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I am ANGRY with John and Denise
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piper333
31-05-2008
thanks to an article posted, that states that JB and DVO broke down sobbing when Rachel was kicked out makes me so mad.

I know Rachel should have been saved as well, that isn't the point.

First it was the holding hands and probably showing the "uhhhhhhhhh" look when Jessie was saved and now this?

This is totally unprofessional and it is one thing for opinions, but when it comes to results, if they cannot show impartialiaty and go off like this, they should not be judges

now, (thanks jackbauer) this was done after the show. it is still unprofessional afterward as well imo. there are other girls left in the competition. and this being written about means it was seen, regardless and is awful



THIS IS MORE ABOUT THE SOBBING THAN HAND HOLDING
kates89
31-05-2008
I really despise them both after that pathetic hand holding last week.
jackbauer<3
31-05-2008
I would love to hold hands with JB LOL
westlifefan123
31-05-2008
Originally Posted by jackbauer<3:
“I would love to hold hands with JB LOL”

Yeah me too. He's hot, and so what if he did that OK, he was showing how he felt after the result. So get over all the complaining, all this complaining about John is REALLY getting on my nerves, so PLEASE cut it out!!!!

From Hayley
piper333
31-05-2008
Originally Posted by westlifefan123:
“Yeah me too. He's hot, and so what if he did that OK, he was showing how he felt after the result. So get over all the complaining, all this complaining about John is REALLY getting on my nerves, so PLEASE cut it out!!!!

From Hayley”

oh ffs, i LOVE john and will be seeing him in Toronto for HDYSAPLM. it isn't about him as a person... it is about the actions of a judge, and i think those actions are unprofessional. if it were anyone else, i would say the same thing.
islastar
31-05-2008
Originally Posted by westlifefan123:
“Yeah me too. He's hot, and so what if he did that OK, he was showing how he felt after the result. So get over all the complaining, all this complaining about John is REALLY getting on my nerves, so PLEASE cut it out!!!!

From Hayley”

If he acted in a less biased manner we wouldn't have to complain. It's not professional to show your feelings on TV if it's disappointment when your favourite didn't get through. He's meant to be impartial. Just because he's hot doesn't mean he can act however he wants.
ESPIONdansant
31-05-2008
Hey, they held hands. They were tense. It makes good TV.

If they just sit there like stones people will say: Look, at them. They just don't care. Can't they even pretend to be interested?

They don't like Jessie. Cam doesn't want Jodie. Sam was bottom 2.

That's life.
Babo
31-05-2008
There have been displays of favouratism all through the show - what's new?
kates89
31-05-2008
Originally Posted by westlifefan123:
“Yeah me too. He's hot, and so what if he did that OK, he was showing how he felt after the result. So get over all the complaining, all this complaining about John is REALLY getting on my nerves, so PLEASE cut it out!!!!

From Hayley”

I've never once told someone to 'get over it' on here because everyone is allowed their opinion on the show/contestants. We are free to post our feelings on something and shouldn't have to be told to cut it out.
jackbauer<3
31-05-2008
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“Hey, they held hands. They were tense. It makes good TV.

If they just sit there like stones people will say: Look, at them. They just don't care. Can't they even pretend to be interested?

They don't like Jessie. Cam doesn't want Jodie. Sam was bottom 2.

That's life.”

I agree - if they were all perfect how boring would it ebe? We'd have about 6 threads on here
indigomoon
31-05-2008
Originally Posted by islastar:
“If he acted in a less biased manner we wouldn't have to complain. It's not professional to show your feelings on TV if it's disappointment when your favourite didn't get through. He's meant to be impartial. Just because he's hot doesn't mean he can act however he wants.”

The OTT hand holding in tight grasp meant that as well as wishing very hard for one girl to go through, they were wishing very hard for one not to. At best very bad judgement, lacking in professionalism and just not very nice!
piper333
31-05-2008
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“Hey, they held hands. They were tense. It makes good TV.

If they just sit there like stones people will say: Look, at them. They just don't care. Can't they even pretend to be interested?

They don't like Jessie. Cam doesn't want Jodie. Sam was bottom 2.

That's life.”

it's more the sobbing bit ESPION and jackbauer , after the show. that is bloody ridiculous and very immature and not partial behaviour. if you think this is just normal and fine for a judge, i am surprised. the other judges is a good comment, because i am sure ALW, Cam or Barry weren't jumping up and down or showing any sort of emotion behind the scenes. if ALW and Cam fought as reported, a bit different.
ESPIONdansant
31-05-2008
I'm afraid that it is all probably hyped up.
The SCD judges got very @rsey during the least series. Much more controversial with Len being obnoxious.

I believe they are instructed to do this to keep people watching.
Why is Cowell so successful DESPITE being so unpleasant?
Actually that's why a lot of people like him! Not I.
But to a lot of people it shows he's got b@lls blah blah blah.

The audience are free to boo and hiss and all that stuff.

Days of good manners and restraint are long gone.I regret it but I don't know how to turn the clock back and I'm still watching these shows in spite of my distaste.
kates89
31-05-2008
To be fair as well, JB and DvO have no vested interest in who wins really. Obviously CM does as it's his production as does ALW because IDA has been 'his' show and if the winner goes on to be amazing on the west end obviously he will get some credit for that too. Therefore in my mind JB and DvO should stop sniveling and be more professional.
CASPER1066
31-05-2008
its part of their routine...........they did the same with Daniel..in fact I think it was John who stomped off the set.......
jackbauer<3
31-05-2008
The GBP just lap this sort of thing up. The heightened drama and tension, the leaks and squabbles, are all for the GBP to devour.

Anyone read Pop Idol? A great book.
CASPER1066
31-05-2008
yea they think we are real stupid............................
piper333
31-05-2008
Originally Posted by jackbauer<3:
“The GBP just lap this sort of thing up. The heightened drama and tension, the leaks and squabbles, are all for the GBP to devour.

Anyone read Pop Idol? A great book.”

but if no one saw the sobbing because it was done off stage, then how is it for the public?

i agree with the hand holding, as naff as it looked, it was all for tv
ESPIONdansant
31-05-2008
Didn't the FM who was there last week say there was a stunned silence from the audience when Jessie went through?

Coz they were all expecting her to be in the sing-off?

I definitely read that here.
CASPER1066
31-05-2008
I think it was coz no one boo when Jessie was mentioned so they thought she would be in the sing off........
piper333
31-05-2008
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“Didn't the FM who was there last week say there was a stunned silence from the audience when Jessie went through?

Coz they were all expecting her to be in the sing-off?

I definitely read that here.”

i think also, with the "who isn't nancy" questions they booed for when Jodie was mentioned but no booing for when Jessie was.
ESPIONdansant
31-05-2008
I always get the details wrong.
Sorry.
But I know the point was that the studio audience thought Jessie was not that great.

But it's the TV viewers whose vote counts. So I can take my ball home because I'm not playing if Jessie wins...
CASPER1066
31-05-2008
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“QUOTE=piper333;24115949]i think also, with the "who isn't nancy" questions they booed for when Jodie was mentioned but no booing for when Jessie was.”

[/quote]

snap..........


sorry if I didnt like your brother........
Flamethrower100
31-05-2008
Or maybe they were a bit upset that the girl that they both said wasn't Nancy actualy got through.
I was laughing so much.
ESPIONdansant
31-05-2008
Mad. BOTH "not Nancys" went through!
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