OMG she's not abandoned her bloody kids she's going to bring them over here she speaks to them all the time give her a break!!!!
Madonna Decena p****s me off royally!
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Originally Posted by Im_That_Girl:
“Abandoned them? If she had done that she wouldn't have contact with them for goodness sake! There's a difference....”
“Abandoned them? If she had done that she wouldn't have contact with them for goodness sake! There's a difference....”
Errr no
- they will grow up & say...."Mummy was never there for us, we spoke to her over the phone, but she was never actually there" 
Originally Posted by crazychris12:
“My wife's Filipino. Lots of these women and couples too, have kids and send them to the Philippines so they can work. It's ridiculous.”
“My wife's Filipino. Lots of these women and couples too, have kids and send them to the Philippines so they can work. It's ridiculous.”
Assuming she had the kids there, then she's come here to work and send money home so they have a better life. I know all about it as my wife's from Philippines.
She does my bloody head in. I never liked her: she latched onto this sob story and milked it for all it was worth. Why doesn't she drop this dream and go back to her kids who need her.
Well in that case, I couldn't bring myself to leave my children, if the situation was bad enough as it was, to be a club singer, surely they would need me there. A day is a long time for me, let alone months.
To me, its just not right - I might have had more sympathy if she was actually a good singer because I could understand her trying a shot at stardom. But with her voice? Doesn't seem to justify it, especially when it was shoved down our throats like it was tonight.
Thats my opinion, its no more wrong than yours.
To me, its just not right - I might have had more sympathy if she was actually a good singer because I could understand her trying a shot at stardom. But with her voice? Doesn't seem to justify it, especially when it was shoved down our throats like it was tonight.
Thats my opinion, its no more wrong than yours.
The picture of her kids on the big screen was just ramming the sob story home but didn't work with the public.
Originally Posted by Vivadiva:
“She does my bloody head in. I never liked her: she latched onto this sob story and milked it for all it was worth. Why doesn't she drop this dream and go back to her kids who need her.”
“She does my bloody head in. I never liked her: she latched onto this sob story and milked it for all it was worth. Why doesn't she drop this dream and go back to her kids who need her.”
Well ruddy said
I didn't say your opinion was wrong, what I think is that you should try and understand her reasons for leaving the children? You might not be able to do it and god forbid I hope you're never in Madonna's situation but open your eyes life isn't rosy and sometimes decisions like this are made!
Originally Posted by Vivadiva:
“She does my bloody head in. I never liked her: she latched onto this sob story and milked it for all it was worth. Why doesn't she drop this dream and go back to her kids who need her.”
“She does my bloody head in. I never liked her: she latched onto this sob story and milked it for all it was worth. Why doesn't she drop this dream and go back to her kids who need her.”
Cos she can earn more weekly, cleaning or whatever she does here, than she can earn in a month there.
I'm so glad the celebrity panel picked up on the sob stories on ITV2, because everyone is getting sick and tired of hearing them.
Anyone would think the rest of us didn't have troubles.
The photo of her kids on the screen was nauseating (not touching) and her performance was off-key and out of time.
Anyone would think the rest of us didn't have troubles.
The photo of her kids on the screen was nauseating (not touching) and her performance was off-key and out of time.
All this sympathy playing is because they are told to do it. It's the same on the X Factor. I personally don't think it did Madonna any favours this evening though as I think people are getting fed up with it all IMO - it's clearly evident on this thread alone!!
I appreciate she got very emotional during her performance but i personally didn't think she was that great tonight!
I appreciate she got very emotional during her performance but i personally didn't think she was that great tonight!
Originally Posted by ak001:
“Sounds exactly like abandoning them to me - im sure they'd have an even better life if she was there with them in person ”
“Sounds exactly like abandoning them to me
- im sure they'd have an even better life if she was there with them in person ”
Wow, no you can't live off love alone. What are you going to eat? She's sacrificing her own personal happiness so her kids can have a good education and hopefully have a better life than she had.
There seems to be this perception that it's an atrocity to leave your children and as a result they'll be damaged for life. Where I'm from, it's a sacrifice and the kids will appreciate she's doing it all for them, love her for it, and show their gratitude by doing something worthwhile with their lives.
My aunt did that - she has no future in Burma, no job, no prospects, and she gave up her three children for adoption to my other aunt in America, to give them a good life. She hasn't seen them in over ten years, and even though it kills her, they're all now graduating from uni and have hope. If they'd stayed in Burma, maybe they'd get degrees, then opened a shop, been dirt poor, and end up working in the black market. Or they'd probably be dead from government neglect from the cyclone.
Originally Posted by Im_That_Girl:
“I didn't say your opinion was wrong, what I think is that you should try and understand her reasons for leaving the children? You might not be able to do it and god forbid I hope you're never in Madonna's situation but open your eyes life isn't rosy and sometimes decisions like this are made!”
“I didn't say your opinion was wrong, what I think is that you should try and understand her reasons for leaving the children? You might not be able to do it and god forbid I hope you're never in Madonna's situation but open your eyes life isn't rosy and sometimes decisions like this are made!”
