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Do the final candidates work for Sir Alan before he makes decision?
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bigstrictlyfan
11-06-2008
I heard that they film two different endings, and that the final candidates actually work for Sir Alan for a few months before he makes the decision.

Does anyone know if this is true?
Katenutzs
11-06-2008
Yes they work for him for almost 6 months
AlfieandCharlie
11-06-2008
What? Really?
muffin the mule
12-06-2008
I had heard that the last two worked for suralan before he made his final decision.

When Lee & Claire were interviewed on 5live this morning Lee was asked what had he been doing since the last task was completed a few months ago and there was a silence from him. Then Claire spoke up and said there were things that went on in the apprentice which they couldn't talk about because of the confidentiality agreement and the subject was changed..
FOXPRESIDENT
12-06-2008
They did this last year - and im sure it got mentioned by someone on these forums as it had been either broadcast or mentioned somewhere...

I think you get the impression I don't know where it was mentioned
The Rhydler
12-06-2008
Surely Alex and Helene worked for him to? or was their firing filmed months before the final lee and claire showdown?
Cent
13-06-2008
The boardroom set is not put back up again for one scene - so two endings are filmed - one with Lee winning, one with Claire winning.

They both work for him for 6 months and a couple of days before You're Hired/You're Fired! films he makes his final decision and tells them privately.

Two episodes have been prepared, one with Lee winning, one with Claire winning and Sir Alan just has to tell the BBC which one to show.
soulmate61
13-06-2008
Dear oh dear, these machinations are more insincere than saying you went to uni for 2 years.
The Rhydler
14-06-2008
No-one's answered my Alex and Helene point
J9666
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“No-one's answered my Alex and Helene point”

I don't think SAS got to be a multi-millionaire by paying three "losers" for six months.

Seriously, I'm pretty sure it was openly admitted in the first series that the two finalists had worked for him for several months between filming and transmission, and I think it was implied it also happened in subsequent series. He would normally have been preparing two jobs for the two finalists; not sure he could have rustled up 4 jobs which would have been suitably challenging for the purpose, and like I say, would he have wanted to pay for it?
The Rhydler
14-06-2008
So how did they keep the winner a secret even though Alex and Helene didn't make it to only the last scene of the final
apprentice_fan
14-06-2008
Alex and Helene were immediately fired after the task. Helene wasn't offered a job with SAS. The Viglen guy (Bordon) was so impressed by Alex in the interviews and he gave him a job as a sales manager in Viglen (a short contract - 3 months). Alex completed the three months and didn't renew the contract. I think he found a better job in another company or returned to his old one.

Both Claire and Lee worked for SAS for over 6 months awaiting the final results. SAS made his decision last Monday just before filming the You're fired show.
J9666
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“So how did they keep the winner a secret even though Alex and Helene didn't make it to only the last scene of the final”

Confidentiality clauses in their contracts.
hia06sw
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by apprentice_fan:
“The Viglen guy (Bordon) was so impressed by Alex in the interviews and he gave him a job as a sales manager in Viglen (a short contract - 3 months). Alex completed the three months and didn't renew the contract. I think he found a better job in another company or returned to his old one. ”

Bordan was interested because of Alex's commission only basis roles. Was his role for Viglen on those terms?
soulmate61
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by apprentice_fan:
“Alex and Helene were immediately fired after the task. Helene wasn't offered a job with SAS. The Viglen guy (Bordon) was so impressed by Alex in the interviews and he gave him a job as a sales manager in Viglen (a short contract - 3 months). Alex completed the three months and didn't renew the contract. I think he found a better job in another company or returned to his old one.

Both Claire and Lee worked for SAS for over 6 months awaiting the final results. SAS made his decision last Monday just before filming the You're fired show.”

If keeping the final two candidates working for 6 months was a desperate ploy to maintain public suspense and make sure nobody but SAS really knew the final winner until transmission day, then fair enough.

But if SAS filmed 2 endings because he himself could not decide 6 months ago who was the better candidate, then the show is a fraud. The public tuned in to see if SAS could suss out a complex problem very quickly and arrive at the right answer. If he actually needed 6 months observation of performance, well, after that length of time everybody in the office would know who is the better candidate.

Of the 2 reasons above, which one was applicable?
abercrombie
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by centrino04:
“The boardroom set is not put back up again for one scene - so two endings are filmed - one with Lee winning, one with Claire winning.

They both work for him for 6 months and a couple of days before You're Hired/You're Fired! films he makes his final decision and tells them privately.

Two episodes have been prepared, one with Lee winning, one with Claire winning and Sir Alan just has to tell the BBC which one to show.”

