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Does anyone else think Claude was an arsehole to Lucinda ???
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diva_moon
05-06-2008
Originally Posted by LaurieMarlow:
“Funny that, if she has so little to offer, that she's the highest paid of all the contestants. I wouldn't pay someone £100,000 plus for emotions and fashion advice, would you?”

Don't worry! Nobody pays Vivid £100,000 for anything - if they did then he/she would have better things to do than be going on about Lucinda! Nah, it's just jealousy, mark my words
Sara Webb
05-06-2008
Vivid is simply a wind up merchant and isn't a very good one either.
Sara Webb
05-06-2008
Originally Posted by bookerg:
“Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but I felt so strongly about it I just thought I'd dedicate it to a thread of its own

I don't remember the specifics, but from my recollection Claude was getting seriously angry for no good reason (I don't remember Lucinda doing/saying anything wrong??)”

Yes - a complete and utter arse.

I couldn't believe it when they accused her of not listening - that was absurd beyond belief, and entirely inaccurate. She was the only one of the lot who genuinely DID listen when she was project manager.

I was shouting at the screen telling Lucinda to stand up for herself. I don't think she heard me though.
Vivid
05-06-2008
Lucinda does not listen, does not absorb information, cannot analyse social situations or business problems, she is in a little fairy land of her own making just as a naive child does, and she shares numerous other character traits with a child, chiefly her self-indulgence, ignorance and inability to handle criticism, and her propensity to petty tantrums and destructive behaviour. The interviewer was remarkably perceptive to see that for all her babbling she didn't answer questions and didn't listen.
DavetheScot
06-06-2008
Originally Posted by marks thespot:
“ They were particularly mean to Lee, I thought, the dinosaur impression thing was just bullying & goading someone very nervous & trying to please into making a fool of themselves.”

I hated that too. I'm not a great fan of Lee, but I thought that was a particularly cheap trick.

Not to mention that if he'd refused to do the impression they'd probably have said he was pompous and up himself.
Cadence
06-06-2008
Originally Posted by diva_moon:
“Don't worry! Nobody pays Vivid £100,000 for anything - if they did then he/she would have better things to do than be going on about Lucinda! Nah, it's just jealousy, mark my words ”

And the relevance of this to a debate about The Apprentice is?
Sara Webb
06-06-2008
Originally Posted by Cazza23:
“You wouldn't say you were a misogynist at all, by any chance - would you??? ”

Actually, it is merely a lifeless troll who argues with absolutely everyone about everything. Ignore it.
williams96
06-06-2008
Originally Posted by Cadence:
“And the relevance of this to a debate about The Apprentice is?”

It's stopped being a debate about 'the apprentice' and a debate personally towards Lucinda a long time ago.
kazmson
06-06-2008
Originally Posted by Kris:
“I didn't like the show very much (never do) but I did enjoy the bit where he challenged Lucinda to listen presumably expecting her to argue in an ironic and good for telly manner and she stopped talking to listen to him at which point he had nothing to say and ended up looking like a complete dick

You go girl, I don't think she was right for the job and was surprised (pleasantly) that she got as far as she did but it was worth it for that moment ”


Yes that was indeed PRICELESS!! And the worst of it was he was unable to think on his feet this BIG BAD business man....what a tool!

The interview stage gets worse every year.....I didn't think last years debacle could be topped ...(Anyone remember the "so what about your kids ?" line of questioning ) but this time ........We had 3 men given the brief of trying to be as rude as possible and one woman given the brief of getting to the heart of the candidates....anyone else find that a bit pathetic and frankly embarrassing.

I've mentioned this on another thread but it's relevent here too...

The interview is also the first real indication of the working environment of the company for the interviewee.....is this really how SAS wants to present the working environment of his business???? Really ??

The mind boggles.
kazmson
06-06-2008
Originally Posted by DavetheScot:
“I hated that too. I'm not a great fan of Lee, but I thought that was a particularly cheap trick.

[b]Not to mention that if he'd refused to do the impression they'd probably have said he was pompous and up himself[b].”

Or SAS is looking for someone who will do anything to win ...

Yeah it was a cheap trick and it just seemed like humiliation...luckily for Lee I think it reflects far worse on the interviewer than on the interviewee.

(I would think swearing and calling other staff gobshites was equally as inappropriate as Lee's impression... but nobody batted an eye )
marks thespot
06-06-2008
Originally Posted by kazmson:
“(I would think swearing and calling other staff gobshites was equally as inappropriate as Lee's impression... but nobody batted an eye )”

Oh, I batted an eye....

I was surprised none of the interviewers did, but i think that just reflects even more on their behaviour!
Sara Webb
08-06-2008
Originally Posted by marks thespot:
“Oh, I batted an eye....

I was surprised none of the interviewers did, but i think that just reflects even more on their behaviour!”

The interviewer did look a bit shocked when H said that, I thought.
ChristineCagney
08-06-2008
Originally Posted by kazmson:
“Yes that was indeed PRICELESS!! And the worst of it was he was unable to think on his feet this BIG BAD business man....what a tool!

The interview stage gets worse every year.....I didn't think last years debacle could be topped ...(Anyone remember the "so what about your kids ?" line of questioning ) but this time ........We had 3 men given the brief of trying to be as rude as possible and one woman given the brief of getting to the heart of the candidates....anyone else find that a bit pathetic and frankly embarrassing.

I've mentioned this on another thread but it's relevent here too...

The interview is also the first real indication of the working environment of the company for the interviewee.....is this really how SAS wants to present the working environment of his business???? Really ??

The mind boggles.”

Couldn't agree more. I was disgusted with the whole kids thing on last year's show (which surely is technically discrimination anyway).
It's like the 'we've all done it' comment about lying on your CV. Well I bloody well haven't! And yet they vilify Lucinda for not listening, as if she's work of the devil. Not to mention saying to SAS that he'd be annoyed working with her. They'd never say that about a male candidate. :sleep:
Esqualita
08-06-2008
If any of the interviewers had spoken to me like that I'd have asked them if Unprofessionalism was a standard requirement in Sir Alan's business. Karen Brady was the only one who was professional and courteous.
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