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Old 31-05-2008, 14:44
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Rant about your pet hates here. It doesn't matter if they're stupid, or can't be helped or are unfair. If they're annoying, they count.

For me, it's:

1: That thing where you hear a song and love it, but when you listen to more songs by the artists that sang it they're all a bit rubbish. There is nothing more annoying than thinking youve found a cool new band, bt have actually found a one hit wonder. It can really get you down if it happens again and again.

2: Rockstar by Nickleback. It isn't that I hate Nickleback as a band (How You Remind Me was quite good), but I seriously can't stand that song. You can't get away from it! All the stations play it constantly, it's been sitting at the top of the Rock Charts for God knows how long, and everyone else loves it (and think you're mad because you don't) so they play it too! Aargh!

3: Kerrang radio. Proper rock station? Nah. They're just like all the others. Play the same songs over and over again, are allergic to songs more than a month old and stick with middle of the road bull that won't upset anybody. I'm sorry, but I do not want to hear the Kooks on any station, let alone one claiming to be different to all the mainstream ones.

4: Club music, and the gazillions of CDs dediacted to it. How does it become popular? How does it get into the national top 10? How can people listen to it? And more importantly, why are compilations of music that are of no interest to anyone apart from those who go to a certain type of nightclub saturating the CD chart? Do people really need 100 different choices when trying to buy a club music CD. No, they don't Talk about a bandwagon. Jesus.

5: Bangwagons in general: Believe it or not, people like originality and diversity. They do not want 10 bands/artists that may as well be the same one. Indie Rock, I'm looking at you.

6: That sort of American rock that sounds like glorified McFly: Strong Yankee accents, gelled up hair, lead singers who look about 15 standing in suburban gardens in broad daylight, a lot of lyrics replaced by the lead singer going 'uh uh oh, wooaahh'. Bands like the Offspring and Blink 182, really. Fall Out Boy, Green Day and Bowling for Soup are on the better end of it, but it's along those lines.

7: Rap: Or more specifically, the sort of rap that sells. I feel sorry for rap fans as their music, which once had credibility, has now descended into songs about liking big asses and Supermanning hos. Meh.

8: The way that the Hits always play the same video for a paticular artist in a countdown: Say, there are three countdowns. One is 'The 100 greatest bands ever', another is 'The 100 greatest artists of the 21st century', and the last is '50 women that rock.' Say Evanescence/Amy Lee was in all of them (don't know if they/she would be, but still, it's just an example). Invariably, the video to 'Bring me to Life' would be played in all of the lists. Why can't the Hits show artists a bit of acknowledgement by playing different songs of theirs in every list, as opposed to just their best seller all the time?

9: The way most women in music go out of their way to be 'sexy': I don't mind people doing it, but when the vast majority of women do it gets annoying. Men don't try to turn women on in all their videos, so why do so many women try to turn men on? You would be hard pressed to find a woman who did all her music vids with no flesh on show.
The problem I have with it is that women are already judged by their appearance, and people encouraging it by trying to be 'sexy' isn't helping the matter.

10: Live shows where either the band messes around with a song, or where people scream and shout over all the songs: Need I say why?

11: Specific Genres and the music snobbery that goes with them: Yes, I have actually encountered people on YouTube who see enough of a difference between 'Gothic Metal', 'Vampyric Metal' and 'Vampyric Gothic Metal' to get into a row over it. I have also met people who won't listen to anything except Black Metal, and half the black metal out there doesn't count because it isn't 'real black metal', because it has done songs that were nearer to 'Death Metal' or have become slightly more mainstream.
These people see artists that mecome more mainstream as 'sell outs' and only listen to three or four bands because all the rest don't fit the quota and are therfore sh!t. Yes. All of them.

12: The fact that most of the people who slag off My Chemical Romance have obviously never heard them, and are just going by what their Cousin told them: Fair enough if you want to slate a song or band you've actually heard, but to slate one you've obviously only heard about is ridiculous. I know these people who hate MCR have never heard them, as they invariably say that their music is 'whiny, wrist-slitting music about suicide and how life's sooo unfair.' This is just not true, as anyone who has heard MCR will know.
I think a lot of people hate MCR because it's cool. These people are actually often the Black Metal Snobs mentioned above. These people hate sheep, people who do things just because they're cool and those who are closed-minded about music. I see the irony. They don't.
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Old 31-05-2008, 17:49
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Vocalists - mainly from English speaking countries other than the USA - who sing in a fake American (mid-Atlantic) accent.
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Old 31-05-2008, 17:57
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Cover versions. It's just lazy music and short changing the public.
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Old 31-05-2008, 18:10
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People who can't accept that some people have heard MCR and seen them live (i.e. me) and still think they're sh!t
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Old 31-05-2008, 18:15
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Cover versions that are just resung.

