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Old 05-06-2008, 15:07
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I really don't know. I used to work in engineering and wouldn't dream of speaking like that in an interview

but then none of the interviewers even mentioned it so perhaps it's acceptable, who knows

Lying on a CV appears to be so now so what do I know
I worked for a very prestigious engineering company and they were all gentlemen. Even under serious pressure I never heard them use the sort of language that Helen used.

Mind you from the little we saw of them, I believe her interviews show (more so than Lucinda's) showed that she's not the team player. She told the interviewers that people would hide things from her because they didn't want her there. Surely if she's as "good" as what she implies then her colleagues wouldn't have singled her out for such treatment?
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Old 05-06-2008, 15:10
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They probably had to cut most of her interviews due to excessive swearing and the repeated sob story.
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Old 05-06-2008, 15:21
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Maybe we saw lots of Helene's interviews but we fell asleep or have subconsciously blocked it from our memory for fear of nightmares?
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Old 05-06-2008, 15:26
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We saw all the other 4 getting a bashing from the interviewers but she hardly got any airtime!
Hi Highfield, I noticed as well.
But did you also notice in the boardroom there was a specific sequence where Alan Sugar went through all the other four candidates at one point in sequence, but completely missed Helene off at the end?

I'm getting the feeling that Helene is being deliberately held back in the editing, and believe that there may be a reason for that.

I don't know if you caught my thread about the way in which Helene has been edited prior to last night's show, but I have my own theory about it, which may or may not be true.....http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=807821

Bear in mind that the entire series is edited in hindsight, right up until the last day.
Remember the photography task which Helene's team won? Apart from the arguing with Lucinda you'd think that Helene's team didn't even exist and only Simon's team took part in the task. I found it very curious why they hardly showed Helene's team at all. They won, but we were left completely and utterly clueless as to how.

So I based my theory on what had gone before in the above linked post that Helene would be a finalist.

I believe that this final four will have been working for Alan Sugar won't they?
In this instance Alan Sugar will have a much closer eye on them. So you've got to consider that this is almost like starting afresh for the finalists and a new level of the game.

Previous winners of the show have always had something steady about their character and persona. The candidates with the most airtime don't tend to win.

So I think it's really worth considering that the entire series except for the final day is edited in hindsight.
Previous winners have been controversial and there's been much gnashing of teeth and shaking of fists, along with claims that some contestant or other 'wuz robbed'.

There could be a shocker on the cards.
I think that it's all about getting to this stage of the game where you get to work for Alan Sugar on trial and he has a much closer eye on you and on what you're capable of or not.
This final task is always seems to be quite arbitrary and it's as though the result of this last task is based on what Alan Sugar has probably already decided anyway.
Most people on here believed that Ruth had walked this task and couldn't believe that Michelle was seen to have done a better job.
So if Alan Sugar has already decided who he wants, he can make the result of this final task fit into a decision he has possibly already made. This final task has always felt rather arbitrary in the past.

I'm starting to think that from believing that Helene would be a finalist, I'm now thinking that she could maybe have even won outright. Because if you get to the stage of the competiton where you work for Alan Sugar on trial, every candidate is in the position where they can come into their own.
Bearing in mind the curious omission of Helene in many edits where you'd think they'd show more of her pros and cons, I'm thinking that she's possibly a very powerful contender and may have even possibly won.
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Old 05-06-2008, 15:40
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Maybe they didn't really show her because it was so awful, but they needed 4 for the final.
But contestants who are awful are always shown to us. Because that's what makes up the bulk of the entertainment on this series.

Many people seem to think that if we see a lot of a contestant then that somehow translates into them having an advantage. We don't know. As viewers what position are we in to be able to judge if they are only showing fragments of what the show wants us to see to entertain us?
It's the dreadful stuff that we tend to see more of as that's what makes the show such good entertainment.

I noticed a previous post speaking about what we as Apprentice viewers have 'noticed'. As though we are experts due to what we've 'noticed' on an edited entertainment show.
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Old 05-06-2008, 15:45
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easy. Because her interviews would put you to sleep. The show is regarded as entertainment, and she clearly lacks any personality.

