8MP SE Cybeshot phone

Ricardodaforce · 12-06-2008, 10:37

I'm surprised no one has picked up on this. Soon 5MP camera phones will be old hat.

Gormond · 12-06-2008, 11:16

The MP race reminds me of the MHz race, MP doesn't dictate how good the quality of the camera is.

You just can't beat a dedicated camera even if its just for optical zoom.

BT@home · 12-06-2008, 11:34

They need to do some serious work on the samples, those shown are awful. So i guess that they have 6 months (or more) to get it right.

Ben Williams · 12-06-2008, 19:52

I'm pretty sure my k800i's 3.2mp camera could take better pics than the samples for that phone

CoolboyA · 12-06-2008, 21:06

Looks great - 10x better than the ugly C902.

Lets hope it blows us away when it comes out

Gormond · 12-06-2008, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolboyA

Looks great - 10x better than the ugly C902.

Lets hope it blows us away when it comes out

Better off with a stand alone camera like a Panasonic Lumix, Much better quality and a 10x optical zoom

CoolboyA · 13-06-2008, 01:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gormond

Better off with a stand alone camera like a Panasonic Lumix, Much better quality and a 10x optical zoom

But with that comes extra money needed. Its all very good if you have the money.

Anyway, the cameras on the SE phones are nothing to be sneared at. All preview images are crap from SE - They keep the best till last

The new K850i's camera is great considering it is on a phone. The leading in phone cameras tend to be SE/
Nokia with nit much between them.

Talizman · 13-06-2008, 06:42

I wonder if the video capture will be as abysmal as the rest of the SE range. They really need to take Nokia's lead. Even the 3 year old 6280 has a better video recorder than the k800i, k850i etc

13-06-2008, 06:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gormond

The MP race reminds me of the MHz race, MP doesn't dictate how good the quality of the camera is.

You just can't beat a dedicated camera even if its just for optical zoom.

Yup. Also comes down to the lens and CMOS sensor. I think its a gimmick used to off load cheap cameras onto a mass market.

Gormond · 13-06-2008, 08:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolboyA

But with that comes extra money needed. Its all very good if you have the money.

Anyway, the cameras on the SE phones are nothing to be sneared at. All preview images are crap from SE - They keep the best till last

The new K850i's camera is great considering it is on a phone. The leading in phone cameras tend to be SE/
Nokia with nit much between them.

My N95 takes terrible picture in comparison to a dedicated camera.

The Phazer · 13-06-2008, 13:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by tn2000

Yup. Also comes down to the lens and CMOS sensor. I think its a gimmick used to off load cheap cameras onto a mass market.

Yes, certainly true after 5 megapixels. Indeed, given the size of the CMOS you're probably losing image quality overall because of the additonal processing noise.

That said, Sony's phone camera lenses are generally better than their competitors (the Viewty's is good). They're a little bit bigger for a start which reduces aberations etc.

You're never going to replace owning a camera with your phone, but most camera phone pictures are probably taken on nights out, so good performance in tricky low light situations is very helpful.

Phazer

BT@home · 14-06-2008, 09:16

I would agree the before 5mp the SE cameras were better but since 5mp came around the SE cameras appear to be behind others. Certainly from what i have been reading the N82 is top dog and K850i is performing below par (ignoring even the other software issues is appears to have).

CoolboyA · 19-06-2008, 14:18

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso...review-258.php
Looks really nice. i just hope 3 get in on contract by Jan '09 :]

kyussmondo · 20-06-2008, 18:29

Of course the pictures are going to be a bit grainy showing them at the maximum size. They do look much better in the link CoolboyA shows. Pretty impressive for a phone. Although, I'll keep my trusty Olympus E-410 SLR for now lol.

BT@home · 20-06-2008, 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyussmondo

Of course the pictures are going to be a bit grainy showing them at the maximum size. They do look much better in the link CoolboyA shows. Pretty impressive for a phone. Although, I'll keep my trusty Olympus E-410 SLR for now lol.

Quality of the pics can only be judged at full resolution.

The pics shown in that preview have been photo edited/resized, there is no point in doing any comparisons with photo edited pics as you are then comparing the quality of the editing software not the phone output.

12-06-2008, 10:37	#1
Ricardodaforce Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alacant Posts: 7,773	8MP SE Cybeshot phone I'm surprised no one has picked up on this. Soon 5MP camera phones will be old hat.

