Originally Posted by grimtales1:
“Of course they were playing live.”
“Of course they were playing live.”
Seriously! What evidence have you got to prove that? The backing track was so loud and featured a full orchestra i really couldn't tell!
Escala
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Seriously! What evidence have you got to prove that? The backing track was so loud and featured a full orchestra i really couldn't tell!
Originally Posted by anthropod:
“What makes me cross is the way the judges talk about this kind of act as original, enthusing, looking gobsmacked as if it has never happened before.
What about "Bella Rumore" in the USA
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...5-cf7041a07680
or "Maske" in Australia
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...e-bb48775266e0
It is not even original to the UK, "Bond" have been around for years.”
“What makes me cross is the way the judges talk about this kind of act as original, enthusing, looking gobsmacked as if it has never happened before.
What about "Bella Rumore" in the USA
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...5-cf7041a07680
or "Maske" in Australia
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...e-bb48775266e0
It is not even original to the UK, "Bond" have been around for years.”
I immediately thought of Bond when I saw them.
They're very good but hardly original.
Originally Posted by grimtales1:
“Maybe he just meant there arent "many" groups like them. The instruments look like the ones in that Ford ad where they play instruments made from car parts.
I agree with Reality Sucks - they came after Bond - so what? Surely they arent EXACTLY the same as Bond (they play violins = they're copying Bond
) is anything in this world totally original?”
“Maybe he just meant there arent "many" groups like them. The instruments look like the ones in that Ford ad where they play instruments made from car parts.
I agree with Reality Sucks - they came after Bond - so what? Surely they arent EXACTLY the same as Bond (they play violins = they're copying Bond
) is anything in this world totally original?”
Then he should have said "there are not many groups like you" shouldn't he? "Original" means exactly that - doesn't mean one of several.
The judges are playing heavilly on the originality of the act when they are far, far from original; they are a carbon copy of Bond; right down to the band setup and instruments.
The sound is exactly the same on the most part, the song in the audition and tonight is a Bond cover.
You know; its going so far its taking the piss a bit.
NOBODY is saying that they shouldn't play, nobody is saying they shouldn't be in the competition; what people are saying is that they are pretty much a clone of Bond (on multiple levels) and are being marketed to the public as a unique act.
It's not the same as x artist coming out and covering songs or someone singing an existing song. Because those artists are not coined as an original and unique act.
If we compare Bond and Escala (none are significant on their own; its the combination of all these things hooked with the way they are being presented by the show):
1. Escala and Bond have the same setup
2. Escala and Bond play the same instruments
* Bond play electric and acoustic variants of the instruments
3. Escala performed Bond's version of Palladio in the audition
4. Escala are performing Bond's version of Palladio again in tonights show
5. Every time they have appeared in VT's they play Bond (this I find hugely amusing)
6. Every time the judges mouths open they harp on about them being unique and original
7. Even Escala have said they are unique and original
8. Escala are playing the same style of classical crossover as Bond & the same tracks
The sound is exactly the same on the most part, the song in the audition and tonight is a Bond cover.
You know; its going so far its taking the piss a bit.
NOBODY is saying that they shouldn't play, nobody is saying they shouldn't be in the competition; what people are saying is that they are pretty much a clone of Bond (on multiple levels) and are being marketed to the public as a unique act.
It's not the same as x artist coming out and covering songs or someone singing an existing song. Because those artists are not coined as an original and unique act.
If we compare Bond and Escala (none are significant on their own; its the combination of all these things hooked with the way they are being presented by the show):
1. Escala and Bond have the same setup
2. Escala and Bond play the same instruments
* Bond play electric and acoustic variants of the instruments
3. Escala performed Bond's version of Palladio in the audition
4. Escala are performing Bond's version of Palladio again in tonights show
5. Every time they have appeared in VT's they play Bond (this I find hugely amusing)
6. Every time the judges mouths open they harp on about them being unique and original
7. Even Escala have said they are unique and original
8. Escala are playing the same style of classical crossover as Bond & the same tracks
These girls have a lot of potential if they lose the backing track plus Who ever thought of the cheeky monkeys in a final come on there never going to win it and does anyone know of why they had to add the E to the start of their name.
Oh and here's their website didnt see it on DS.
http://www.escalamusic.com
Oh and here's their website didnt see it on DS.
http://www.escalamusic.com
Originally Posted by Jelite:
“They're original in BGT.
”
“They're original in BGT.
”
Oh right, so that makes them universally original?
hehe
Originally Posted by nutty88:
“These girls have a lot of potential if they lose the backing track plus Who ever thought of the cheeky monkeys in a final come on there never going to win it and does anyone know of why they had to add the E to the start of their name.
Oh and here's their website didnt see it on DS.
http://www.escalamusic.com”
“These girls have a lot of potential if they lose the backing track plus Who ever thought of the cheeky monkeys in a final come on there never going to win it and does anyone know of why they had to add the E to the start of their name.
Oh and here's their website didnt see it on DS.
http://www.escalamusic.com”
Britain's Got Talent: row over Scala's name
Quote:
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Electric string quartet Scala have been forced to change their name - because it belongs to a little-known female voice choir in Belgium.
The girls, a favourite for tonight's semi-final, changed to Escala after EM I threatened to sue, despite having used it for two years.
An insider said: "They have their own website and branding, so they're very annoyed."
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The girls, a favourite for tonight's semi-final, changed to Escala after EM I threatened to sue, despite having used it for two years.
An insider said: "They have their own website and branding, so they're very annoyed."