If i was ever in that situation...i would be so thankful i was around every day to see my kids growing up
Originally Posted by crazychris12:
“Cos she can earn more weekly, cleaning or whatever she does here, than she can earn in a month there.”
“Cos she can earn more weekly, cleaning or whatever she does here, than she can earn in a month there.”
I think she sings in clubs etc to earn a living in this country
SK you're so right in what you're saying...Unfortunatly I think we are wasting our time I don't think they'll ever understand...
Originally Posted by Im_That_Girl:
“I didn't say your opinion was wrong, what I think is that you should try and understand her reasons for leaving the children? You might not be able to do it and god forbid I hope you're never in Madonna's situation but open your eyes life isn't rosy and sometimes decisions like this are made!”
“I didn't say your opinion was wrong, what I think is that you should try and understand her reasons for leaving the children? You might not be able to do it and god forbid I hope you're never in Madonna's situation but open your eyes life isn't rosy and sometimes decisions like this are made!”
I would understand...if she was good. And didn't milk it.......and it felt genuine etc et etc. Like I said, something just does't fit right. Of course I can understand people leaving for better paid jobs, I'm not an idiot. But as i've been saying all along, it seems more about what she wants - whilst using the sob story as a way of gaining public sympathy. This is about her career not going off to get any job that pays. She seems intelligent enough, if she is not earning much doing this as she has said (and with good bloody reason) why not get a better paid, regular job and speed up the process of getting her kids over here?
Because it isn't about that of course, its about her not giving up the ghost.
Originally Posted by KirstyG75:
“I think she sings in clubs etc to earn a living in this country”
“I think she sings in clubs etc to earn a living in this country”
Well she'll earn more from that in a week than she'd earn in a month or two there.
Think about it as well.....if she were to have won this competition, do you think she'd have just said..."oh i must get back & see my kids"?
Of course not....she'd have had to conform to the demands of fame - thus, seeing even less of her kids
Of course not....she'd have had to conform to the demands of fame - thus, seeing even less of her kids
Originally Posted by crazychris12:
“Well she'll earn more from that in a week than she'd earn in a month or two there.”
“Well she'll earn more from that in a week than she'd earn in a month or two there.”
I wish her all the best, and I hope that she gets a break and can somehow she can be reunited with her kids here.
But I wanted to see her talent, not hear about her personal life.
Originally Posted by NatalieP:
“I would understand...if she was good. And didn't milk it.......and it felt genuine etc et etc. Like I said, something just does't fit right. Of course I can understand people leaving for better paid jobs, I'm not an idiot. But as i've been saying all along, it seems more about what she wants - whilst using the sob story as a way of gaining public sympathy. This is about her career not going off to get any job that pays. She seems intelligent enough, if she is not earning much doing this as she has said (and with good bloody reason) why not get a better paid, regular job and speed up the process of getting her kids over here?
Because it isn't about that of course, its about her not giving up the ghost.”
“I would understand...if she was good. And didn't milk it.......and it felt genuine etc et etc. Like I said, something just does't fit right. Of course I can understand people leaving for better paid jobs, I'm not an idiot. But as i've been saying all along, it seems more about what she wants - whilst using the sob story as a way of gaining public sympathy. This is about her career not going off to get any job that pays. She seems intelligent enough, if she is not earning much doing this as she has said (and with good bloody reason) why not get a better paid, regular job and speed up the process of getting her kids over here?
Because it isn't about that of course, its about her not giving up the ghost.”
You don't know the details of her personal circumstances. Although I wasn't particularly impressed at her singing, it certainly seemed to me she loves her kids and obviously doesnt want to be away from them. Whether you think she's going about it the right way or not is completely irrelevant, its all very well passing judgement when you aren't in her shoes.
Originally Posted by Im_That_Girl:
“I didn't say your opinion was wrong, what I think is that you should try and understand her reasons for leaving the children? You might not be able to do it and god forbid I hope you're never in Madonna's situation but open your eyes life isn't rosy and sometimes decisions like this are made!”
“I didn't say your opinion was wrong, what I think is that you should try and understand her reasons for leaving the children? You might not be able to do it and god forbid I hope you're never in Madonna's situation but open your eyes life isn't rosy and sometimes decisions like this are made!”
are you a mum yourself?
reading this thread you are missing in what my opinion is the most crucial point....
NO MATTER WHAT, NO MATTER WHERE, NO MATTER HOW LITTLE MONEY I HAD....i would NEVER leave my children.
help is out there, and families should stick together. In my opinion shes a selfish dream chaser. I desire to be a singer so so much, but being a mummy is my top priority!!!
it makes me so mad!!!!
Originally Posted by Sid_1979:
“I wish her all the best, and I hope that she gets a break and can somehow she can be reunited with her kids here.”
“I wish her all the best, and I hope that she gets a break and can somehow she can be reunited with her kids here.”
She can be...the 1st plane back leaves 1st thing in the morning
No I'm not a mother...Does that matter? I'm from a single parent family...
I understand what you're saying Alfie and Charlie but again I expect you haven't been put in Madonna's situation!
I understand what you're saying Alfie and Charlie but again I expect you haven't been put in Madonna's situation!
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