If you are going to be lazy with the words do something different with the music.
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Old 31-05-2008, 18:19
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1) Music Snobbery: People who claim their genre of music is better because it is made of real guitars and their songs have real meaning because they are autobiographical. Not only can music not be rated on that scale, I'd rather listen to Girls Aloud: Sexy! No No No than one of the generic bands singing about their 'real' pain.

2) Comparisons To Other Artists: Oh look its the new Amy Winehouse, the new Lily Allen. Just because a musical genre may be share, I think all artists should be looked at individually.

3) One Hit Wonders: Hearing a fast, catchy innovative song from a new artist, then buying their album to hear 10 mid-tempo balads

That's all I can think of atm!
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Old 31-05-2008, 19:10
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Radio stations that only play new music if it is either
a) by a 'cool' band
b) by a band thats 'cool'

yeah i'm talking about radio 1. they annoy me so much with the music they play, it's only ever the same singers, same songs over and over and over. It annoys me when really decent songs don't chart simply because radio stations never promote them.
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Old 31-05-2008, 19:12
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artists who just arent bothered anymore annoy me, most notably Westlife..admittedly I doubt i'd ever be a fan of theirs, but at least at the start of their career they were doing new songs like 'flying without wings' (which is a top class song, even if you don't like cheesy ballads) since then they've been on auto-pilot, and will completely murder any song going and release it just before Xmas. Its sad and annoying that the radio still plays these lazy covers..when even other boybands like Take That have shown that you can still release new songs and be a success.
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Old 31-05-2008, 19:14
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Radio stations that only play new music if it is either
a) by a 'cool' band
b) by a band thats 'cool'

yeah i'm talking about radio 1. they annoy me so much with the music they play, it's only ever the same singers, same songs over and over and over. It annoys me when really decent songs don't chart simply because radio stations never promote them.
radio1's OTT praise of every song they play annoys me, every song is "amazing" "breathtaking" I know they have to show enthusiasm to engage the listener, but they take it far too far all the time. And don't even get me started on the 'my boyfreind left me, then savagely ran over my sister and killed her, please play 'chasing cars' for me as it reminds me of the good times' type segment on Jo Whileys show! where she does that pretending to be concerned/interested voice!
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Old 31-05-2008, 19:14
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Can't stand female artists needing to be naked or half naked to sell records and impress.
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Old 31-05-2008, 19:20
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Can't stand female artists needing to be naked or half naked to sell records and impress.
but sadly it sells..

look at Nelly Furtado, she was destined to be only remembered for 'i'm like a bird' until she showed a bit more flesh and went urban. Nobody was interested in her more folky songs.

Its sad that they even had Leona Lewis (who seems quite boring and normal personality wise) trying to be sexy in the 'bleeding love' video.
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Old 31-05-2008, 19:22
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MY biggest pet hate is when people only listen to one type of music. Or those who claim to be "into music" but dont know who Wishbone Ash is
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Old 31-05-2008, 19:30
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My pet hate is not really the music but it is fans of a artist or band who jump on your back and say crap like you dont know music etc coz you say you dont like a song from who they like.

IMO They just sound like little kids in a primary school playground going on about how my dads better than your dad.
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Old 31-05-2008, 19:34
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My pet hate is not really the music but it is fans of a artist or band who jump on your back and say crap like you dont know music etc coz you say you dont like a song from who they like.

IMO They just sound like little kids in a primary school playground going on about how my dads better than your dad.

I am a true music fan. One moment I can be listening to Hendrix or Deep Purple or Slayer or Metallica and then the next its Sinatra or Louis Prima or Keely Smith.

Maybe you should broaden your musical taste
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Old 31-05-2008, 20:15
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I am a true music fan. One moment I can be listening to Hendrix or Deep Purple or Slayer or Metallica and then the next its Sinatra or Louis Prima or Keely Smith.

Maybe you should broaden your musical taste

What planet are you on????

