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Old 04-06-2008, 22:52
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Um, what age is he?
I'm not sure but I "think" he might be 24.
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Old 04-06-2008, 22:52
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As much as it pains me to say this I think Lucinda showed her naivety by mentioning it in front of those sharks.
It's a sad world when we think honesty is a bad thing. I agree with you...but she never backstabbed...and that seems to be such a rare thing these days.
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Old 04-06-2008, 22:53
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Alex was snide, just like he always is. Its proof that a sleazy smile can carry you a long way, he has nothing else going for him

And I think Lucinda summed it up well....Lee was a nice guy until Alex came along.
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Old 04-06-2008, 22:54
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And I think Lucinda summed it up well....Lee was a nice guy until Alex came along.
Totally.

Except for Lee bullying that other woman that time.
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Old 04-06-2008, 22:55
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Had Alex been on the brink of being fired, I'd understand such a comment to switch the limelight on someone else IF he had made a comment at the time.

The episode showed how everyone assumed Lucinda would just walk away without her actually saying it. Yet looked gutted when she was determined to fight for the job. The comments made in regards to some of her areas of work when the interviewers met with SAS was bordering on disgusting.

There was no need whatsoever for Alex to interrupt the discussion between SAS and Lucinda. In fact I think he was close to firing her anyway as he was questioning where she'd fit in.

All he's done with it is damage himself - which is good - and on the show afterwards Lucinda clearly showed she was intelligent and not going to stoop to such levels. As much as Lucinda didn't get on with tasks at some stages, Alex tried his best to handicap her. I'm sure he'll admit afterwards it was a tactic.

Considering the nature of Lucinda's work, she hasn't ruined her reputation and if anything, shown she is a more trustworthy individual than most.
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Old 04-06-2008, 22:56
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If a candidate has doubts or reservations then isn't it in Sir Alan's interests to know? It shows that Alex can be relied upon to communicate relevant information.
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Old 04-06-2008, 22:56
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It's a sad world when we think honesty is a bad thing. I agree with you...but she never backstabbed...and that seems to be such a rare thing these days.
I totally agree with you. In fact I've been told on more than one occasion that my honesty is disarming! So I really do empathise with Lucinda.
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Old 04-06-2008, 22:56
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I thought he was an utter snake, there was no need for him to take a private discussion into the boardroom...
Yeah because there were no cameras there or anything being filmed at all
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Old 04-06-2008, 22:59
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There was no need whatsoever for Alex to interrupt the discussion between SAS and Lucinda. In fact I think he was close to firing her anyway as he was questioning where she'd fit in.

All he's done with it is damage himself - which is good - and on the show afterwards Lucinda clearly showed she was intelligent and not going to stoop to such levels. As much as Lucinda didn't get on with tasks at some stages, Alex tried his best to handicap her. I'm sure he'll admit afterwards it was a tactic.
That's the nastiest thing...he was not in danger, he had no need to do it. Sadly, I don't see SAS ever cottoning on to him. He is the new Dewberry.

I totally agree with you. In fact I've been told on more than one occasion that my honesty is disarming! So I really do empathise with Lucinda.
I'm the same. Too honest...it doesn't work.
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Old 04-06-2008, 22:59
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If a candidate has doubts or reservations then isn't it in Sir Alan's interests to know? It shows that Alex can be relied upon to communicate relevant information.
Yeah but imagine Alex being your manager. Could you trust him? I couldnt trust him at all.
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Old 04-06-2008, 23:03
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If a candidate has doubts or reservations then isn't it in Sir Alan's interests to know? It shows that Alex can be relied upon to communicate relevant information.
Do you believe the way Alex relayed what happened was accurate?

I wouldn't call it reliable.

Playing the being honest card doesn't work if you distort the truth. It reminded me of when I was a child and would tell my mother what my sister had got up to, it was relevant, but most certainly distorted to drop her in it.

Plus she had doubts, she communicated very clearly afterwards that they were definitely in the past.
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Old 04-06-2008, 23:03
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She was just having a 'moment' - Helene hates her anyway so she fuelled that more than anyone. Alex just used it, I don't think that had any bearing on Al's decision. After all, he just fired for her 'zaniness' - aka being to posh. re Rafe & De lacy Brown.
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Old 04-06-2008, 23:04
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I wonder if Alan Sugar and Alex deserve each other.
A match made in hell. How appropriate!
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Old 04-06-2008, 23:05
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It shows that Alex can be relied upon to communicate relevant information.
You seem to overlook the fact the information he relayed was, in fact, not entirely true.....so he can be relied upon to put his own phony spin on anything he overhears before feeding it back to you as well...
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Old 04-06-2008, 23:05
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Yeah because there were no cameras there or anything being filmed at all
Yes but Sir Alan doesn't see the footage till later!!
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Old 04-06-2008, 23:07
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I don't think Alan sees film footage from the shows until later - he relys on Nick, Margaret and latterly the interview panel for information. None of these people were present when Lucinda was musing about the job.

