Originally Posted by coda:
“Jodie won. Get over it.”
“Jodie won. Get over it.”
Jodie was great last night, but doesn't have anywhere near Jessie's talent. Jessie will play Nancy, and become the star that she deserves to be
More often than not.... the loser wins !!!
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Jodie was great last night, but doesn't have anywhere near Jessie's talent. Jessie will play Nancy, and become the star that she deserves to be
Originally Posted by tabithakitten:
“Not in the film he didn't. He was dubbed - picked purely on looks.”
“Not in the film he didn't. He was dubbed - picked purely on looks.”
so true and this also happened in My Fair Lady... Julie Andrews lost the part to Audrey Hepburn and Audrey's singing was dubbed by someone else the whole movie.
Originally Posted by dragonrider:
“Sorry to to tell you but Kathe Green sang for Mark Lester in Oliver his voice was dubbed.
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“Sorry to to tell you but Kathe Green sang for Mark Lester in Oliver his voice was dubbed.
”
Hi sorry not sure how this post got on here it was an answer to another thread.
I agree with smeagy's post earlier about how they will all be winners in the end. Each and every one in the final 12 did amazing to get where they did and what could be better exposure for them than a prime time reality tv contest.
From my point of view as a Jessie fan, she's been incredibly lucky to get to where she was. She didn't get into drama school and was in London at just the right time for the auditions. She's only 18 and has shown off her talent and has got the backing of big people.
Although I would have liked to see her win for winnings sake, I'm sure she will be Nancy one day, it seems to be in her to play Nancy. I was completely gutted for her but what's more important is not what happens but how you react to it and I know she will bounce back.
Aside from this, congrats to Jodie is in order, could there be a more wacky, loveable, crazy, warm, hilarious winner?! The girl done good.
From my point of view as a Jessie fan, she's been incredibly lucky to get to where she was. She didn't get into drama school and was in London at just the right time for the auditions. She's only 18 and has shown off her talent and has got the backing of big people.
Although I would have liked to see her win for winnings sake, I'm sure she will be Nancy one day, it seems to be in her to play Nancy. I was completely gutted for her but what's more important is not what happens but how you react to it and I know she will bounce back.
Aside from this, congrats to Jodie is in order, could there be a more wacky, loveable, crazy, warm, hilarious winner?! The girl done good.
Originally Posted by lady_raven:
“Jodie might or may not fade into obscurity when she finishes Oliver Twist, she may get something in Chicago but she could become another Mark Lester”
“Jodie might or may not fade into obscurity when she finishes Oliver Twist, she may get something in Chicago but she could become another Mark Lester”
Who??
Originally Posted by kates89:
“I agree with smeagy's post earlier about how they will all be winners in the end. Each and every one in the final 12 did amazing to get where they did and what could be better exposure for them than a prime time reality tv contest.
From my point of view as a Jessie fan, she's been incredibly lucky to get to where she was. She didn't get into drama school and was in London at just the right time for the auditions. She's only 18 and has shown off her talent and has got the backing of big people.
Although I would have liked to see her win for winnings sake, I'm sure she will be Nancy one day, it seems to be in her to play Nancy. I was completely gutted for her but what's more important is not what happens but how you react to it and I know she will bounce back.
Aside from this, congrats to Jodie is in order, could there be a more wacky, loveable, crazy, warm, hilarious winner?! The girl done good.”
“I agree with smeagy's post earlier about how they will all be winners in the end. Each and every one in the final 12 did amazing to get where they did and what could be better exposure for them than a prime time reality tv contest.
From my point of view as a Jessie fan, she's been incredibly lucky to get to where she was. She didn't get into drama school and was in London at just the right time for the auditions. She's only 18 and has shown off her talent and has got the backing of big people.
Although I would have liked to see her win for winnings sake, I'm sure she will be Nancy one day, it seems to be in her to play Nancy. I was completely gutted for her but what's more important is not what happens but how you react to it and I know she will bounce back.
Aside from this, congrats to Jodie is in order, could there be a more wacky, loveable, crazy, warm, hilarious winner?! The girl done good.”
great post, agree with everything
Originally Posted by bibitybobity:
“Jodie was great last night, but doesn't have anywhere near Jessie's talent. Jessie will play Nancy, and become the star that she deserves to be”
“Jodie was great last night, but doesn't have anywhere near Jessie's talent. Jessie will play Nancy, and become the star that she deserves to be”
No she will not, get over it please. JODIE WON. Stop being a sore loser.
Originally Posted by lady_raven:
“True but how many of them are actually really good, Will Young deft is and I quite like Connie Fisher, guess Shayne Ward is ok don't get me started on Paul Potts or Leona Lewis though and Lee Mead well Keith should have won Joseph”
“True but how many of them are actually really good, Will Young deft is and I quite like Connie Fisher, guess Shayne Ward is ok don't get me started on Paul Potts or Leona Lewis though and Lee Mead well Keith should have won Joseph”
Are you actually saying that you think Shayne Ward is better than Leona Lewis?
