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Old 01-06-2008, 22:27
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Have we talked about this already?

Why, out of all of them, was Michael the one who claimed to be so shattered and exhausted?

They do two, maybe three days' work a week? and yet he could hardly keep his eyes open and couldn't remember anything!

It is my humble opinion that

either:

he had truly had enough, *pretended* not to like fast cars and slept his way through that task because he just wanted to leave!

(who would fail to be impressed by those cars? - even if you hate cars, if you saw the rarest and the best, wouldn't you even be at least *interested*? I'm not a salesman, but I just think that my sales instinct would kick in and I'd be chomping at the bit to have a go at selling the best in the world!!)

or:

he was by now so cocky and sure that he had the golden touch that he thought that no matter what he did or didn't do, his fairy godfather would keep him in for being a good (half) Jewish boy and reminding him of his own younger self.
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Old 01-06-2008, 22:32
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Maybe he was all shagged out?

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/realityt...ex-appeal.html

I get so much pleasure in punching the guy. And I'm not a violent person!
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Old 01-06-2008, 22:54
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When listening to his voice he sounded very congested during that episode. The impression I got was that he was under the weather with a cold.
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Old 01-06-2008, 23:37
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I think the experience/pressure just got to him in the end. He had been in the BR the 2 previous weeks and was very close to being fired on both occasions.
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Old 02-06-2008, 00:10
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I think the idea that the only do 2/3 days a week is wrong.

They just keep filming.

If you listen to the intro very carefull, nowhere does it say that they are actually in the house for 12 weeks.

It's not like TV production companies to work like that unless there is absolutely no opton.

It's all smoke and mirrors.

Edit: Of course, that doesn't explain why he was the only one who actually shoed evidence of being tired.

Perhaps he's been on the bottle the previous night.
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Old 02-06-2008, 00:16
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I think the idea that the only do 2/3 days a week is wrong.
They do two tasks per week, and even in between tasks they still do some of the interviews to camera that the candidates do.....so yeah it is more intensive than just having to work two or three days out of seven.
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Old 02-06-2008, 00:23
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Edit: Of course, that doesn't explain why he was the only one who actually shoed evidence of being tired.
I thought they all looked strained at times, though not as visibly as Michael. Also, being on the line in the boardroom three times in a row can't be easy on the nerves.

I actually sympathised with him a lot this week. He has been awful in past episodes, but even at his worst this time it seemed more like desperation than despicable weaselling.
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:02
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He was not only physically tired he appeared mentally tired as well.

Maybe the multiple trips to the boardroom had taken it's toll coupled with the constant strain of trying to blag his way to the top of the pile.

He was ready to go.
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:43
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When listening to his voice he sounded very congested during that episode. The impression I got was that he was under the weather with a cold.
He always sounded congested though.
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:54
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He's only worked for a year, and in telesales. It's pressured, but the same every day and involves sitting at a desk.

Being taken out of his comfort zone regularly may have taken it out of him more, as he's less experienced othan the rest.
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Old 02-06-2008, 13:26
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They do two tasks per week, and even in between tasks they still do some of the interviews to camera that the candidates do.....so yeah it is more intensive than just having to work two or three days out of seven.
Hello!

Do they really do two tasks a week? Because that is a *huge* amount of work!

When you consider that some tasks last three days and with all those 6.30am starts and 8-9-10pm finishes, PLUS treats and, as you say, interviews etc.

They must be on their feet all the time!

Do we know?
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Old 02-06-2008, 13:44
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Hello!

Do they really do two tasks a week? Because that is a *huge* amount of work!

When you consider that some tasks last three days and with all those 6.30am starts and 8-9-10pm finishes, PLUS treats and, as you say, interviews etc.

They must be on their feet all the time!

Do we know?
Yep, they do roughly two tasks per week. It has been confirmed by several candidates that this is the case. It may be that sometimes it's not exactly two tasks per week (it might be that two tasks are done over eight days, for example, depending on the nature of the tasks I guess), but as a rule of thumb it is something like two per week.
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Old 02-06-2008, 14:37
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They do two tasks per week, and even in between tasks they still do some of the interviews to camera that the candidates do.....so yeah it is more intensive than just having to work two or three days out of seven.
But most of us work a five day week at least - not allowing for work we take home, or meetings called at ungodly hours (all unpaid)!

And quite frankly I'd sympathise far more with the tiredness of someone working at a brain numbing factory job or shop assistants, many of whom have to deal with rude and aggressive customers. The Apprentices are out to show that they are the cream of Britain's young entrepreneurs. No gain without pain.

Oh dear - did I really quote such a cliche.
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Old 02-06-2008, 20:51
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He looked like he had a late night to me. Perhaps a few too many drinks. He looked hung over.
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Old 02-06-2008, 21:13
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I bet they had further footage of others saying they felt tired, staggering to the bathroom etc etc - the interview with him just happened to make sense within the wider context of him being fired on that task.

Working a 9-5 (8-4, 10-6, whatever) on Asda checkout/in an admin position/ at the end of a 'phone in a call center 5 days a week hardly carries the same levels of stress as the filming of this supposed job interview.
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Old 03-06-2008, 01:25
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But most of us work a five day week at least - not allowing for work we take home, or meetings called at ungodly hours (all unpaid)!

And quite frankly I'd sympathise far more with the tiredness of someone working at a brain numbing factory job or shop assistants, many of whom have to deal with rude and aggressive customers. The Apprentices are out to show that they are the cream of Britain's young entrepreneurs. No gain without pain.

