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Debate: Does Nathan deserve to go?
DarkAngel
10-08-2003
Well lets be honest, it's most like to be Nate that will get evicted this week but do you think he deserves to go? Did Justin make the right nominations?

My opinion:
People may feel sorry for Nate but the man brought this all on himself, mostly everybody told him not to save ali last week he didn't listen now she's going to stay while he's going.
lilclaire1234
10-08-2003
He fancies Ali that why!
He sholdnt of used the veto as she is just using him!!

I dont think he deserves to go!!
Dreamerr
10-08-2003
I really would rather Nathan stay but he got himself in this position~It's the way he has played the game~
Ali and Nathan have been tight since the get go~ If Nathan hadn't used the veto on Ali, she would have been voted out. Nathan wasn't that tight with David, Erika and Jack nor with any other housemate. More than likely one of the 3 stooges would have won HOH that week, put Nathan up and he would have been outta of the house even sooner. Nathan and Jack lost the HOH this week. .it's not Ali's fault~ they have nobody to blame but themselves! Nathan's best move ~ when he was HOH he should have put Justin up for eviction rather than Jee ~
da33431
11-08-2003
In hindsight you can say it was Nathan who broke the Alliance's back when he used to the veto to save Alison. She played him and got the better of him, he deserves to go for that reason. But I do like like watching him, he's very much in touch with his feminine side which makes for good TV!!
Dreamerr
11-08-2003
da33431

*LOL*
Susann
11-08-2003
YES, Nathan deserves to go. Going from person to person, looking like a wet weekend, trying to lay the blame elsewhere, when it is no one's fault really but his own. Nathan let himself get taken in by Alison and although I can't stand her, she is playing the game. Instead of looking so miserable all the time, why doesn't he try and save himself by trying to coax Robert to use the veto, if it isn't too late now. I would at least give it a try with all that money at stake.
EddyBee
11-08-2003
What firm clues have we had to suggest that Nathan as opposed to Jack is going this week ?

Jack is a far more dangerous player for the stooges to leave in the game. If the stooges elect to evict Nathan instead of Jack it's because they prefer the company of the latter despite the fact that they know that he is far more capable of doing their cause far greater damage.
Desi
11-08-2003
With Nathan gone Justin has a greater chance of manipulating Alislut, this gives the X Men another ally in the house. I think this is how Justin is thinking. He does seem to know her well enough to avoid nomination last week and knows she will do anything to avoid being seen as a target ie throw competitions, and that is something he can use to advantage.

Personally, I think it would be more in their interests to dump Jack now. They hold Nate's life in the house in their hands, they let him stay he has to join them or ruin any chance of winning he might have. Nate cannot lie about not going after the X Men next week or none of them would vote for him when the time comes. With Jack gone the only one really able to nominate an ex would be Erika.

Still it looks like they have firmly decided against Nate and honestly I'd be tempted to throw him out for his sulky behaviour since noms. Think this will come back to haunt Justin this week if Jack or Erika get HOH.
Susann
11-08-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Eejay
What firm clues have we had to suggest that Nathan as opposed to Jack is going this week ? ”

We don't, but Jun made it quite clear to Nathan last night, that he is a dead cert to go, so maybe she knows which way they are voting.

But I hav a sneaky feeling if Jack or Erika loses HoH next week and don't gain the PoV, Jack will be out next week anyway. I just can't see him surviving much longer in there.
gemz1978
11-08-2003
I think he should go. I agree with Susann - he used the veto on who he thought was his own strong alliance - Allislut - only to be used totally and left to watch her chatting up the three stooges. Now all he's doing in moping around defensively, he needs to strike some deals, or else he's outta there...

I heard and Jack and Ericka talking about losing the competitions a few days ago. They admitted by losing out on the power, they are not involved in any house scuffles and stand a good chance of going far....
swingaleg
11-08-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Eejay
What firm clues have we had to suggest that Nathan as opposed to Jack is going this week ?

Jack is a far more dangerous player for the stooges to leave in the game. If the stooges elect to evict Nathan instead of Jack it's because they prefer the company of the latter despite the fact that they know that he is far more capable of doing their cause far greater damage.
”

They've already decided that Nathan is for the chop

The stooges believe, rightly or wrongly, that Jack is incapable of winning HOH or POV, and therefore poses no threat to them

I kinda like Jack even though he has been a foot soldier of the regime
gemz1978
11-08-2003
Quote:
“The stooges believe, rightly or wrongly, that Jack is incapable of winning HOH or POV, and therefore poses no threat to them”

Surely not winning would make Jack's stay a little longer tho and therefore more of a threat?

He could win HOH or POV next week, make a bad decision, then be up on the block, the majority wanting him out. He's been up a few times, but not rifled many feathers and been up against more worthy targets than himself so far.
swingaleg
11-08-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by gemz1978
Surely not winning would make Jack's stay a little longer tho and therefore more of a threat?
”

Well, somebody is going to stay, it might as well be a guy who isn't going to win HOH and put two of the three stooges on the block. This would be their thinking

Either Nat or Jack would nominate two of the three stooges, so you get rid of the one who seems most likely to win HOH, in their view that is Nathan
gemz1978
11-08-2003
Hmm... yeh i can see that now. I guess no one really knows where they stand with Jack.

Def Nate for the chop tho.
sympathy
11-08-2003
I have a soft spot for Nate but he should go if only because he took Alislut off the block. Jack's dangerous but he doesnt win comps so he can go next week if the stooges get HoH on Wednesday.
alana
12-08-2003
Nat is as good as out the door.. He deserves it for saving Alislut. Silly because that girl is so sly she could not be trusted. Now all he does is sulk, whisper and whine like a big kid.
sawfish
13-08-2003
Nathan the childish backstabbing ponce definitely deserves to go, the only reason anyone could have for liking him is his looks.
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