Originally Posted by Fizix:
“Oh right, so that makes them universally original?
hehe”
“Oh right, so that makes them universally original?
hehe”
Who said they were universaly original?
Originally Posted by ibeca:
“You do have a point. Bond's sales haven't been bad but they haven't exactly set the world on fire. Escala, or what we've heard from them, are not even as good as Bond.”
“You do have a point. Bond's sales haven't been bad but they haven't exactly set the world on fire. Escala, or what we've heard from them, are not even as good as Bond.”
Don't wish to sound snobbish but I've never heard of BOND but there again, I'm not into popular music, as such.
Originally Posted by Poor Old Ben:
“The reason they are world class is because they have been trained at world class music school and are a professional band. They have toured all over the world and performed with professional musicians and artists. They are not some band that has just walked of the street or a band who play local pubs and clubs for some exposure.”
“The reason they are world class is because they have been trained at world class music school and are a professional band. They have toured all over the world and performed with professional musicians and artists. They are not some band that has just walked of the street or a band who play local pubs and clubs for some exposure.”
nor are half the other acts
people say Escala are not orginal tell me one act in the final that is original
Kate & Gin - sorry clone of Mary Ray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK43ZUIgPJc
George - where do we start ripped off the VW advert, numerous other dancers dance in a simlar style
Andrew Johnston - Aled Jones
Andrew Muir - any half decent male solo singer
Faryl Smith - Charlotte Church
Nemisis - there are many simliar dancing group as Nemesis enter competition with them
Cheeky Monkeys - Child dancers thousand of them up & down the country
Strike - Mike Chat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytrIKDogphc
Signature - Michael Jackson but with a twist (most original act but only because of the bhangra twist)
Kate & Gin - sorry clone of Mary Ray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK43ZUIgPJc
George - where do we start ripped off the VW advert, numerous other dancers dance in a simlar style
Andrew Johnston - Aled Jones
Andrew Muir - any half decent male solo singer
Faryl Smith - Charlotte Church
Nemisis - there are many simliar dancing group as Nemesis enter competition with them
Cheeky Monkeys - Child dancers thousand of them up & down the country
Strike - Mike Chat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytrIKDogphc
Signature - Michael Jackson but with a twist (most original act but only because of the bhangra twist)
Very true - you could apply the "not original" argument to any of the acts. Though I liked George's Singin' In the Rain dance 
Yep; very true. However...
Barring Signature and Strike, the other acts are not being marketed as "unique" as such and in some ways they both are.
Escala on the other hand are being agressively marketed as original and unique and in Escalas case, they are the least unique act on there as what they are performing already exists in a near identical form by a near identical group.
Sadly there are three differences between Escala and Bond.
1. The people (obviously)
2. Bond are more experienced
3. Bond are creating original material; as in starting with a blank page and creating this stuff from nothing; not just taking existing classical compositions and "moderning" them up.
Other than that; there isn't a hell of a lot between them.
Now this is fine and fair play; its the marketing slant the show is putting on Escala that I don't agree with; doing this and then sitting there saying that there is nothing else on this earth that are quite like them. Because thats a blatant lie.
Barring Signature and Strike, the other acts are not being marketed as "unique" as such and in some ways they both are.
Escala on the other hand are being agressively marketed as original and unique and in Escalas case, they are the least unique act on there as what they are performing already exists in a near identical form by a near identical group.
Sadly there are three differences between Escala and Bond.
1. The people (obviously)
2. Bond are more experienced
3. Bond are creating original material; as in starting with a blank page and creating this stuff from nothing; not just taking existing classical compositions and "moderning" them up.
Other than that; there isn't a hell of a lot between them.
Now this is fine and fair play; its the marketing slant the show is putting on Escala that I don't agree with; doing this and then sitting there saying that there is nothing else on this earth that are quite like them. Because thats a blatant lie.
Originally Posted by Fizix:
“Yep; very true. However...
Barring Signature and Strike, the other acts are not being marketed as "unique" as such and in some ways they both are.
Escala on the other hand are being agressively marketed as original and unique and in Escalas case, they are the least unique act on there as what they are performing already exists in a near identical form by a near identical group.
Sadly there are three differences between Escala and Bond.
1. The people (obviously)
2. Bond are more experienced
3. Bond are creating original material; as in starting with a blank page and creating this stuff from nothing; not just taking existing classical compositions and "moderning" them up.
Other than that; there isn't a hell of a lot between them.
Now this is fine and fair play; its the marketing slant the show is putting on Escala that I don't agree with; doing this and then sitting there saying that there is nothing else on this earth that are quite like them. Because thats a blatant lie.”
“Yep; very true. However...
Barring Signature and Strike, the other acts are not being marketed as "unique" as such and in some ways they both are.
Escala on the other hand are being agressively marketed as original and unique and in Escalas case, they are the least unique act on there as what they are performing already exists in a near identical form by a near identical group.
Sadly there are three differences between Escala and Bond.
1. The people (obviously)
2. Bond are more experienced
3. Bond are creating original material; as in starting with a blank page and creating this stuff from nothing; not just taking existing classical compositions and "moderning" them up.
Other than that; there isn't a hell of a lot between them.
Now this is fine and fair play; its the marketing slant the show is putting on Escala that I don't agree with; doing this and then sitting there saying that there is nothing else on this earth that are quite like them. Because thats a blatant lie.”
and the same apply to Kate & Gin - Mary Ray been doing it for longer & is better at it
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