Also the fact that she called the other contestants gobshites was so unprofessional. Made me cringe.
No, sorry but I don't think it 'clearly' says that at all.

If you were competent and got on with your job, and did it well, why would they show that on this show? It doesn't mean that there's anything lacking in your personality.

There's been plenty of car crash moments on this show over the weeks which made the highlights, but it doesn't mean that the people involved had more personality.
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Old 05-06-2008, 16:01
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I too noticed the strange gap in the editing of the BR when it came to Helene, and did wonder if SAS was protesting too much about the sob story and that she was probably TA after all.

Great analysis (as usual) Alrightmate.
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Old 05-06-2008, 16:05
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SAS probably doesn't go for sob stories after Michelle of series 2. It seemed that he'd had his feathers ruffled after that. ut it was weird how he talked to the other four in the BR, but then the dramatic music came up and he made a quick summary of Helene!
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Old 05-06-2008, 16:09
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I really don't know. I used to work in engineering and wouldn't dream of speaking like that in an interview

but then none of the interviewers even mentioned it so perhaps it's acceptable, who knows

Lying on a CV appears to be so now so what do I know
AS has now set a precedent. Lie on your CV and use foul language at your interview and in Helene's case act if you have permanent PMT.

It seems if AS wants you in the prog/comp he will find an excuse. He nearly didn't fire Michael for being young!!!
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Old 07-06-2008, 17:19
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Now you come to mention it she was not featured much in the interviews at all.

The only time I think was when she was being interviewed by Karen Brady. We never saw her being interviewed the men.
Actually we did see her being interviewed by two of the man. With the first she talked about it being tougher for a woman in a man's world and he asked if that was why she quit her previous job. She came across pretty well, I thought. Then she was interviewed by the woman, who asked the question about the most significant events that had brought her to that point. She gave an honest answer, which happened to involve her troubled teen years. We also briefly saw a third interviewer who read out the "toe-dipping" extract from her CV.

I expect we didn't see much more because she didn't make a lot of amusing mistakes. The "toe-dipping" was probably as embarrassing as it got. She's a strong candidate.
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Old 07-06-2008, 19:00
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In latest promo ads for the final the have quotes to camera from all finalists apart from Helene - just to add to conspiracies!
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Old 07-06-2008, 19:49
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You can only hear the words 'ballsy' and 'carprut environment' so many times before you become comatose.
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Old 07-06-2008, 19:52
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When they did show her interviews, the only thing I could think about was how many real-life interviewers would take exception to her bad language....
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Old 07-06-2008, 20:32
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Maybe we're all wrong about Alex leaving (or those who sumise he left are) and it was Helene who had to be replaced by someone else as a finalist, resulting in some heavy editing....they can't just airbrush her out of the series, but they can minimise her input!

Do I believe that or think it's the case? More than likely it isn't, but I like to type out loud sometimes!
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Old 10-06-2008, 17:15
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I read somewhere that helene is now back working with her former employers so assume she is not 'the apprentice'
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Old 10-06-2008, 17:35
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I read somewhere that helene is now back working with her former employers so assume she is not 'the apprentice'
I hope she demanded a bigger office and at least two cups of tea as befits a ballsy woman like her - she works in the corporate sector you know.
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Old 10-06-2008, 22:40
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We saw all the other 4 getting a bashing from the interviewers but she hardly got any airtime!
But you forget -- like the Mona Lisa she got there for doing nothing.
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Old 10-06-2008, 22:46
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But you forget -- like the Mona Lisa she got there for doing nothing.
Nice one ... good observational skills
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Old 10-06-2008, 23:49
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I noted this too and I do have a feeling that Helene may win.

I've also noticed that the other 3 candidates have all been 'spotted' over the last few weeks in magazine columns (e.g. Alex has been spotted getting out of a cab in Manchester / Clare was spotted shopping in London) Yet Helene has nowhere to be seen.

Also noticed that the other 3 cadidates have suffored abuse from the public too since the show aired, but yet again, Helene hasn't. I just find it really strage and am thinking she's going to win. I don't mind if she wins as I don't think she's as bad as she is made out to be and her interview this week seem to justify certain things she hAS SAID.
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