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the stage interview with amy, tara, fran, sam, jessie and jodie
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Flamethrower100
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by LaLaLaur:
“Flamethrower, Tara's been getting pretty good reviews for touring Jo I think she made a very good point (one which DSers have been making too!) when she said that Nancy wouldn't be singing like Mariah Carey. Obviously she, and I'd imagine a lot of the other girls, weren't 100% comfortable singing pop songs and they probably all suffered for it. Even Sarah, who was vocally flawless throughout her time on IDA, has said that she was singing songs she wouldn't normally be singing. I guess it's a lot to do with how well your voice is suited to specific genres. I'd say from the sing off and ALAHNM, that Tara was pretty comfortable with MT numbers, and that's what Joseph will be allowing her to sing I thought it was quite amusing when she said the cast of touring Jo were worried about her joining the cast...

She came across as genuinely nice, and I'd really like to see her in Joseph (if it weren't sold out...) The repetition of the fact she had bronchitus was a bit grating though, but I can fully understand why she'd want to get it out there - she's probably a lot better than what we saw on IDA. Take Fran as another example, there were a few inconsitencies in her upper register on IDA, but if you listen to recordings of her in Rent, or watch that clip of her singing ALAHNM from her concert in Wales, she's mindblowingly good! Seriously amazing! I guess the pressure of live TV and other factors will influence the quality of performance that each girl gives, and some will react to it worse than others.”

No agree with you. Just saying that Tara, didn't have a stand out vioce. That doesn't mean I think she's a bad person or a bad performer.
But I can't say I believe that she was that ill. She seemed ok on the missions.
Well maybe she was. I don't know, do I.

I don't think that she has the personality for Reality tv. Not many people do. It must just tear you apart.
thenetworkbabe
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by Flamethrower100:
“No agree with you. Just saying that Tara, didn't have a stand out vioce. That doesn't mean I think she's a bad person or a bad performer.
But I can't say I believe that she was that ill. She seemed ok on the missions.
Well maybe she was. I don't know, do I.

I don't think that she has the personality for Reality tv. Not many people do. It must just tear you apart.”

Bronchitis isn't like that though - it even comes in acute and chronic versions. its perfectly credible that she had a persistent problem left by bronchitis - I had a cough for years .

I thought Tara was truly stitched up. They dressed her like Dorothy skipping along the yellowbrick road or someone at a High School prom and choregraphed her accordingly. She was bound to look unsuitable singing stuff that was nothing to do with Nancy and looking anything but.

There's also the big problems of how the pros cope with adapting to the studio sound, the small screen or non MT numbers. That seems to end up with people who could do the job either looking odd or sounding odd in every series and then going on to future jobs where the fact that they are so focused in their training on MT performances means they are consistently very good.
CASPER1066
14-06-2008
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Originally Posted by ScottMatthewman:
“They were done last week -- i.e., the first few days after the final. They only went online now because we needed to coincide the podcast release with the print feature the interviews were originally designed for.”
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Scott you got any gossip for us....

its awfully quiet now the show has gone. Have you heard anything about Cam not liking Jodie etc.
BuddyBontheNet
14-06-2008
To to make it clear, I'm not saying Tara isn't a good singer, just that for me she didn't come across well on the podcast.
CASPER1066
14-06-2008
lol@buddy...........we make it clear next time.........lol
qwertyqueen
14-06-2008
I wish Amy had stayed longer - she seemed to have a nice personality, and we didn't really get to see what she could do.
CASPER1066
14-06-2008
I think in their world nice personality doesnt come into it...its talent first then sort out the smiling for the camera PR.
qwertyqueen
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“I think in their world nice personality doesnt come into it...its talent first then sort out the smiling for the camera PR.”

