I desperately don't want these to win. This is supposed to be a variety act and having another opera singer win will mean the show becomes predictable. Yes they have great talent but i think its about variety. I'm backing Signature or George Sampson. Anyone agree?
Faryl Smith and Andrew Johnston - NO NO NO!!!
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Having another "opera" singer win means, real talent is being awarded.
If there is anybody who can beat these two, let them be known but there is no one around who can so they may as well let Faryl win.
The only two who come close to Faryl are George and Kate and Gin.
If there is anybody who can beat these two, let them be known but there is no one around who can so they may as well let Faryl win.
The only two who come close to Faryl are George and Kate and Gin.
I agree. As an opera director I object soooo much to these acts. They have decent voices, granted, but have neither the emotional maturity, nor the experience to be outstanding in their field. It's ll about sob stories and pushy parents.
I mean, when was the last time Amanda, Piers or Simon sat on the casting board at ENO???
And don't even get me started on Paul Potts...
We want knife throwing and contortionists and Hula Hoops!
I mean, when was the last time Amanda, Piers or Simon sat on the casting board at ENO???
And don't even get me started on Paul Potts...
We want knife throwing and contortionists and Hula Hoops!
I don't want a singer winning it for sure.
Is singing the only bloody thing we do in this country?
Why can't people's poor little brains expand to more than one thing?
Then people moan that you don't get variety any more
Is singing the only bloody thing we do in this country?
Why can't people's poor little brains expand to more than one thing?
Then people moan that you don't get variety any more
Originally Posted by Beer:
“Having another "opera" singer win means, real talent is being awarded.
If there is anybody who can beat these two, let them be known but there is no one around who can so they may as well let Faryl win.
The only two who come close to Faryl are George and Kate and Gin.”
“Having another "opera" singer win means, real talent is being awarded.
If there is anybody who can beat these two, let them be known but there is no one around who can so they may as well let Faryl win.
The only two who come close to Faryl are George and Kate and Gin.”
Faryl isn't an opera singer. Unless you know better and can tell me what roles she has performed...
Originally Posted by Esqualita:
“Faryl isn't an opera singer. Unless you know better and can tell me what roles she has performed...”
“Faryl isn't an opera singer. Unless you know better and can tell me what roles she has performed...”
That is why opera is in quotations love.
Originally Posted by Beer:
“That is why opera is in quotations love.”
“That is why opera is in quotations love.”
I'm not your love,sweetie
but we can fix that in time
But wjether or not you quote the word Opera-it has nothing to do with Faryl. She is a classically trained singer. Not opera. To call her an opera singer or "opera" singer denegrates the fantastic talent that true opera singers have, and have worked for all their life to achieve.Sweetheart.
Originally Posted by Esqualita:
“I'm not your love,sweetie but we can fix that in time
But wjether or not you quote the word Opera-it has nothing to do with Faryl. She is a classically trained singer. Not opera. To call her an opera singer or "opera" singer denegrates the fantastic talent that true opera singers have, and have worked for all their life to achieve.Sweetheart.”
“I'm not your love,sweetie
but we can fix that in timeBut wjether or not you quote the word Opera-it has nothing to do with Faryl. She is a classically trained singer. Not opera. To call her an opera singer or "opera" singer denegrates the fantastic talent that true opera singers have, and have worked for all their life to achieve.Sweetheart.”
I know I know... but people refer to her as classicaly, opera, etc etc so you just have to go with the flow. LOVE!
Originally Posted by Beer:
“I know I know... but people refer to her as classicaly, opera, etc etc so you just have to go with the flow. LOVE!”
“I know I know... but people refer to her as classicaly, opera, etc etc so you just have to go with the flow. LOVE!”
I ain't goin with no flow my dearest sweetest unrequited loveliness because it goes against my very being. xxxx
Originally Posted by Esqualita:
“I ain't goin with no flow my dearest sweetest unrequited loveliness because it goes against my very being. xxxx”
“I ain't goin with no flow my dearest sweetest unrequited loveliness because it goes against my very being. xxxx”
I think that's wrong "darling" because it's nice to keep up or down with the joneses.
Anyway - they may hit the right notes, but there's more to singing than that. They don't sing with feeling - maybe in time they will, but they are too young as yet. The songs both sang this week need and deserve to be sung with feeling (more so than with technical proficiency), and so I didn't enjoy them at all and have no desire to hear them sing again (although I am not saying they can't sing).
And so it turns into a flirt fest?
lol
Get a room
Seriously; I think Faryl has a good voice; but I wouldn't put on par with professional singers in her field - I think she is more a case of potential to become something; not that she is something already. If that makes sense?
But if we line up our finalists:
Signature:
I personally like Signature because they are different. I know MJ dancing isn't original but there is something about there act that is attractive; something watchable about it.
