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Old 01-06-2008, 15:24
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I quite like them but I mean why do they have to bullshit around so much?

Shine On You Crazy Diamond's 7 minute instrumental introduction seems completely pointless to me and once the singing starts it becomes an amazing song. But why have so much time used for instrumental shite? Maybe I'm just not clever enough or I'm too close minded but to me its seems just plainly stupid.

The Dark Side Of The Moon - some of those talking moments or whatever they are with the music slightly over them work but they're a bit overused and I'm pretty sure they take up more of the album than proper music. Doesn't is come off more like filler wrapped up in some sort of fake philosphical meaning.

Does anyone else agree - is this now an often criticised aspect of them or I'm basically alone in thinking this?
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Old 01-06-2008, 16:45
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I quite like them but I mean why do they have to bullshit around so much?

Shine On You Crazy Diamond's 7 minute instrumental introduction seems completely pointless to me and once the singing starts it becomes an amazing song. But why have so much time used for instrumental shite? Maybe I'm just not clever enough or I'm too close minded but to me its seems just plainly stupid.

The Dark Side Of The Moon - some of those talking moments or whatever they are with the music slightly over them work but they're a bit overused and I'm pretty sure they take up more of the album than proper music. Doesn't is come off more like filler wrapped up in some sort of fake philosphical meaning.

Does anyone else agree - is this now an often criticised aspect of them or I'm basically alone in thinking this?
Dark Side....how many yrs in the album charts???? I haven't heard anyone complain about the voices before!!!
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Old 01-06-2008, 16:59
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I'm pretty sure they take up more of the album than proper music.
the whole thing is proper music!

your whole argument basically is that you dont like the instrumental sections and wish Pink Floyd had just stuck to the 3-4 minute rock tracks. thats stupid!!! this is progressive rock!! they dont stick to the rules!

as for saying the opening 7 minutes of SoyCD is pointless, i do not agree at all and imo the opening 7 minutes are brilliant david gilmours guitar solo is epic!! and im sure alot of people would agree with me!

you said it yourself your close minded and you are alone.
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Old 01-06-2008, 17:56
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I quite like them but I mean why do they have to bullshit around so much?

Shine On You Crazy Diamond's 7 minute instrumental introduction seems completely pointless to me and once the singing starts it becomes an amazing song. But why have so much time used for instrumental shite? Maybe I'm just not clever enough or I'm too close minded but to me its seems just plainly stupid.
Instrumental shite? I take it you're not a fan of post rock, then?

Goodness knows what you'd make of Echoes, which has about 2 minutes of vocals in a 23-minute long song...
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Old 01-06-2008, 17:59
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Does anyone else agree - is this now an often criticised aspect of them or I'm basically alone in thinking this?
I think it's just you mate
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Old 01-06-2008, 18:31
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it's not easy listening and its not for everyone and you cant just listen to one song off an album you have to sit and listen to the whole album. People that appreciate that kind of music will understand
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Old 01-06-2008, 18:44
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I don't know Dark Side that well never really got into it but there are some good sounding tracks on there.

Wish You Were Here is to me a very special album. I think they didn't see vocals as having to be the prominent part of the music, they were sort of just another instrument. Nothing was done in a pretentious way, it's an album that works on a very pure level without demanding anything from the listener.

An amazing combination of people and I'm sad we'll probably never see their like again.

I also like Division Bell and if anybody knows where I can get the proper (high quality) video of High Hopes on DVD or download I would be very grateful. (Not the one on pulse as that has the circular screen cutout).
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Old 01-06-2008, 20:17
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Instrumental shite? I take it you're not a fan of post rock, then?

Goodness knows what you'd make of Echoes, which has about 2 minutes of vocals in a 23-minute long song...
Well its just the instrumental stuff seems kind of . . . vague and stretched out and blank in parts.
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Old 01-06-2008, 21:12
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Well its just the instrumental stuff seems kind of . . . vague and stretched out and blank in parts.
Seriously?
For me it's a very well defined instrumental piece, broken up into 4 very identifiable parts, which progress very well into the 5th part (containing the vocals).

As others have stated, the lyric section is not the prominent part of the piece, it's something that is progressed into.

On You Crazy Diamond's 7 minute instrumental introduction
I assume you're listening to the version from the Best Of then, as it's 8 minutes 45 before the lyrics kick in on WYWH.....
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:39
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they've done some great stuff, but i've never really like DSOTM - mainly, i think, because time and money annoy the hell out me with the repetitive clock alarm, and cash registers, respectively....

