I thought your post was very patronizing, accusing someone of being a kid just because they don't agree with your opinion is pathetic. And here you go still with your patronizing remarks. 'Talk about found out', em what?. I think you missed the point entirely..

Agree with this - he can dance, but he isn't anything special and was so obvious that he was stumbling all over the place towards the end.

Dancing fast isn't a talent - dance should be controlled and if you can't control it you should slow down or do shorter routines. He tries too hard to be cool and interesting when he would actually be better to think more about keeping his choreography within his limited talent.

What's all this rubbish about a sob story? I don't remember him ever doing one.
What's all this rubbish about "flapping his arms about"? He was doing a very energetic, intricately choreographed dance in a talented way.

I think he's by far the best so far and I hope he wins.

It was very controlled and very intricate. He does a lot of close work that's very subtle, but how are you meant to see it if the camera is all over the place? It took me re-watching the thing several times to notice most of what he really did in there, but then I wasn't so quick to assume that you could really appreciate the choreography given the problems with the camera direction - it's an assumption that's hardly logical.

He hasn't done anything - the makers of the show on the other hand have tried to accentuate his circumstances because they think it makes for better TV. Why their decision, which is not new and hasn't been exclusive, is being used to slam the kid is an interesting question.

It's all rather malicious and disingenuous.

Quite agree. There is nothing unique about his act - lots of people can do that type of dancing given a few hours training. I didn`t like the way he was saying how amazing his performance was - little Mr Humble he isn`t

I think he`s been to the Leon Jackson Sob Story School (I want to make a better life for my mother)........... certainly worked for him

I honestly don't know how good George is. As others have said, the camera work was so atrocious, it really was impossible to tell. I was left wondering, that if he hadn't finished the routine in water, would I have rated him at all?

No you wouldntve, in my opinion.

Infact, without the water i wouldve buzzed if i was a judge.

Why on earth were the bloody judges still bigging him up yesterday when he was'nt even on the show, OKAY WE GET IT - you are drumming up votes for him to make it slightly more interesting against the obvious winner that is Faryl.

What stumped me most is that everyone is going on about how "moving" his peformance was...........can somebody...........anybody tell me exactly how a boy flapping his arms around under a watering can is moving ?? I can understand people getting emotional about a heartbreaking song or a beauoful voice, but this ?? I despair.

To be honest, I'm the biggest cynic around when it comes to those sob-stories, but I found myself really liking this kid and I thought he was quite good as well Although I'm 100% expecting Faryl to win, especially with Simon pushing her all the way!

Give George a break! He is 14 years old - David Bernal is twice his age. Okay maybe he is a "learner" but he is top of the class for me! lol

Here we go again.... this is getting so boring. If he came from a privileged background he would get slated too!

It was obvious from the VT that he lives in a relatively "rough" area. What is he meant to say.

Leon won X Factor because he was better than Rhydian. End of story.

Right then, why dont you come on britains got talent and perform the same thing that George done?

Well said - I agree with everything you say. Think possibly Faryl will win, I do think she is very talented, but I think George will and should come very close.

Do I have to be a footballer to tell that the footballer last night dropped the ball?

Do I have to be an opera singer to hear a flat note?

It's a no to both so your age old argument never did and doesn't hold water.

What a ridiculous attitude of, If you can't do it you can't comment on it.

I think you will find two things: You are wrong and We can!

You can tell your age range: "xChErRy-DrOpSx" Big and small letters mixed with extras Plus Britain is always a Capital letter.

So basically you are a teenager yelling at adults "shut up if you can't do better"

Suggest going to debating classes at school to learn how to form an argument.

OMG! I just noticed that you are a Leona Lewis fan as well. Sorry cancel all of the above post as that is enough on it's own. Did you every have any taste about anything?

First post in this thread. I suggest you try and comprehend that your opinion is not fact, and EVERYONE is entitled to an opinion regardless of what yours is.

Hopefully you will be banned for trolling.

If not, then you can PM people for the above type of post.

And at the same time you get banned for disrespect?

You state that I am allowed to have an opinion and then you are the one who trows a teenage strop towards me.

What gave you away is calling someone a troll whose opinion you don't like. That always says everything we need to know about the poster.

So there you go. That is MY opinion and I know I'm entitled to it as you said so.

Because you asked the other poster how old they were.
That came across as being unnecessarily personal.

You comment on the age range of other posters, but other posters aren't trying to personally undermine the people they disagree with.

You rate George, fine.
Other posters don't rate him as much, also fine.

No disrespect has been shown, that is all in your head, trying to make things to be more than they are.

I don't recall any teenage strops in any of my posts on any thread, mainly because I'm not a teenager (interesting that you use the term to try and insult people you know nothing about), and because I don't have strops. Therefore nothing 'gave me away'.

Yes you are entitled to an opinion of me, just as I am of you. I think everyone reading this thread will have one of you too, whether they agree with your dislike of George or not. Note I haven't stated my opinion on him before you start calling me a teenager for liking him.

The main person acting like a teenager on this thread is you, having a tantrum because other people don't like your opinion.

I'm sure you will reply to this post with a message either attacking me, ridiculing me, or trying to make me look stupid. Whichever it is, I won't be replying to it as I am able to walk away from something like this.

Or even Jeffrey Daniels from way back.

It's my opinion.
Yes it's supposition, yes there's nothing that makes it fact. No I can't trapse around the internet and post links to 'facts' or 'evidence'.
But I don't need to, because the thing with an opinion is that it's an opinion.