Mark Lester was the original Oliver in the film.
He did little after that.
No apparent connection with Jodie whatsoever!
Jodie will always be known - until she perhaps diversifies - as the Nancy-winner.Who knows about Jessie? All mere speculation.
But Jodie's place is secure.
He did little after that.
No apparent connection with Jodie whatsoever!
Jodie will always be known - until she perhaps diversifies - as the Nancy-winner.Who knows about Jessie? All mere speculation.
But Jodie's place is secure.
Originally Posted by bibitybobity:
“Jodie was great last night, but doesn't have anywhere near Jessie's talent. Jessie will play Nancy, and become the star that she deserves to be”
“Jodie was great last night, but doesn't have anywhere near Jessie's talent. Jessie will play Nancy, and become the star that she deserves to be”
I hate to break this to you. But Jodie won last night. She was better than Jessie, that's why the public chose her.
Jodie IS playing Nancy. Not Jessie.
Originally Posted by Mamaboogie:
“I hate to break this to you. But Jodie won last night. She was better than Jessie, that's why the public chose her.
Jodie IS playing Nancy. Not Jessie.”
“I hate to break this to you. But Jodie won last night. She was better than Jessie, that's why the public chose her.
Jodie IS playing Nancy. Not Jessie.”
A little subjective surely? She was more popular. Not necessarily better. She appealed to more voters. Sorry for being pedantic.
Originally Posted by tabithakitten:
“A little subjective surely? She was more popular. Not necessarily better. She appealed to more voters. Sorry for being pedantic.”
“A little subjective surely? She was more popular. Not necessarily better. She appealed to more voters. Sorry for being pedantic.”
Of the Nancy's they had left Jodie was probably the most ready at that stage but it was a poor bunch to choose from. Jodie as well did not met Camerons remit for the part. The new version of Oliver was meant to bring a new slant to it, instead they have a very tradditional Nancy. How they get Jodie to fit the remit of the show I dont know as she is a very long way from what they were looking for. They also stressed this was mainly an acting role and again Jodie is very weak with acting.
It seems they are already concerned as they have already reduced the Nancy role from 8 performances a week to 4 an to altering the script to reduce the role of Nncy. Seems they have there doubts about Jodie.
Originally Posted by Bob22A:
“Of the Nancy's they had left Jodie was probably the most ready at that stage but it was a poor bunch to choose from. Jodie as well did not met Camerons remit for the part. The new version of Oliver was meant to bring a new slant to it, instead they have a very tradditional Nancy. How they get Jodie to fit the remit of the show I dont know as she is a very long way from what they were looking for. They also stressed this was mainly an acting role and again Jodie is very weak with acting.
It seems they are already concerned as they have already reduced the Nancy role from 8 performances a week to 4 an to altering the script to reduce the role of Nncy. Seems they have there doubts about Jodie.”
“Of the Nancy's they had left Jodie was probably the most ready at that stage but it was a poor bunch to choose from. Jodie as well did not met Camerons remit for the part. The new version of Oliver was meant to bring a new slant to it, instead they have a very tradditional Nancy. How they get Jodie to fit the remit of the show I dont know as she is a very long way from what they were looking for. They also stressed this was mainly an acting role and again Jodie is very weak with acting.
It seems they are already concerned as they have already reduced the Nancy role from 8 performances a week to 4 an to altering the script to reduce the role of Nncy. Seems they have there doubts about Jodie.”
Bob, you'll be delighted to hear that as soon as Jodie was confirmed the winner, they've increased the guaranteed shows for the winning Nancy to 6 per week. Clearly they were never worried about HER ability then.
"As performances do not commence until 12 December, there is not a fully confirmed performance schedule for Nancy and Oliver. Due to licensing issues, it will not be decided which Oliver will perform until shortly before the performance starts. Sickness and holiday permitting, Jodie Prenger is scheduled to perform on Monday and Tuesday evenings, Wednesday matinees and Friday evenings and both Saturday Shows. Until the show opens in December, the Producers cannot make a final decision on any additonal performances. "
Originally Posted by Katie.:
“At least she'll be doing both Saturday performances.
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“At least she'll be doing both Saturday performances.
”
Originally Posted by Bob22A:
“Of the Nancy's they had left Jodie was probably the most ready at that stage but it was a poor bunch to choose from. Jodie as well did not met Camerons remit for the part. The new version of Oliver was meant to bring a new slant to it, instead they have a very tradditional Nancy. How they get Jodie to fit the remit of the show I dont know as she is a very long way from what they were looking for. They also stressed this was mainly an acting role and again Jodie is very weak with acting.
It seems they are already concerned as they have already reduced the Nancy role from 8 performances a week to 4 an to altering the script to reduce the role of Nncy. Seems they have there doubts about Jodie.”
“Of the Nancy's they had left Jodie was probably the most ready at that stage but it was a poor bunch to choose from. Jodie as well did not met Camerons remit for the part. The new version of Oliver was meant to bring a new slant to it, instead they have a very tradditional Nancy. How they get Jodie to fit the remit of the show I dont know as she is a very long way from what they were looking for. They also stressed this was mainly an acting role and again Jodie is very weak with acting.