Alex is such a childish telltale - such a weak candidate that he has to bring someone else down to make himself look better.

I thought he was downright rude, sighing all the way through the interviews and being completely arsey!

Really not bothered who wins now - they've all proved themselves to be pretty reprehensible.
I haven't really taken much notice of Alex up until this week but what he most reminds me of is a schoolboy in class doing all the sighing and the eye-rolling and snidey smiles when someone else gets into trouble for anything.

He needs to grow up and act like a man and not like a weasley snake in the grass tittle-tattle.

'Please sir, it was her that done it!'
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Old 04-06-2008, 23:10
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Yes but Sir Alan doesn't see the footage till later!!
yeah because he sits there on his couch at 9pm watching BBC1 to see the first footage of the show

Don't be ridiculous he knows them in and out + he would of found out about it anyway
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Old 04-06-2008, 23:24
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yeah because he sits there on his couch at 9pm watching BBC1 to see the first footage of the show

Don't be ridiculous he knows them in and out + he would of found out about it anyway
But Alex telling tales reflects badly on Alex IMO, not Lucinda. She was only speaking out loud what they were all thinking. She's too honest.

And BTW, I'm not ridiculous at all!

How dare you!
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Old 04-06-2008, 23:28
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But Alex telling tales reflects badly on Alex IMO, not Lucinda. She was only speaking out loud what they were all thinking. She's too honest.

And BTW, I'm not ridiculous at all!

How dare you!
I agree.

Everybody questions big decisions. If you don't, you don't deserve the big decision.

This reflects badly on Alex. You do not snivel around a boardroom. Around a sales team where you are working on commission, yes, but in a boardroom - nope.
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Old 04-06-2008, 23:43
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This reflects badly on Alex. You do not snivel around a boardroom. Around a sales team where you are working on commission, yes, but in a boardroom - nope.
To us, yes. SAS could not give a toss. This is just £££££ in his bank.
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Old 04-06-2008, 23:43
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Do you believe the way Alex relayed what happened was accurate?

I wouldn't call it reliable.

Playing the being honest card doesn't work if you distort the truth. It reminded me of when I was a child and would tell my mother what my sister had got up to, it was relevant, but most certainly distorted to drop her in it.

Plus she had doubts, she communicated very clearly afterwards that they were definitely in the past.
It opened up the subject. Lucinda was there herself to explain it more accurately. It's not as though he did it without her present where his version would be the only one heard.

She might have communicated that her doubts were in the past but how is anyone to know that her doubts wouldn't later re-emerge? Having doubts at all at that late stage is significant, especially compared to the total dedication of the other candidates. It's also significant that what seemed to prompt her doubts was the hard time given to her early on in the interviews, bringing into question her resilience and determination.

I'm not criticising Lucinda for having doubts - it's valid to question whether the job was right for her - but the other candidates were not trusted friends to whom it's safe to unburden - they're competitors. She needs to be able to determine which information it's appropriate to disclose in the presence of people who amount to competitors and which not. I don't really see Alex as betraying her as such as he was never in the position of her friend or confidant.
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Old 04-06-2008, 23:48
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It opened up the subject. Lucinda was there herself to explain it more accurately. It's not as though he did it without her present where his version would be the only one heard.

She might have communicated that her doubts were in the past but how is anyone to know that her doubts wouldn't later re-emerge? Having doubts at all at that late stage is significant, especially compared to the total dedication of the other candidates. It's also significant that what seemed to prompt her doubts was the hard time given to her early on in the interviews, bringing into question her resilience and determination.

I'm not criticising Lucinda for having doubts - it's valid to question whether the job was right for her - but the other candidates were not trusted friends to whom it's safe to unburden - they're competitors. She needs to be able to determine which information it's appropriate to disclose in the presence of people who amount to competitors and which not. I don't really see Alex as betraying her as such as he was never in the position of her friend or confidant.
I wasn't bringing it up as a matter of betrayal but questioning your belief that he was someone to rely on and was being honest. It's a contradiction to the way he distorted it.
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Old 04-06-2008, 23:48
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Just had a read of this linked from a story about the 1st contestant fired, looks like Alex certainly started out as he meant to go on.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/realityt...pprentice.html
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Old 04-06-2008, 23:48
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I was shocked when he said that in the boardroom - she was just voicing her thoughts honestly and later said that she wanted the job - he is sneaky in the way he does things - I am not suprised he is in the final as I thought he would be - but he wouldn't be my choice if I was SAS.
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Old 04-06-2008, 23:49
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I think he fought a great fight, well done Alex
Sadly that tells us a great deal about you.

Quite honestly it's something I would much prefer not to have known.
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