary as you have just disregarded every post, addressed absolutely nothing and just use this thread as an appreciation thread which it is not.

How old are you?

The poster is entitled to their opinion as are you, obviously they dont agree with the OP who is stating that 'they dont get George'.
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Old 29-05-2008, 18:10
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A very good friend of mine met George last year at the festival4stars comp which he won. She said he is a fantastic dancer but this whole face pulling can't believe it thing is sooo not him. She said he is cocky and very big headed and kept the whole comp waiting last year for 20 minutes as he was somewhere else at the time!
I've met George not once but numerous times dancing in Manchester and Liverpool and is without a doubt one of the nicest, humble and at times endearing people I've ever met.
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Old 29-05-2008, 18:42
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The poster is entitled to their opinion as are you, obviously they dont agree with the OP who is stating that 'they dont get George'.
So why bother posting to tell me that?

According to YOU I am entitled to my opinion so why comment further?

Talk about found out! I mean where is your post to the other poster telling them that they are entitled to their opinion?

The age range on here is really not very high is it?
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Old 29-05-2008, 18:47
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You obviously didn't see his audition then, because there was no shower during his audition.
That sounds just like teenage nit-picking.

You have no argument and nothing to say so you pick on one word to try and disprove everything else because someone has dared to question you teen idol.

If you are not a teen, I'd be even more worried.
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Old 29-05-2008, 18:55
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That sounds just like teenage nit-picking.

You have no argument and nothing to say so you pick on one word to try and disprove everything else because someone has dared to question you teen idol.

If you are not a teen, I'd be even more worried.
Not nit-picking. I just find your posts agressive, inaccurate, judgemental and now personal. Not just about George's dancing but on other people's opinions of his dancing. Take a chill pill
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Old 29-05-2008, 19:10
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Charlie Green ruined his chance with the song has sang last night, that's what got him kicked off the show He should have won the entire show hands down, his first performace was class but last night, I was extremely dissapointed, I hope we aint heard the last of him though
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Old 29-05-2008, 19:23
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I think he's a bloody fantastic dancer. Flapping his arms about? Phulease Not many people can move like he does, especially at that age.

IMO he is one of my favourate acts tonight. His dancing talent is very raw and I'd rather see him win than another predictable singer.
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Old 29-05-2008, 19:42
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Glad the OP posted this and totally agree. Simon doesn't seem to be on the ball with this one. The fake humility was cringe worthy. Charlie had a dreadful song last night but still his talent shone through, I suppose the judges know he doesn't need BGT. The Karate kids, why did Simon go for them, he seems to have had his logic switched off this year, they were good but could you watch them for an hour, I think not.
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Old 29-05-2008, 20:47
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Am I missing something here ? Im not bothered about his sob story (as every act has one), Im talking about the person and the peformance. All I saw last night was a kid flapping his arms around for half the song then spinning round under some water. There was no variety, just the same spin and flap over and over and over again.

The praise and love here for him is strange to say the least. Also, I dont find as "likeable" in interviews as some other acts, he appears to stand there with a glazed look on his face. I know it's all irrelivent anyway as Faryl is the obvious winner (and anyone who thinks she wont win will be sadly mistaken), but to see a kid flapping his arms and reducing people to tears is, well, just plain wierd.
I dont get this euphoria either about him. Yes, he is young, cute and he can dance OK too but thats it IMO.

He is way toooo thin (unhealthily) and appears to have some other personality issues IMO that need handling before he hits and stary heoghts of fame.
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Old 29-05-2008, 22:05
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George is brill. He is my fave along with Faryl and Kate and Gin.
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Old 29-05-2008, 22:16
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I thought the billy elliot dancer from the auditions was miles better than george
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Old 29-05-2008, 22:21
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I think his performances have been entertaining - but he's definitely not `my winner' - he's not even in my top 5...

We'll have to wait and see...I just don't think his performance is as worthy of winning as some of the other finalists...
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Old 29-05-2008, 22:25
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seeing as it was a rip-off of the VW advert I couldn't see what all the fuss was about myself
Yup. Do a search for David Elsewhere and see how it's really done.
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Old 29-05-2008, 22:30
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I must admit I really didn't get last night's at all, and fail to see why they thought it was so good. I've quite liked George in the past, and he does seem like a nice kid, but last nights dance just seemed to consist of him flinging his arms around and spinning My OH was slightly worried there might have been a loose wire and we were actually watching him get electrocuted.