Oh dear - did I really quote such a cliche.
I bet they had further footage of others saying they felt tired, staggering to the bathroom etc etc - the interview with him just happened to make sense within the wider context of him being fired on that task.

Working a 9-5 (8-4, 10-6, whatever) on Asda checkout/in an admin position/ at the end of a 'phone in a call center 5 days a week hardly carries the same levels of stress as the filming of this supposed job interview.
If you read my post you will see I referred to the tiredness not stress of checkout assistants (did I specify Asda)? Furthermore I did not mention call centres or clerical/admin workers at all.
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Old 03-06-2008, 22:40
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But most of us work a five day week at least - not allowing for work we take home, or meetings called at ungodly hours (all unpaid)!
Most of us can go home to family, though. We spend the evenings surrounded by friends and people who love us, and who are on our side. Some of us can spend time with our children which reminds us why we are doing the job in the first place. It all helps to unwind and recharge.

The Apprentice candidates aren't allowed contact with friends and family except for one short phone call a week. They have to live with the other candidates, all of whom are rivals the for job. They have to share bedrooms and bathrooms. Some of them snore. It all adds to the stress.
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Old 04-06-2008, 00:02
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Much was made of the fact that he was "very young" so maybe it was past his bedtime??

Seriously, I think it's very difficult to sensibly throw knives about this kind of topic. Most of us can only speculate as to how hard it is and how long they're in there or whatever.

It is referred to a few times as a "twelve week job interview" so it suggests maybe there is twelve weeks in there? Or maybe it's twelve weeks between finishing filming and the announcing of the winner that both finalists have to work for sir alan between. I don't know. My point is that I think I have heard of it as being twelve week
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Old 04-06-2008, 05:51
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Most of us can go home to family, though. We spend the evenings surrounded by friends and people who love us, and who are on our side. Some of us can spend time with our children which reminds us why we are doing the job in the first place. It all helps to unwind and recharge.

The Apprentice candidates aren't allowed contact with friends and family except for one short phone call a week. They have to live with the other candidates, all of whom are rivals the for job. They have to share bedrooms and bathrooms. Some of them snore. It all adds to the stress.
Most of our forces can't go home to a loving family - some of them put their lives on the line every day - that's stress.

The Apprentices are supposedly the cream of Britain's young entrepeneurs - stress is part of the job.
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Old 04-06-2008, 08:21
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Much was made of the fact that he was "very young" so maybe it was past his bedtime??
ROFLMAO!
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Old 04-06-2008, 08:50
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Most of our forces can't go home to a loving family - some of them put their lives on the line every day - that's stress.

The Apprentices are supposedly the cream of Britain's young entrepeneurs - stress is part of the job.
And thats no doubt partly why they put them under stress. The shooting goes on pretty well non-stop, including weekends - the Wedding Show was over the Saturday.

It IS a stamina thing - which Michael obviously ran out of (lol)
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:10
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And thats no doubt partly why they put them under stress. The shooting goes on pretty well non-stop, including weekends - the Wedding Show was over the Saturday.

It IS a stamina thing - which Michael obviously ran out of (lol)
I take your point - but I can't summon up much sympathy for them. According to their very high opinion of themselves, most of them work under stress every day - and deal it with admirably. They're under scrutiny because they choose to be - This is the 4th series of The Apprentice - they applicants should know what to expect.

As for working weekends - haven't we all been required to do that at sometime? Plus evening, plus working lunches etc.

So the Wedding Show was over the Saturday - were they expected to work Sunday as well?

I work under stress - but I'm well rewarded for it and if I don't like it I know where the door is! I reserve my sympathy for those who slave at a mind dumbing job for a low wage just to pay the bills and put food on the table.

I know many will consider my views harsh - fine that's their prerogative - we'll have to agree to disagree.
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:30
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I take your point - but I can't summon up much sympathy for them. According to their very high opinion of themselves, most of them work under stress every day - and deal it with admirably. They're under scrutiny because they choose to be - This is the 4th series of The Apprentice - they applicants should know what to expect.

As for working weekends - haven't we all been required to do that at sometime? Plus evening, plus working lunches etc.

So the Wedding Show was over the Saturday - were they expected to work Sunday as well?

I work under stress - but I'm well rewarded for it and if I don't like it I know where the door is! I reserve my sympathy for those who slave at a mind dumbing job for a low wage just to pay the bills and put food on the table.

I know many will consider my views harsh - fine that's their prerogative - we'll have to agree to disagree.


Dont worry - I agree with you, if not in such forceful tones!
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:36
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So the Wedding Show was over the Saturday - were they expected to work Sunday as well?
The boardroom and the treat were on Sunday. They start at 6 and finish at 2.00 a.m in most tasks. We all experience pressure but we have those we love to rely on. The apprentices qork 24/7 and in tasks they work around 18 hours non-stop. After finishing they have to go to live with those who compete with them for the same job. Add to that, every task they are thrown into a situation that is out of their comfort zone and this can continue for 2 months.

I think we are underestimating the pressure they are under. Even Claire said it was nothing like what she was expecting.
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:04
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Even Claire said it was nothing like what she was expecting.
Didn't she think it was going to be "fun" though? I think the fact that it's not what she was expecting was because she had some idea that she'd roll up, do one task a week, give her all at that task, rest the remainder of the week and generally enjoy themselves in one of the many nice houses in london.
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