It seems they are already concerned as they have already reduced the Nancy role from 8 performances a week to 4 an to altering the script to reduce the role of Nncy. Seems they have there doubts about Jodie.”
Urgh ... this had already been put onto the Oliver website PRIOR to any of the three winning - so it has very little to do with Jodie ... and you have no basis of foundation for the 'they have reduced the role' ...
Okay so they have ended up with a more traditional Nancy, but with all due respect Jodie did very well in the acting missions.
It all just gets so spiteful ....
Originally Posted by Golden anemone:
“Bob, you'll be delighted to hear that as soon as Jodie was confirmed the winner, they've increased the guaranteed shows for the winning Nancy to 6 per week. Clearly they were never worried about HER ability then.
"As performances do not commence until 12 December, there is not a fully confirmed performance schedule for Nancy and Oliver. Due to licensing issues, it will not be decided which Oliver will perform until shortly before the performance starts. Sickness and holiday permitting, Jodie Prenger is scheduled to perform on Monday and Tuesday evenings, Wednesday matinees and Friday evenings and both Saturday Shows. Until the show opens in December, the Producers cannot make a final decision on any additonal performances. "”
“Bob, you'll be delighted to hear that as soon as Jodie was confirmed the winner, they've increased the guaranteed shows for the winning Nancy to 6 per week. Clearly they were never worried about HER ability then.
"As performances do not commence until 12 December, there is not a fully confirmed performance schedule for Nancy and Oliver. Due to licensing issues, it will not be decided which Oliver will perform until shortly before the performance starts. Sickness and holiday permitting, Jodie Prenger is scheduled to perform on Monday and Tuesday evenings, Wednesday matinees and Friday evenings and both Saturday Shows. Until the show opens in December, the Producers cannot make a final decision on any additonal performances. "”
Fantastic news.
Can people just stop being so vindictive against Jodie ...
If your favourite didn't win then go and support them in whatever they do next ... and let Jodie get on with playing the role she won and is now going to be doing 6 times a week
I agree that quite often the runners up do really well too.
Look at Ben-James Ellis in Hairspray and Daniel Boys in Avenue Q. Both very substantial (if not leading) roles.
One minor point - if Jodie didn't fit Cameron's remit - why did they put her into the Top 12? She wasn't the only larger lady either was she?
Look at Ben-James Ellis in Hairspray and Daniel Boys in Avenue Q. Both very substantial (if not leading) roles.
One minor point - if Jodie didn't fit Cameron's remit - why did they put her into the Top 12? She wasn't the only larger lady either was she?
Originally Posted by EJ1:
“I agree that quite often the runners up do really well too.
Look at Ben-James Ellis in Hairspray and Daniel Boys in Avenue Q. Both very substantial (if not leading) roles.
One minor point - if Jodie didn't fit Cameron's remit - why did they put her into the Top 12? She wasn't the only larger lady either was she?”
“I agree that quite often the runners up do really well too.
Look at Ben-James Ellis in Hairspray and Daniel Boys in Avenue Q. Both very substantial (if not leading) roles.
One minor point - if Jodie didn't fit Cameron's remit - why did they put her into the Top 12? She wasn't the only larger lady either was she?”
Daniel's role in Ave Q is the male lead ... Ben's the juvenile lead in Hairspray.
Both very talented guys doing brilliantly.
Originally Posted by EJ1:
“They were my two favourites!! I didn't mean to undervalue their achievements...”
“They were my two favourites!! I didn't mean to undervalue their achievements...
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I didn't think you were at all ... they were my two favourites too ... and I'm so glad that have made it without either ALW or Bill Kenwright!!!!
This is not alawys true.
Will Young won but where is Gareth Gates now? Lee Mead won, and he has the best WE job (though Daniel is a close second). ABBA won didn't they? And Leona Lewis?
In other words, for however many you can find who lost and still won out, there are even more who have won and made good.
Last edited by jackbauer<3 : 01-06-2008 at 20:34
Will Young won but where is Gareth Gates now? Lee Mead won, and he has the best WE job (though Daniel is a close second). ABBA won didn't they? And Leona Lewis?
In other words, for however many you can find who lost and still won out, there are even more who have won and made good.
Last edited by jackbauer<3 : 01-06-2008 at 20:34
Originally Posted by jackbauer<3:
“This is not alawys true.
Will Smith won but where is Gareth Gates now? Lee Mead won, and he has the best WE job (though Daniel is a close second). ABBA won didn't they? And Leona Lewis?
In other words, for however many you can find who lost and still won out, there are even more who have won and made good.”
“This is not alawys true.
Will Smith won but where is Gareth Gates now? Lee Mead won, and he has the best WE job (though Daniel is a close second). ABBA won didn't they? And Leona Lewis?
In other words, for however many you can find who lost and still won out, there are even more who have won and made good.”
Do you mean Will Young
But I agree with the rest of your post!!
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