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Jessie's Performance of ALAHNM bloody brilliant .
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CASPER1066
01-06-2008
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Originally Posted by geogchick:
“I think he has made it clear that he wouldn't want to work with her anyway.

Can I remind people this is a rumour and we don't know what happened.

It could have been the JB went over to her and was being fake....and Jessie didn't want to know.

I think JB has been completely unprofessional in this programme and prob lost the part for Jessie. emotions were running high - I can understand why it was said. I don't imagine he just went over to him and said it”
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Yes post 71 states .........if true...........

I think JB would help Jessie he was talking about her professionally not personally. The public could see what JB did and agreed. Its always best for family to stay out of it. It does no one any good.
Barry101
01-06-2008
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“Yes post 71 states .........if true...........

I think JB would help Jessie he was talking about her professionally not personally. The public could see what JB did and agreed. Its always best for family to stay out of it. It does no one any good.”


Yes he may help her.
Personally, I would not work again with anyone that had 'stabbed me in the back' no matter how good an opportunity it may appear. But maybe Jessie would take the chance -- 'turn the other cheek' and all that.

And I thought that she took the result very well -- perhaps not as emotionally fragile as I expected.
kazmson
01-06-2008
Or maybe JB propositioned the poor man ....all ve knows is nathing
jackier
01-06-2008
I'm sorry, Jessie's ALAHNM did not strike me as brilliant - I much preferred Rachel's last week. For me this was more convincing and emotional.
Jessie had the best voice (after Sarah had gone but she was better suited for the role than Sarah). I didn't think John was particularly harsh on her - at least his comments were constructive (I don't think BH made a single constructive comment in the whole series!). I also didn't think John and Denise's celebrations were over the top and would agree with an earlier comment that it was refreshing to see a split panel. Give Jessie further training and a few more years and she will get to the West End, now was just not her time. Jodie (who was never a particular favourite of mine) is ready and will do an excellent job - good luck to her and a well deserved victory. I also thought her final ALAHNM was full of emotion and a delight to listen to.
CASPER1066
01-06-2008
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Originally Posted by Barry101:
“Yes he may help her.
Personally, I would not work again with anyone that had 'stabbed me in the back' no matter how good an opportunity it may appear. But maybe Jessie would take the chance -- 'turn the other cheek' and all that.

And I thought that she took the result very well -- perhaps not as emotionally fragile as I expected.”
”

JB and DVO both agreed Jessie was not Nancy for inconsistancy reasons, I think DVO agreed. Professionals dont take it personal. Jessie will not be right for many a role she will get used to it. Your over reacting with the stabbing in the back............they were doing the job they were paid to do...........judge.
Barry101
01-06-2008
Casper, I have no problem with the comments of DVO.

JB was on another level.
Given that she could not do 'fighter' - do you think that she was more inconsistent than anyone else (except Jodie)?

Nearly everyone was inconsistent - they chose some songs to show them off and some songs to challenge them. This is clearly a recipe for inconsistancy.

When Rachel performed cabaret brilliantly - did JB say "excellent, but it shows how inconsistent you are"? No.
Tissy
01-06-2008
Originally Posted by PuzzlePony:
“Jessie was her best ever last night...

whether she was better than Jodie or not is irrelevant.

However - JB and DVO, as performers (Again, personal skills irrelevant) know that in casting, if you present as inconsistent over 3 callbacks/auditions you ain't likely to be recalled a 4th time surely?

To have championed Jessie in the face of her inconsistency surely, despite her flashes of 'fire', must go against the grain of the industry and would have been a massive contradiction in typical casting procedure. (Never mind hugely risky)

I know nothing about the industry but that's how it seems to moi ”


Confusing isnt it the performers dont back her because they say she`s inconsistent and yet the big guns who probably do the casting want her over someone who is consistent !
Onwards&Upwards
01-06-2008
To me, Jessie's rendition of ALAHNM encapsulated utterly perfectly the young, raw, misguided passion of Nancy.

That was precisely what CM was alluding to when he said "Jessie IS Nancy".

Someone accused me of calling the result a travesty last night when in actual fact I called it a shambles,

but in the cold light of day, I must agree with my accuser.

Have a great career Jessie.
mickeymouse18
01-06-2008
[quote=Onwards&Upwards;24160200]To me, Jessie's rendition of ALAHNM encapsulated utterly perfectly the young, raw, misguided passion of Nancy.

That was precisely what CM was alluding to when he said "Jessie IS Nancy".

brilliant, somes up Jessie perfectly, I'm gutted we won't get to see her play nancy
CASPER1066
01-06-2008
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Originally Posted by Barry101:
“Casper, I have no problem with the comments of DVO.

JB was on another level.
Given that she could not do 'fighter' - do you think that she was more inconsistent than anyone else (except Jodie)?

Nearly everyone was inconsistent - they chose some songs to show them off and some songs to challenge them. This is clearly a recipe for inconsistancy.

When Rachel performed cabaret brilliantly - did JB say "excellent, but it shows how inconsistent you are"? No.”
”

out of the last three finalist she was the most inconsistant performer yes. She has a great voice but thats it. She sung some mediocre some appallying and maybe two great performances. She would never get called back for a second audition at that standard.

Jessie got ballads most of the time, when they saw how bad she was in stage grace, they stood her still or sat her down. JB comments meant, when you are good your brilliant but when you are bad your awful. The audience dont want a maybe, they want a certainty. Jessie was never that.

