How was it clear?!!! If they couldn't prove it then most likely it didn't happen. I also didn't detect any sign of stress in the boardroom. She was very relaxed and if there had been an issue regarding her sales, she would have been very stressed. I think the whole story is fake.

Alex and Helene are the two I wish to do most well, alas I think the chav Claire may barge into the proceedings.

Fantastic. Well done. You showed quite clearly what is wrong with her hey, I applaud you. Go and treat yourself. You deserve for your work to improve humanity.

I have to add if people think because she gave a speech/presentation, (which was completely dullard and boring, no matter what Sir Alan or anybody says) she has some talent - I can understand quite clearly that all the thoughts and opinions are drive by the good friend TV.

I would be very surprised if Claire makes it to the end. Very surprised because she's not good at anything.

I am glad I bring delights to the proceedings.

Claire was very very very lucky to win as project leader as both wins were utterly undeserved.

It's clear because it was announced and comparatively wasn't announced for anybody else. Also her deals on the day were strangely higher than anybody else on her group as well. Her sales ability has been atrocious in the past bar the Wedding task where the product sold itself... we could go on about the added factors that supplement this because they chose and planned the business badly and were so improvised it was embarrassing.

But even though the obvious of the above didn't occur, selling cheap products, isn't difficult. If you have a bargain, people will snap it up. As I said elsewhere, the product, like the wedding dresses, sell themselves but this leads me to the problem that the rest of the group couldn't sell so she phoned up her friends.

Correct. Luck played a huge part. Especially since Lindi was thinking with her stomach in one task which led Claire to win. She managed the project so badly that it would take somebody as utterly stupid and idiotic on the other time (like Lindi) for Claire to win.

This has to be one of the most tenuous lines of logic yet offered in a post. This isn't just grasping at straws but grasping for air!

I didn't like her presentation either but seeing Lee's presentation along with the fact that Alex has never volunteered to do a pitch I think she is better than the rest of them. She has some talent because she is persistent, has strength of character and she is quite often is right.

Thanks for pointing that out. Being relaxed and lacking stress shows that one is great at something.

Lets get Buddhist monks to get us out of the Credit Crisis.

She is not persistent or has strength of character. Her aim is to be opportunistic, bring others down and get a work contract and eventually the money she wants.

If she was persistent and had good character she would learn actual business and survive on excellence rather than being devious.

It isn't even necessary.

We simply have a couple of posters who evidently detest Claire ignoring the fact that the allegation against her was investigated and no action deemed necessary and stating with no evidence whatsoever that she is guilty.

There is really no point in arguing with them as it may give their unfounded assertions a credibility that they in no way deserve.

Claire has sold in every task she was involved in. Saying that "Her sales ability has been atrocious in the past bar the Wedding task " is unsubstantiated. Can I know in which tasks did Alex or Lee demonstrate their sales ability?!! I think your answer would be the wedding and cars tasks.

The rest of the group didn't sell because they were awful in sales. We saw Michael's techniques in selling in the weddin task and again in the last task. He did sell one car for a day. Helene doesn't have experience selling and it was clear why she didn't sell. Claire does have the experience and she sold before. Therefore, I don't know why you find it strange that she sold that day!!!!

My point was against the ridiculous point offered that because she wasn't stressed in the boardroom therefore she was innocent. Utterly ridiculous.

I suspect she was guilty, but the production team would have to have a cast iron case before they took action and even then they may not deem the bad publicity worth it and may have gone for a private warning, as they did with Tre over team names.

How do you know they were unfounded? I don't presume to know for sure one way or the other, I only suspect.

Again you demonstrate a preference for prejudice over facts and a naivety about the real world. No wonder you are an unthinking, uncritical Lucinda obsessive.

I didn't know. Are they always like that?!! I mean do they target all the candidates. Do they have favourites?

???

ROFLMAO

So if I announce you've been accused of some heinous crime and do not announce that anyone else has, that clearly makes you guilty? Priceless!


Just ???


And there you are again stating an unproven allegation which was investigated and led to no action as if it were a fact.

This is really beyond a weak argument and well into the realms of a thoroughly dishonest argument.

Not really.

If she was guilty she would probably be wondering if AS had been told and would bring the matter up and give her the boot despite there not being a cast iron case.

Lack of apparant stress is by no means a clincher but it is not as absurd as you try to make out.


And that is a suspicion that is not based upon any evidence or any demonstrable logic so although it is one you may have it is of no importance to anyone else.


So because I am prefering to base my opinion on the evidence with which we have been presented I am guilty of prefering prejudice over facts?

Your logic is unusual.


Oh, and BTW, we are discussing Claire, not Lucinda.

You didn't read my post as usual. I didn't say that she would have been stressed had she done it. I meant she would have been stressed had someone claimed that she broke the rules by calling some friends. Therefore, I think the story is fake.

Stuff and nonsense, and you know it. "Not good at anything"? Come on. She has plenty of faults, but she also has plenty of skills, determination, and experience. You're just choosing not to see it.