I'm not attacking him, it's not insiduous. It's just an observation I made, rightly or wrongly, which does put me off him a bit.
I thought he was playing up to the audience a bit and was being disingenuous.
That's what I thought after watching it. It doesn't make him evil, it doesn't make him bad, it's just something that puts me off him a bit.
I've even said in several posts that he's probably a good kid. Partly because I didn't want people such as yourself get the wrong end of the stick and start ranting at me.

Personal attacks? You've got to be joking.

I probably wouldn't even mind if he won. If he does a good performance maybe I'd like him to win.
'Singing in the Rain', no sorry, it just didn't do it for me. I don't think on the night he was anywhere near as good as all the hysteria makes him out to be. I think he went hell for leather, which was admirable, but got knackered and ended up trying to dance under the water but was stumbling about and nearly falling over, so ended up instead flapping his arms about.
That's how I saw it. Not a great performance.
A good bit of popping in the middle, but a very patchy performance overall.

I feel a bit sorry for the football juggling guy because Simon didn't afford him the luxury of a mistake or two. But with George, Simon was fawning all over him despite a very hit and miss performance which was very patchy and inconsistent.

I think one or two people are being very melodramatic and are being too personal themselves in the face of any hint of criticism.
You see it's always this 'fan' BS that gets on my nerves and creates bad atmospheres on several forums.
If you're not 'on message' some people will try to throw everything they can at you in order to undermine your opinion.

I just formed opinions based on what I saw.
I think he's okay.
In fact I'd probably put him as my second or third choice to win the competition.
But I honestly thought the 'Singing in the Rain' performance wasn't that good, and it was more about big stage production, music, and judges hype which made it appear to be a lot more than what it was.

And I do think he was milking the audience a bit and playing up to them. When he was saying it was the greatest performance of his life, my natural feeling was to feel that he was being disingenuous and trying to do a number on the audience. Especially when he's also saying 'It doesn't get much better than that'. He was literally making out that he was amazed at his own performance. He came across to me as though he was trying to play them. Does that mean that he's a bad person? No not really. Does it put me off him a bit? Yes it does a bit. It takes the edge off him a bit for me.
These perceptions I have in this respect based on what I've seen on a TV show may well be wrong. And if I am wrong,...then good, that's even better.

But what I would say here is that on the flip side of that, many people are all too ready to buy into the worship of the perception of perfectly wonderful people who are promoted as such on these shows with an equal lack of evidence. If Simon Cowell's show sings the praises of somebody on TV and tries to imply that they are wonderful people, many people buy into it without question. My take on it is that people just aren't perfect, and what we are often watching are just media constructs.

But David Bernal was young when he first became known. That famous youtube clip of him was when he was only a few years older than George.

But even then, I think David Bernal is overrated too. I think he's good at what he does, sort of. Doing his wibbly wobbly thing. But he sometimes does things that I honestly think look just stupid
He sometimes does moves where I'm thinking "Err,..yes, alright then", which may seem interesting but oddly crap at the same time.

I believe that there truly are much better body poppers out there who aren't famous.
I've known people around from where I'm from who were more impressive than George. Two or three of my workmates in the past were unbelievably good compared to what he appears to be capable of doing at the moment.

I think that they'll be several people who read this forum who have also known people in their time from where they are from who are, or were, on another level compared to George.

It's just that it's not a case of if you are good at body popping you can make a career out of it. So why would most people even know about them? It's not as though there's the type of competition around where body poppers achieve national celebrity in the mainstream. It's all a very underground thing.
But to a mainstream television audience, somebody like George, or even David Bernal, will be a very limited exposure to them for this sort of thing. So naturally many people in general have no point of reference to compare them with. So they probably look amazing to ther eyes of a general mainstream audience.

Even if you look around on youtube you can find body poppers who, even judged objectively, you'd find to be simply incredible and in another league. You'd probably be surprised how advanced they are compared to George.

But he's young and no doubt he'll improve leaps and bounds over time. Right now he pleases a mainstream audience and that's no bad thing. If he entertains then that's great.
But I do think most people are completely unaware and are oblivious to the simply incredible body popping talent out there which is mind blowing compared to this stuff.

I didn't see what all the fuss was over George. And I do believe he was acting bigtime after his performance.

TV is one of the best demonstrations of Magic anywhere, it's all make believe, and it transports us to new and unreal worlds every night. Of course it's contrived, of course the judges have their favourites and of course we will be lead blindly to the final, and the person they want to win, will win, but we can enjoy being mislead in this way, after all that's what television is all about, its all done with mirrors.

I also, was moved by George's performance, but I remember watching Gene Kelly and being astounded by his dancing, as did Parky, of course George is no Gene Kelly and whether he took the idea from a VW advert or not, is totally irrelevant, he performed it his way and to the best of his ability, and it was very good, after all these are not professional performers, these are just ordinary people trying to do something that will brighten their mediocre and boring lives, like the rest of us, they live in Britain (notice I did not use Great) probably the most boring over taxed and underpaid place in the World, so anything that can help to get you out of here, is worth a try, so well done George, I for one, hope you win become successful around the World and manage to escape from Britain.

And that also goes to every other contestant that stands a chance of winning, I personally hope that whoever wins has as much success as Leona Lewis has had, and she hasn't left the U.K YET!