Just because I dont like a song and says so then gets jumped on by fans of that artist does not mean I dont have a broad taste in music as I never said I didnt like the artist. I just dont like it when fans act as if they are the know all and be all of music.

PS for you iinformation I like everything from Sam Cook to Boys II Men, Metallica to 3 Doors Down, Backstreet Boys to Bee Gees etc the only kind of music I dont like is opera.

Maybe you should re-read my first post. as you have completetly not understood what it was about.
Better still I help you its about fans thinking because they like them they know better than everyone else. That is my pet hate.

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Old 31-05-2008, 20:22
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but sadly it sells..

look at Nelly Furtado, she was destined to be only remembered for 'i'm like a bird' until she showed a bit more flesh and went urban. Nobody was interested in her more folky songs.

Its sad that they even had Leona Lewis (who seems quite boring and normal personality wise) trying to be sexy in the 'bleeding love' video.
I think it is a shame and a bad example for the new generation it was bad enough 20 years ago but this takes the cookie.
I also detest these manufactured pop sensations from tv shows.
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Old 31-05-2008, 21:00
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People who can't accept that some people have heard MCR and seen them live (i.e. me) and still think they're sh!t
*Happily skips into ShiftyDundee's trap*

I don't mind people slagging off MCR if they've actually heard them. It's when they make it obvious that they haven't, but slag them off anyway, that annoys me.
If somebody says MCR's music is 'whiny music about how unfair life is and self-harm and suicide' then it is clear that they haven't heard them and are only going by what they've heard about them. As a result, they are in no position to judge.

This would also apply to any other band, but I've only ever seen MCR judged like this.

*Pulls rope ladder from back pocket and climbs back out of the trap quicksharp*
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Old 31-05-2008, 21:10
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Radio stations that only play new music if it is either
a) by a 'cool' band
b) by a band thats 'cool'

yeah i'm talking about radio 1. they annoy me so much with the music they play, it's only ever the same singers, same songs over and over and over. It annoys me when really decent songs don't chart simply because radio stations never promote them.
One of my musical pet hates is people who moan about Radio 1 probably because they only listen to it in the daytime. They may listen up to Scott Mills in the afternoon, but then turn off in the evening to watch the soaps or whatever trash is on tv, or maybe play their own music or go on the internet.

Day time Radio 1 music is determined by playlists and I will admit that it is not all great. But from Zane Lowe at seven in the evening and onwards it is very different.

Shows like this one > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/innewmus...t/huwstephens/

show how passionate Radio 1 is about new music.
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Old 31-05-2008, 23:08
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My pet hate is the fact that Bic Runga is still vitually unheard of in this country
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Old 31-05-2008, 23:09
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Jo Wiley's Live Lounge. Every single song is 'amazing'. She even had Girls Aloud in and i swear not one of them was in tune, it sounded awful and she just went on and on about how good they were

Worse is the cover versions part, they're always drooled over when most of the time they're just a good song sung badly by another band

ETA: And i'll also add to the hate for that godawful Rockstar song!
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Old 31-05-2008, 23:17
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That old CD1, CD2 malarkey always got my dander up.

Drove Loz Hardy of Kingmaker to a breakdown.
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Old 31-05-2008, 23:43
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One of my musical pet hates is people who moan about Radio 1 probably because they only listen to it in the daytime. They may listen up to Scott Mills in the afternoon, but then turn off in the evening to watch the soaps or whatever trash is on tv, or maybe play their own music or go on the internet.

Day time Radio 1 music is determined by playlists and I will admit that it is not all great. But from Zane Lowe at seven in the evening and onwards it is very different.

Shows like this one > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/innewmus...t/huwstephens/

show how passionate Radio 1 is about new music.
yeah thats all fair enough. Maybe if radio 1 actually mixed their daytime up with a bit of what they play in the evenings it might make for an all round better station. I stopped listening to radio 1 a while ago. It was like Groundhog Day...
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Old 01-06-2008, 00:22
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[LIST][*]When a band/singer releases a song which is a cover and forever after people think the cover is the original (re: Valerie by Mark Ronson and Amy Winehouse).[*]Oasis[*]Bad musicians who slag off other musicians and think themselves 'credible' (e.g. James Blunt).[*]When a shit song is popularised by an advert[*]When I don't get why a song is really popular[/LIST]
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Old 01-06-2008, 00:25
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Turquoise, I would just like to join you in a rant about