12-06-2008, 11:16	#2
Gormond Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 15,714	The MP race reminds me of the MHz race, MP doesn't dictate how good the quality of the camera is. You just can't beat a dedicated camera even if its just for optical zoom.

12-06-2008, 11:34	#3
BT@home Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,911	They need to do some serious work on the samples, those shown are awful. So i guess that they have 6 months (or more) to get it right.

12-06-2008, 19:52	#4
Ben Williams Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Welwyn Garden City, Herts! Posts: 550	I'm pretty sure my k800i's 3.2mp camera could take better pics than the samples for that phone

12-06-2008, 21:06	#5
CoolboyA Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alba Posts: 10,181	Looks great - 10x better than the ugly C902. Lets hope it blows us away when it comes out

12-06-2008, 22:15	#6
Gormond Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 15,714	Quote: Originally Posted by CoolboyA Looks great - 10x better than the ugly C902. Lets hope it blows us away when it comes out Better off with a stand alone camera like a Panasonic Lumix, Much better quality and a 10x optical zoom

13-06-2008, 01:06	#7
CoolboyA Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alba Posts: 10,181	Quote: Originally Posted by Gormond Better off with a stand alone camera like a Panasonic Lumix, Much better quality and a 10x optical zoom But with that comes extra money needed. Its all very good if you have the money. Anyway, the cameras on the SE phones are nothing to be sneared at. All preview images are crap from SE - They keep the best till last The new K850i's camera is great considering it is on a phone. The leading in phone cameras tend to be SE/ Nokia with nit much between them.

13-06-2008, 06:42	#8
Talizman Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a journey Posts: 1,901	I wonder if the video capture will be as abysmal as the rest of the SE range. They really need to take Nokia's lead. Even the 3 year old 6280 has a better video recorder than the k800i, k850i etc

13-06-2008, 06:51	#9
tn2000 Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by Gormond The MP race reminds me of the MHz race, MP doesn't dictate how good the quality of the camera is. You just can't beat a dedicated camera even if its just for optical zoom. Yup. Also comes down to the lens and CMOS sensor. I think its a gimmick used to off load cheap cameras onto a mass market.

13-06-2008, 08:38	#10
Gormond Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 15,714	Quote: Originally Posted by CoolboyA But with that comes extra money needed. Its all very good if you have the money. Anyway, the cameras on the SE phones are nothing to be sneared at. All preview images are crap from SE - They keep the best till last The new K850i's camera is great considering it is on a phone. The leading in phone cameras tend to be SE/ Nokia with nit much between them. My N95 takes terrible picture in comparison to a dedicated camera.

13-06-2008, 13:21	#11
The Phazer Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 8,213	Quote: Originally Posted by tn2000 Yup. Also comes down to the lens and CMOS sensor. I think its a gimmick used to off load cheap cameras onto a mass market. Yes, certainly true after 5 megapixels. Indeed, given the size of the CMOS you're probably losing image quality overall because of the additonal processing noise. That said, Sony's phone camera lenses are generally better than their competitors (the Viewty's is good). They're a little bit bigger for a start which reduces aberations etc. You're never going to replace owning a camera with your phone, but most camera phone pictures are probably taken on nights out, so good performance in tricky low light situations is very helpful. Phazer

14-06-2008, 09:16	#12
BT@home Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,911	I would agree the before 5mp the SE cameras were better but since 5mp came around the SE cameras appear to be behind others. Certainly from what i have been reading the N82 is top dog and K850i is performing below par (ignoring even the other software issues is appears to have).

19-06-2008, 14:18	#13
CoolboyA Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alba Posts: 10,181	http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso...review-258.php Looks really nice. i just hope 3 get in on contract by Jan '09 :]

20-06-2008, 18:29	#14
kyussmondo Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 1,731	Of course the pictures are going to be a bit grainy showing them at the maximum size. They do look much better in the link CoolboyA shows. Pretty impressive for a phone. Although, I'll keep my trusty Olympus E-410 SLR for now lol.

20-06-2008, 20:04	#15
BT@home Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,911	Quote: Originally Posted by kyussmondo Of course the pictures are going to be a bit grainy showing them at the maximum size. They do look much better in the link CoolboyA shows. Pretty impressive for a phone. Although, I'll keep my trusty Olympus E-410 SLR for now lol. Quality of the pics can only be judged at full resolution. The pics shown in that preview have been photo edited/resized, there is no point in doing any comparisons with photo edited pics as you are then comparing the quality of the editing software not the phone output.

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