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Old 02-06-2008, 13:40
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It's all just a matter of taste - Pink Floyd are a band you either love or hate (or don't understand), I don't, by any means, love everything that they did, but the stuff I do love will always sound fresh somehow.
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Old 02-06-2008, 15:24
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I prefer the David Gilmour led era of Pink floyd. A Momentary Lapse of Reason was brilliant.
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Old 02-06-2008, 16:46
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If you want catchy songs to sing a long too, Pink Floyd is not for you.

The instrumental passages, and sound affects are part of what makes them what they are.

There is a wide range of music from them, and most people have different opinions of what their best work is.

The Gilmour led era is good, and easier to listen to in some ways, but is not a true reflection of what they were about.

Animals, the Wall and The Final Cut are my favourites.
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Old 02-06-2008, 21:30
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The vocal on Great gig in the sky is absolutely stunning.
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Old 03-06-2008, 07:33
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For me both Pink Floyd eras are amazing. Like many have said the instrumental parts of Pink Floyds' songs are what makes them special. If you want a three - four minute songs with vocals then go and listen to Girls Aloud plenty of vocals in that. Shine Crazy Diamond is a tribute song to Syd Barratt and a very good song.
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:18
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Surely there're 4 eras? Syd era, post-Syd era, the Roger Waters era and the Gilmour era?
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:36
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I love Dark Side of the Moon, one of my favourite albums.
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:15
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I quite like them but I mean why do they have to bullshit around so much?

Shine On You Crazy Diamond's 7 minute instrumental introduction seems completely pointless to me and once the singing starts it becomes an amazing song. But why have so much time used for instrumental shite? Maybe I'm just not clever enough or I'm too close minded but to me its seems just plainly stupid.

The Dark Side Of The Moon - some of those talking moments or whatever they are with the music slightly over them work but they're a bit overused and I'm pretty sure they take up more of the album than proper music. Doesn't is come off more like filler wrapped up in some sort of fake philosphical meaning.

Does anyone else agree - is this now an often criticised aspect of them or I'm basically alone in thinking this?

Your problem is that you're only used to listening to the radio and 3 minute singles.Floyd were never a single releasing band.It's not music for radio.Everyday "pop" is just throwaway music that will mostly be forgotten in a month.
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Old 03-06-2008, 12:26
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You are not alone at all, they are not my cup of tea. Over rated band in my opinion.
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Old 03-06-2008, 16:00
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the whole 7-8 minutes at the start of Shine on really set the tone of the song. The song was written around the 4 line tune Dave came up with on the guitar, and the lyrics are about the loss of their former singer and guitar place and founder of the band Syd Barrett ( Shine on You crazy Diamond ) note the caps. This is a very mournful song and the music at the start sets this up beautifully.

As for DSOTM i saw this last week with Roger Waters. During the recording of the album he got a group of people to come in and answer a series of questions, there was a sheet of paper you answered the question tore it off then answered the next question. they were questions about life like when were you last violent, what is the point of life and death etc etc these are the voices that are played through the album as the whole album is about madness and the pointlessness of existence. You're born, earn some money and then die with your hopes and dreams always far off in the future never getting done.

Somes you can't put these things into words and so music conveys this much better than words ever will
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Old 03-06-2008, 20:47
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Pink Floyd are definetly not about catchy mainstream 3-5mins tracks you can sing along too. Alot of their music is atmospheric and won't be to everyone's taste.
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Old 03-06-2008, 21:09
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Your problem is that you're only used to listening to the radio and 3 minute singles.Floyd were never a single releasing band.It's not music for radio.Everyday "pop" is just throwaway music that will mostly be forgotten in a month.

Em, I don't listen to the radio.
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Old 03-06-2008, 21:12
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Pink Floyd are definetly not about catchy mainstream 3-5mins tracks you can sing along too. Alot of their music is atmospheric and won't be to everyone's taste.
Yes . . . but I'm sure even a major fan could see how it could be (mis)taken as pretenious.
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Old 03-06-2008, 22:29
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For anyone who likes Pink Floyd and a bit of reggae, check out Dub Side Of The Moon, a reggae reworking of DSOTM.
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Old 04-06-2008, 08:32
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Yes . . . but I'm sure even a major fan could see how it could be (mis)taken as pretenious.
Quite simply, no.
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