1)That sort of American rock that sounds like glorified McFly:
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1) The 'American rock' that sounds little better than glorified McFly or dare I say it, Busted records. This has been a particular pet hate of mine for many years, particularly when fans that I have encountered tell me it is "Punk." YEAH RIGHT! Punk was a movement that happened 30 years ago now and the true Punk music was the political, anti-establishment stuff that wouldn't get played on daytime radio. It was a very short movement and it evolved and fused very quickly with other genres - for instance, reggae and ska; the mod-revival stuff from the 60s; heavy metal; electronic music with lots of synths and drum machines and in some cases, disco! A lot of the bands who did get played on the radio at the time were not truly Punk and were probably better classed as "New Wave" and a lot of the bands post 1977 are "post-punk" and this then breaks down into other genres.

So, what makes me really irritated by people telling me bands such as Blink 182 are "punk" is that quite frankly, their stuff is too pop orientated and WILL get played on daytime radio. There is nothing anti-establishment about songs like "All the small things" - oh sorry, the line "work sucks" maybe? Yeah right!

I think describing a lot of the American stuff as little better than glorified McFly records is an accurate description. Different stylists maybe, perhaps they turn the distortion up a little bit, but yeah, no better in musical terms. Bands like Sum 41 and Good Charlotte frequently irritated me at their peak - uninventive lyrics, pretty poor guitar playing even by the Sex Pistols standards for the most part!

Right then...

2) Rap.

I happen to be a fan of Rap up until about the stuff that was churned out after 1996/7. The majority of stuff in recent years has been pretty dire compared to the quality beats coming out in the 80s and early 90s. This whole "gangster" culture harping on about "da ho's" and such like is SOOOO BORING. It is refreshing to hear stuff that isn't like that, but it never gets anywhere these days. I think the poetry from a lot of the early rap days has long gone. I still listen to my Public Enemy, De La Soul and Tribe Called Quest albums - brilliant poetry, great beats, not all about guns and ho's and far better samples too. Rap was quite simply fun in the old days, even the more socially aware stuff. These days the majority of it is FAR too slow, doesn't really inspire you to dance and has little fun in it at all.

Another rant I fancy making tonight is about

3) How so much modern music leaves me feeling cold!

I am only in my early 20s and by my reckoning that should mean hardly past the point of being able to say "oh this modern stuff is nothing compared to what we had" like my grandparents would. However, I really struggle to find stuff I like anymore and it is not from lack of trying. I listen to the specialist programmes and a variety of radio stations including specialist ones; I listen to stuff from unsigned bands every now and then; I go to watch live music; I listen to some world music (probably the only constant area I can find something I like these days) but hardly anything grips me anymore like it used to.

I've gone through phases, I will admit, but around 1998-1999, I really got back into modern music for about 3-4 years and then around the 2003/2004 mark, I started losing a bit of interest and now, pretty much most things I hear just don't do a thing for more.

I know a lot of people who rant on about all these upcoming singer-songwriters we have but to me they all sound the same and I just can't find anything to like.

I don't know whether it is because the industry is playing it too safely or whether pop music (used in a wide sense to distinguish it from say jazz) has run out of ideas. I can quite easily listen to stuff from the 40s up to about the 90s all day everyday and not get bored. I just don't know what the problem is!
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Old 01-06-2008, 00:33
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Day time Radio 1 music is determined by playlists and I will admit that it is not all great. But from Zane Lowe at seven in the evening and onwards it is very different.

I totally agree with you. If you had asked me around 14 or 15 years ago whether I would be listening more to the shows after 7pm on Radio 1 than the daytime in 2008, I would have said "not likely." I was always of the opinion when I was younger that things got a bit too weird after 7pm on Radio 1. However, in my quest to find some modern music I actually like today, I started listening after 7pm quite a bit about 6 or 7 years ago and realised I actually prefer the programmes in the evening now, AND the presenters, but that is another matter!

Radio 1's daytime music is little different from the stuff that the rival commercial outfits (and I include XFM in that category) are playing, and the sad thing is, if you listen right from breakfast up until what I class as drivetime these days, you will hear the majority of the A-list every show. I can't recall the music being as limited during the daytime in the Bannister era or just before that in the days when Steve Wright and Simon Bates were still on.
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