I've not minded him in the past and think he is talented, but last night it was all gimmick and no performance IMHO.

His audition performance was resonable but last nights was not really anything special. He put a lot of energy into it but that all. A bit of a Damp squib as you might say.
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Old 29-05-2008, 22:35
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I don't get it either. I mean I like the kid and i'm glad he got through. But i've seen nothing that makes me that I want him to win.
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Old 29-05-2008, 22:36
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So basically if you are a teenager or hysterical mother then you wet your pants over this kid who just waves his arms about in a shower.

If not then you are someone who can see that there is just no talent there.

Ah! Another sob story buyer.
That's an absolutely pathetic and unpleasant series of comments! Trolling like that is totally against forum rules - it's not on to make childish digs at other posters who happen not to agree with you.

I had quoted your longer post in order to address what you were saying, but why should anyone spend time taking you seriously when you're posting nasty responses?
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Originally Posted by doodle_bug
Glad the OP posted this and totally agree. Simon doesn't seem to be on the ball with this one. The fake humility was cringe worthy. Charlie had a dreadful song last night but still his talent shone through, I suppose the judges know he doesn't need BGT.
Doesn't seem to be on the ball? He won the round which also had the highest vote of the series. I mean it's fair enough that you don't like him, but you can't possibly have not noticed that a load of people do - obviously Simon isn't on his own.

Charlie on the other hand was out of tune and very stretched and shaky at points. He's a cute kid who's only an ok singer.

As for 'fake humility' I think it only reflects badly upon your self to make such unfounded statements about people when you don't know them. Who are you to say he's fake? That's not very nice.
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There was no variety, just the same spin and flap over and over and over again.
If you don't see the subtleties there, then you're not going to see variety (granted, it's a lot bloody harder to look when the camera work is TERRIBLE) - in the same way, someone might look at a quickstep and just think it's a load of bobbing about and running across the floor, whereas, of course, this is not the case.

The act was intricately choreographed and there was a lot of very different stuff in there - but again, bloody camera work will not have helped that in the least. I think there could have been better work in the shower bit.

Only a couple of bits were actually slightly out of time (although I'm not entirely sure the particular moves were meant to follow the music at that point), but it was a problem that on a medium range camera shot and at the end of a routine, he's doing much simpler movement before the finish - it wasn't out of place, but could be taken as that quite easily, so maybe it should have been a lot less subtle.

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There's thousands of people around who can body pop way better than him. Way, way better.
Then there's the replicating the VW Golf advert.
Nooooooooooo Have people who say this watched the advert? I mean the idea that it's 'replicated' is either a complete bastardisation of the word replicated or just a really bizarre comparison. George's dancing was much, MUCH faster, and in a different and far more advanced style. Even to people who haven't seen this style of dance before, I can't imagine how they can think that such a very simple style as seen on the advert can be confused with the complicated close work that George was doing.
Oh yes, and then there's the 'Billy Elliot' sob story. 'I'm from a tough background,...but I just want to dance'.
That seems a rather unfair objection - surely no one can be claiming to think this is new or that it's the contestant's idea?
Then,...there's the acting after his performance. The disingenuous fake shock at his own performance as though he's shocked at himself for performing a miracle or something.
He certainly knows how to play a crowd. The way he was behaving as he was drying himself with a towel looked like pure theatre.
This is the problem with the criticism - it's not objective criticism, it's all too personal. I mean that's a massive amount of supposition that you have absolutely zero basis to claim, which makes it rather insidious really. I mean you're pretty much making up stuff about him when you have no rational claim to do so.

People can well attack on the style or whether they liked it or not, and all I can do is disagree and think it's a conflict of taste ... but these personal attacks on a contestant they know nothing about are really, really poor. :/
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Old 29-05-2008, 23:07
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agree with this thread completely. when i was watching the performance i didnt think that it was incredibly special so when i heard the audience reaction and the judges comments i was amazed by how wrong i was. i felt that his 1st audition was alot better.
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Old 29-05-2008, 23:09
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So basically if you are a teenager or hysterical mother then you wet your pants over this kid who just waves his arms about in a shower.

If not then you are someone who can see that there is just no talent there.

What makes you think only teenagers and hysterical mothers like this kid. I'm neither and I can see he has tonnes of talent.
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Old 29-05-2008, 23:15
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Originally Posted by welwynrose
seeing as it was a rip-off of the VW advert I couldn't see what all the fuss was about myself
I've seem this VW advert and from what I can see the only similarities are the song and the rain. The dancing isn't the same.
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