Hi Centrino,

If you don't mind my saying, but this is completely unbelievable. How did they get Claire to cry while filming a fake you're fired? Did they tell her there were no more chocolate eclairs?- and Lee himself was so overwhelmed he couldn't speak.

If it was really merely filming for the sake of having a surprise ending, they wouldn't have had so much emotion!!!
Quizmike
15-06-2008
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“If keeping the final two candidates working for 6 months was a desperate ploy to maintain public suspense and make sure nobody but SAS really knew the final winner until transmission day, then fair enough.

But if SAS filmed 2 endings because he himself could not decide 6 months ago who was the better candidate, then the show is a fraud. The public tuned in to see if SAS could suss out a complex problem very quickly and arrive at the right answer. If he actually needed 6 months observation of performance, well, after that length of time everybody in the office would know who is the better candidate.

Of the 2 reasons above, which one was applicable?”

As put by Lee and Claire themselves in an interview, it is very difficult for the finalists to work elsewhere before the results are broadcast. Therefore, Sralan "looks after them". Read into that what you will.

Originally Posted by abercrombie:
“Hi Centrino,

If you don't mind my saying, but this is completely unbelievable. How did they get Claire to cry while filming a fake you're fired? Did they tell her there were no more chocolate eclairs?- and Lee himself was so overwhelmed he couldn't speak.

If it was really merely filming for the sake of having a surprise ending, they wouldn't have had so much emotion!!!”

This has been the way for all series of the show. I think that Simon last year found out the day before transmission that he has won. It was well reported at the time that he and Kristina kept laughing when each of them were announced as winners (many times due to retakes).
Miss_Moo
15-06-2008
Originally Posted by apprentice_fan:
“Alex and Helene were immediately fired after the task. Helene wasn't offered a job with SAS. The Viglen guy (Bordon) was so impressed by Alex in the interviews and he gave him a job as a sales manager in Viglen (a short contract - 3 months). Alex completed the three months and didn't renew the contract. I think he found a better job in another company or returned to his old one.

Both Claire and Lee worked for SAS for over 6 months awaiting the final results. SAS made his decision last Monday just before filming the You're fired show.”

It said in The Sun yesterday that Alex was offered a job as well as he couldn't look for a new one until the series had finished.
jjackson42
15-06-2008
The Badger mentioned that she worked for SAS for six months before the final.

I understand the final selection interview - i.e. Lee and Clair, IS filmed immediately prior to the final.

Sending them off to Viglen under Bordan Tkachuk for 6 months is actually pretty good. SAS avoids being drawn in too closely to the candidates, and Borden can really test them to see who fits in best.

This also fits well with various reported sighting of them and Alex over the last couple of months in the St. Albans area.
jjackson42
15-06-2008
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apprentice_fan
15-06-2008
Originally Posted by Miss_Moo:
“It said in The Sun yesterday that Alex was offered a job as well as he couldn't look for a new one until the series had finished.”

Alex worked for Viglen for 3 months only. So he finished around January. By the that time he found a job a the series hadn't started yet.

SAS does't employ the candidates unless they are in the final 2. Alex was an exception because Bordon admired his sales ability and he was only given a short contract unlike the two finalists.
apprentice_fan
15-06-2008
Originally Posted by jjackson42:
“This also fits well with various reported sighting of them and Alex over the last couple of months in the St. Albans area.”

The reported sighting was of Lee and Claire not Alex. Alex was seen many times i other places in the noeth. In fact Alex is the "hot" candidate who quit the job after a few months. He didn't actually quit. He was offered a short term contract and he left after the three months for a new job.
jjackson42
15-06-2008
Originally Posted by apprentice_fan:
“The reported sighting was of Lee and Claire not Alex. Alex was seen many times i other places in the noeth. In fact Alex is the "hot" candidate who quit the job after a few months. He didn't actually quit. He was offered a short term contract and he left after the three months for a new job.”

It all works, both ways. I am sure I saw mention of Alex and Claire being seen together at some stage, and if there all at Viglen, that would be very possible - although of no importance.
soulmate61
15-06-2008
All this pretence. How can so many secrets be concealed in an open society? Eventually the tabloids will blow the lid right off, exposing the final 2 candidates right from round 1, destroying viewers' appetite.

What are the reasons for filming 6 monts before transmission?
The-Apprentice
15-06-2008
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“All this pretence. How can so many secrets be concealed in an open society? Eventually the tabloids will blow the lid right off, exposing the final 2 candidates right from round 1, destroying viewers' appetite.

What are the reasons for filming 6 monts before transmission?”

I've wondered why that is also, surely filming could start at the beginning of the year and even be continuing when the first episode is broadcast, there should be no reason for it to take so long, except perhaps for Sir Alan's schedule.
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