As a leading man he wanted to be sure as his leading lady she would deliver every time......he felt at this time she could not.
CASPER1066
01-06-2008
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Originally Posted by Tissy:
“Confusing isnt it the performers dont back her because they say she`s inconsistent and yet the big guns who probably do the casting want her over someone who is consistent !”
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yes ALW and Cam see potential...something which is not there now............but hope it will come.

what happens if it doesnt......what happens if she crashed and burned.........Jodie was the full package.
PorkSausage
01-06-2008
I don't know. Even a Jessie appreciation thread turn into a "Isn't Jodie fantastic" thread.

She's won. She did well. Give it a break. Move on.
nancy1975
01-06-2008
Originally Posted by PorkSausage:
“I don't know. Even a Jessie appreciation thread turn into a "Isn't Jodie fantastic" thread.

She's won. She did well. Give it a break.”

I do have to wonder why they constantly need to justify her winning...if she really was the 'full package' I'd have been out digging the garden today and not caring less.

I have several times through the series said here and there Jessie needed to improve this or that...also how great she was at a certain song but I'd never gone on and on how fantastically wonderful she is as a performer and all round human being.
CASPER1066
01-06-2008
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Originally Posted by nancy1975:
“I do have to wonder why they constantly need to justify her winning...if she really was the 'full package' I'd have been out digging the garden today and not caring less.

I have several times through the series said here and there Jessie needed to improve this or that...also how great she was at a certain song but I'd never gone on and on how fantastically wonderful she is as a performer and all round human being.”
”

its 11pm at night and been pissing down with rain all day.
Diorelli
01-06-2008
I think no matter who won, there will be this thread and discussion. Afterall, this is a public forum, overanalysing each word and action of the judges and contestants are its lifeblood. I'm going to bet that the people who say to get over it will be the same people saying that the right girl didn't win if Sam/Jessie won.
nancy1975
01-06-2008
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“its 11pm at night and been pissing down with rain all day.”

It was dry here this afternoon, thank you.
kazmson
01-06-2008
I think to be fair to ALW + Cam (and Jessie) .....they weren't guessing at her potential they recognised a quality that Jessie does have right now ...and which she demonstrated in the final....vocal power and the ability fuse that with a very natural emotional truth on stage.....

Both AWL + Cam were betting that in the intervening 6months they could give her the training and technique in order to deliver these type of performances consistently.

Personally I don't disagree with them. Jodie will be good but different... and I don't think any of the girls really were the full package right now.......the nearest was probably Rachel.

But last night I really saw that Jessie could be the most potentially exciting Nancy.

IMO her duet with Gwion was the best performance we've seen on any of these shows (including HDYSAPLM and ADWD)
geogchick
01-06-2008
Originally Posted by nancy1975:
“I do have to wonder why they constantly need to justify her winning...if she really was the 'full package' I'd have been out digging the garden today and not caring less.
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Very well put.
nancy1975
01-06-2008
Originally Posted by geogchick:
“Very well put.
”

One last note....Jessie is Truly Scrumptious.
Tissy
01-06-2008
Originally Posted by kazmson:
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Personally I don't disagree with them. Jodie will be fab but different... and I don't think any of the girls really were the full package right now.......the nearest was probably Rachel.”

Agree
CASPER1066
01-06-2008
[quote]
Originally Posted by kazmson:
“I think to be fair to ALW + Cam (and Jessie) .....they weren't guessing at her potential they recognised a quality that Jessie does have right now ...and which she demonstrated in the final....vocal power and the ability fuse that with a very natural emotional truth on stage.....

Both AWL + Cam were betting that in the intervening 6months they could give her the training and technique in order to deliver these type of performances consistently.

Personally I don't disagree with them. Jodie will be fab but different... and I don't think any of the girls really were the full package right now.......the nearest was probably Rachel.[/QUOTE]”

I didnt warm to Rachel at all..............I preferred Sarah
mickeymouse18
01-06-2008
Originally Posted by kazmson:
“I think to be fair to ALW + Cam (and Jessie) .....they weren't guessing at her potential they recognised a quality that Jessie does have right now ...and which she demonstrated in the final....vocal power and the ability fuse that with a very natural emotional truth on stage.....

Both AWL + Cam were betting that in the intervening 6months they could give her the training and technique in order to deliver these type of performances consistently.

Personally I don't disagree with them. Jodie will be good but different... and I don't think any of the girls really were the full package right now.......the nearest was probably Rachel.

But last night I really saw that Jessie could be the most potentially exciting Nancy.

IMO her duet with Gwion was the best performance we've seen on any of these shows (including HDYSAPLM and ADWD)”

brilliant post, couldn't agree more
kazmson
02-06-2008
Originally Posted by mickeymouse18:
“brilliant post, couldn't agree more ”

You know over the last few weeks I'd been noticing Jessie more ... she was getting more watchable ....weirdly enough just as JB started becoming more unconvinced by her

I was really neutral about who should win before the final...and now regardless of the competition even...... Jessie absolutely blew me away on Saturday and I wasn't expecting it at all...it was great to see someone perform like that.
mickeymouse18
02-06-2008
Originally Posted by kazmson:
“You know over the last few weeks I'd been noticing Jessie more ... she was getting more watchable ....weirdly enough just as JB started becoming more unconvinced by her

I was really neutral about who should win before the final...and now regardless of the competition even...... Jessie absolutely blew me away on Saturday and I wasn't expecting it at all...it was great to see someone perform like that. ”

aww I'm glad you feel like that! She is definitely a star
Tangledweb7
02-06-2008
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“yes ALW and Cam see potential...something which is not there now............but hope it will come.

what happens if it doesnt......what happens if she crashed and burned.........Jodie was the full package.”

It wo'nt happen your so negative she is young she will be a success and the westend will see it.
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