Kate & Jin:
I appreciate Kate and Jin; she is obviously very skilled to teach that dog those tricks; but I don't see her as a winner - I don't know why, I just don't.
Cheeky Monkeys:
They are cute, but the fact they have only been dancing for 9 months really shows. Much of their semi-final performance was unskilled but accepted due to the cute-factor.
Not winners - or shouldn't be.
Andrew:
Good singer; not exceptional but still good. It wouldn't be embarassing if he won but I don't think he would be the best winner.
Strike:
Now these guys would be worthy winners; they are so fit (I mean that in health terms) and it shows. They have taken a form of sport and made it entertainment - and they have done a good job of it. It's different, well produced and works. Worthy winners.
George:
I think he did a good job of his semi-final performance; I know a lot of it was production values but I enjoyed it. I'd like to see what he can do without all the bells and whistles though.
Faryl:
Another very good singer, of the two classical singers, in fact out of the singers we have so far I think she is the better choice if we have a singing winner. While I think it is untrue to say she is amazing now, I think given the right guidance, training and practice she could become amazing.
I guess, she has the most potential to become something big.
Andrew:
He can sing well but I'm not mad on his voice so I am not for him to win. BUT that could well just be my personal opinion.
Of tonights performances;
if Scala (Escala) can do a performance that shows them to be up to or close to their main commercial competitors standards; I could really go for them (I'm not going to get into it again; people from other threads know my opinion).
If they can do something like Explosive as good as their main competitor in the final - a clear winner in my eyes, if not then I see them as the lesser of two great creatives.
That is unless they go down a totally different route to their audition.
The other I would say; Nemesis - as Flavor didn't get through. I like that style of dancing, its good to watch.
Per Diem/Madonna:
Sadly I won't want them through; not because they aren't good but because of saturation. I think Scala/Escala and Nemesis would make a better, more varied final. If either of these two acts or worse; both of them; we have X-Factor with a couple of non-singers thrown in for good measure (well sort of).
lol
Get a room
Seriously; I think Faryl has a good voice; but I wouldn't put on par with professional singers in her field - I think she is more a case of potential to become something; not that she is something already. If that makes sense?
But if we line up our finalists:
Signature:
I personally like Signature because they are different. I know MJ dancing isn't original but there is something about there act that is attractive; something watchable about it.
Kate & Jin:
I appreciate Kate and Jin; she is obviously very skilled to teach that dog those tricks; but I don't see her as a winner - I don't know why, I just don't.
Cheeky Monkeys:
They are cute, but the fact they have only been dancing for 9 months really shows. Much of their semi-final performance was unskilled but accepted due to the cute-factor.
Not winners - or shouldn't be.
Andrew:
Good singer; not exceptional but still good. It wouldn't be embarassing if he won but I don't think he would be the best winner.
Strike:
Now these guys would be worthy winners; they are so fit (I mean that in health terms) and it shows. They have taken a form of sport and made it entertainment - and they have done a good job of it. It's different, well produced and works. Worthy winners.
George:
I think he did a good job of his semi-final performance; I know a lot of it was production values but I enjoyed it. I'd like to see what he can do without all the bells and whistles though.
Faryl:
Another very good singer, of the two classical singers, in fact out of the singers we have so far I think she is the better choice if we have a singing winner. While I think it is untrue to say she is amazing now, I think given the right guidance, training and practice she could become amazing.
I guess, she has the most potential to become something big.
Andrew:
He can sing well but I'm not mad on his voice so I am not for him to win. BUT that could well just be my personal opinion.
Of tonights performances;
if Scala (Escala) can do a performance that shows them to be up to or close to their main commercial competitors standards; I could really go for them (I'm not going to get into it again; people from other threads know my opinion).
If they can do something like Explosive as good as their main competitor in the final - a clear winner in my eyes, if not then I see them as the lesser of two great creatives.
That is unless they go down a totally different route to their audition.
The other I would say; Nemesis - as Flavor didn't get through. I like that style of dancing, its good to watch.
Per Diem/Madonna:
Sadly I won't want them through; not because they aren't good but because of saturation. I think Scala/Escala and Nemesis would make a better, more varied final. If either of these two acts or worse; both of them; we have X-Factor with a couple of non-singers thrown in for good measure (well sort of).
Originally Posted by Fizix:
“Strike:
Now these guys would be worthy winners; they are so fit (I mean that in health terms) and it shows. They have taken a form of sport and made it entertainment - and they have done a good job of it. It's different, well produced and works. Worthy winners.
”
“Strike:
Now these guys would be worthy winners; they are so fit (I mean that in health terms) and it shows. They have taken a form of sport and made it entertainment - and they have done a good job of it. It's different, well produced and works. Worthy winners.
