I don't understand why it matters so much that Jodie isn't stick-thin. Was Pavarotti a nice, slim young man when singing La Traviatta? Of course he wasn't, he never was, but hey, he's a MAN, so his weight doesn't matter!

Double standards or what?

point is .......the public dont agree with you........so congratulate Jodie and let it go..............

You know, it's so nice to have a real expert in the acting profession on here to set us all right. I'd never thought of Jodie for Eastenders, probably because there's no singing in it, but perhaps you've got something there!

Shame about the spelling, though.

Another thread about Jodie's weight.... *yawn*

Yeah i was never calling her fat though, i'm 13 stone so if i was the words pot kettle black come to mind

now she had won.....just watch her..............she will blow them away...she has the grit and determination to do it..............thats a fact

Perhaps you should buy a ticket to watch the show and you might change your opinion.

Casper, Cameron said she was lacking the grit

Can we all join the real world here and stop with the 'real woman' rubbish? It's tough in showbiz.

Pavarotti had a big voice and he was a big man as are a lot of opera singers. Glamour isn't essential to opera.

Maria Callas was an exception.

But in the West End glamour is pretty much bloody essential along with the voice and everything else.

I can see Jodie coping with Nancy. She could do a good Mama Morton in Chicago. But she ain't going to go onto any other lead role in musicals that I can think of that call for a knockout figure along with singing and dancing.

Why are people attacking lady_raven spelling skills? I think it just shows their lack of manners and arrogance.

Well said as far are they know i could be dyslexic

lady_raven...you really remind me of someone..........

I am dyslexic and find it highly offensive that you use that excuse to cover for your basic ignorance.

I've succumbed - I was up late last night when this post first appeared and tried to treat it with the contempt it deserved by ignoring it.

There's been oodles of much heated debate/opinion on characterisation of this role.

IMO, this is Oliver! NOT Oliver Twist...heard the term 'Artistic Licence'?

As for attacking the spelling skills of the OP, I would say Lady Raven stuck her neck out too far over the parapet over some of her 'issues' and guess what? She quite rightly got it in the neck. What else did she expect?

Sorry if you want people to take you seriously - make sure your grammar is correct.

yes in a song where she couldnt show grit..........the grit im talking about is the life experience grit she will bring to the role...........

she has 6 months...........lets see what she does in them

So my point is irrelevant because of one grammer mistake? Aren't you very picky? Maybe it's not that my post has grammer mistakes but actually my point that is the problem for you?

If Jodie needs to lose weight, she will. Not all of the previous Nancies have been stick insects either! Personally I will judge when I actually see her in the role, which she won't be appearing in for another 6 months - plenty of time to lose weight if the director and producer find it necessary.

Im just trying to imagine what she is going to be like.

I;m not I have ceribal pausy though so I can be slow at times and find it hard to work things out at times including spelling a lot of words correctly

Why are people so obsessed with putting the poor girl into her next role before she has even began rehearsing for the 1st one lol? Give her a chance! If she needs/wants to lose weight she will. If she wants another West End role after Nancy, I'm sure she will do whatever she needs to do.

As for Mama Morton being the only role for normal sized women - that is ridiculous. Yes, normal sized women will usually get character roles rather than leading lady, but so what? NOT all roles out there require the actress to be stick thin, and on the whole STAMINA is of the most importance, moreso than weight. Depending on what she wants to concentrate on, if she wants to continue a theatrical career, then she has proven she is more than capable of losing weight if she wants to.

There are different levels of dyslexia, the term isn't the be all and end all of a condition.

If that's true then you shoud be credited for having the confidence to post regularly on a forum that, while it isn't the most vicious I've ever come across, can be less than forgiving either.

If it isn't true then only you can justify to yourself faking such a disability to excuse inaccuracies in your posts.

Sorry if I sound cynical. Reading forum messages can make you so. I hope you're genuine and if so, keep posting (even though I don't particularly agree with your sentiments).

I do agree and the big hollywood movie was a lot of fantasy. all of those girls, even Shani was thin with peaches and cream skin.

the men seemed thin though eating the same and drinking.. if they just drank they would be thin like severe alcoholics are.

a funny note... in other eras ... the very poor were thin and the way the rich showed their wealth was to be very fat as they did eat rich creams, foods, etc.

now a days...the rich are thin and the poor who have to eat cheap crap get fat.

another great point was made about the size of Bill and it to look believable that he would rough her up a lot. i personally would believe it, because it is in the acting, not the size difference. but audiences are so visually cerebral *they never portray these poor urchins as fat do they? ever.