”
They are far from unique. Extreme Martial Arts and 'tricking' is popular all over the world and I have seen a lot better.
They also rely a lot on taking their tops off. I would like to see them keep their tops on in the final and see if they can impress without the adoration of shallow females.
Originally Posted by Chilly Mondo:
“I don't want a singer winning it for sure.
Is singing the only bloody thing we do in this country?
”
“I don't want a singer winning it for sure.
Is singing the only bloody thing we do in this country?
”
No we whinge a lot as well
Originally Posted by Saigo:
“They are far from unique. Extreme Martial Arts and 'tricking' is popular all over the world and I have seen a lot better.
They also rely a lot on taking their tops off. I would like to see them keep their tops on in the final and see if they can impress without the adoration of shallow females.”
“They are far from unique. Extreme Martial Arts and 'tricking' is popular all over the world and I have seen a lot better.
They also rely a lot on taking their tops off. I would like to see them keep their tops on in the final and see if they can impress without the adoration of shallow females.”
Spoilsport.
Get em off, I say!
I was unmoved by both of their performances
They are too both young to convey any convincing emotion when they sing. They just have pleasant voices. I was pretty sure Faryl would win but now I'm not so sure.
They are too both young to convey any convincing emotion when they sing. They just have pleasant voices. I was pretty sure Faryl would win but now I'm not so sure.
Originally Posted by Esqualita:
“I agree. As an opera director I object soooo much to these acts. They have decent voices, granted, but have neither the emotional maturity, nor the experience to be outstanding in their field. It's ll about sob stories and pushy parents.
I mean, when was the last time Amanda, Piers or Simon sat on the casting board at ENO???
And don't even get me started on Paul Potts...
We want knife throwing and contortionists and Hula Hoops!”
“I agree. As an opera director I object soooo much to these acts. They have decent voices, granted, but have neither the emotional maturity, nor the experience to be outstanding in their field. It's ll about sob stories and pushy parents.
I mean, when was the last time Amanda, Piers or Simon sat on the casting board at ENO???
And don't even get me started on Paul Potts...
We want knife throwing and contortionists and Hula Hoops!”
Possibly one of the best posts I have read on the subject.
Originally Posted by Esqualita:
“Faryl isn't an opera singer. Unless you know better and can tell me what roles she has performed...”
“Faryl isn't an opera singer. Unless you know better and can tell me what roles she has performed...”
but thats what Simon will tade on
'The New Charlotte Church'
IF Faryl does start a career in opera singing, then I hope she doesn't go down the same road as Charlotte did, like smoking which no doubt ruined her angelic voice. This is most likely the reason why she had to turn to pop for.
Originally Posted by BrokenArrow:
“No we whinge a lot as well”
“No we whinge a lot as well
”
I could win the show with that talent!
Originally Posted by zx50:
“IF Faryl does start a career in opera singing, then I hope she doesn't go down the same road as Charlotte did, like smoking which no doubt ruined her angelic voice. This is most likely the reason why she had to turn to pop for.”
“IF Faryl does start a career in opera singing, then I hope she doesn't go down the same road as Charlotte did, like smoking which no doubt ruined her angelic voice. This is most likely the reason why she had to turn to pop for.”
You see-I disagree. I thought the best possible career move Charlotte Church made was to ditch all theat "voice of an angel" pap and get herself some cool. She sounds like she means what she sings now-unlike the drivel she was forced to put out in her pushy-parented days of classical mulch.
She realised that to get ahead in the world of classical music you have to earn the resect of fellow performers AND, more importantly, conductors. Not by singing down the phone to Richard and Judy.
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“Anyway - they may hit the right notes, but there's more to singing than that. They don't sing with feeling - maybe in time they will, but they are too young as yet. The songs both sang this week need and deserve to be sung with feeling (more so than with technical proficiency), and so I didn't enjoy them at all and have no desire to hear them sing again (although I am not saying they can't sing).”
“Anyway - they may hit the right notes, but there's more to singing than that. They don't sing with feeling - maybe in time they will, but they are too young as yet. The songs both sang this week need and deserve to be sung with feeling (more so than with technical proficiency), and so I didn't enjoy them at all and have no desire to hear them sing again (although I am not saying they can't sing).”
It isn't age. I've heard 11-13 year olds sing with as much feeling as an adult, it depends how they're taught. Andrew is more expressive than Faryl but both can work on it - and to balance it, Faryl's voice is probably slightly more appealing (though I like boys' voices more than ladies) - they're incredibly difficult to split but I still prefer Andrew.
Though I don't really want Andrew to win because he will leave them a massive dilemma because I can't see his voice lasting until the RVP without starting to break.
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