Looks and personality are probably a bit more important than talent in these shows. Amy didn't seem to have the best voice, but "Respect" wasn't a great song choice. She seems to be quite articulate and down-to-earth, which is more than can be said for some of the other girls.
CASPER1066
14-06-2008
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Originally Posted by qwertyqueen:
“Looks and personality are probably a bit more important than talent in these shows. Amy didn't seem to have the best voice, but "Respect" wasn't a great song choice. She seems to be quite articulate and down-to-earth, which is more than can be said for some of the other girls.”
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Paying £60.00 per head for a ticket I couldnt care less if they are good to their cat or mother, go to church etc. I want someone on stage who can sing and act........I dont care if they look like models or not..........I want them to do the job they are getting paid to do and that it reflects the ticket price I have to pay to see that performance.......
qwertyqueen
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“Paying £60.00 per head for a ticket I couldnt care less if they are good to their cat or mother, go to church etc. I want someone on stage who can sing and act........I dont care if they look like models or not..........I want them to do the job they are getting paid to do and that it reflects the ticket price I have to pay to see that performance.......”

I don't either, but reality shows are always going to be largely personality contests. If someone clearly can't sing, then they probably won't last long though (unless they're "amusing" like Chico) As I've already said countless times, Sam got as far as she did because of her striking talent and stunning...personality
CASPER1066
14-06-2008
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Originally Posted by qwertyqueen:
“I don't either, but reality shows are always going to be largely personality contests. If someone clearly can't sing, then they probably won't last long though (unless they're "amusing" like Chico) As I've already said countless times, Sam got as far as she did because of her striking talent and stunning...personality”
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yes a size 8 personality will always go down well with a mostly male panel, no matter where their personal likes or dislikes take them.....or age for that matter..

Give's a new meaning to Google.......


I try not to watch any other reality TV this one and SCD take up enough of my time as it is.....

I also think the public dont get hook winked as easy now with the rubbish the show and the panel put out. They believe their own eyes and ears now. I think the panel feeding out the rubbish did an injustice to their credibility, as the so called professionals we thought they would be fair. Three shows in we know now thats rubbish and believe in ourselves more. Much to the disregard of what the panel now tells us.

Their own fault.......
Flamethrower100
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“Paying £60.00 per head for a ticket I couldnt care less if they are good to their cat or mother, go to church etc. I want someone on stage who can sing and act........I dont care if they look like models or not..........I want them to do the job they are getting paid to do and that it reflects the ticket price I have to pay to see that performance.......”

Well I wouldn't go and see someone who was a known nut case or a really nasty person. Becasuse I would just spend the whole time, hating them, no matter how good their vioce was.
Not sure I care what they look like.
But you must admit that if they have a good personality it reflects in their performences.
qwertyqueen
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by Flamethrower100:
“Well I wouldn't go and see someone who was a known nut case or a really nasty person. Becasuse I would just spend the whole time, hating them, no matter how good their vioce was.
Not sure I care what they look like.
But you must admit that if they have a good personality it reflects in their performences.”

We don't really know what anyone is like behind closed doors.
Flamethrower100
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by qwertyqueen:
“We don't really know what anyone is like behind closed doors.”

No but it's all about if you really think that they are being themselves or not. And what their friends and family say about them.

No we don't know what everyone is like behind closed doors that's true. All I'm saying is that people with fake personalities often look fake when singing and acting.
CASPER1066
14-06-2008
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Originally Posted by Flamethrower100:
“Well I wouldn't go and see someone who was a known nut case or a really nasty person. Becasuse I would just spend the whole time, hating them, no matter how good their vioce was.
Not sure I care what they look like.
But you must admit that if they have a good personality it reflects in their performences.”
”

No I wouldnt say their good personality comes out in their performance or should it. They are playing a different character and its that I want to see. If the go to church or sing to the cat or feed the homeless, its not THEM I am paying to see its the character in the show I am paying to see.
LaLaLaur
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“No I wouldnt say their good personality comes out in their performance or should it. They are playing a different character and its that I want to see. If the go to church or sing to the cat or feed the homeless, its not THEM I am paying to see its the character in the show I am paying to see.”

That may be the case, but on reality TV personality always counts for something. I think that Jodie's personality was a huge factor in why she won. *shrug* She was talented and suited to the role, but there's no denying her bubbliness and outgoing personality influenced the public's opionions of her... (Don't get me wrong, I love her! )

Plus, if personality wasn't a factor why did the panel - inclusding ALW - keep saying that contestants, namely Jessie and Rachel, needed to "put themselves into the song" (or words to that effect!)


Anywhoo, sorry to stray off the topic! I think all the Nancies came across really really well.
Flamethrower100
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“No I wouldnt say their good personality comes out in their performance or should it. They are playing a different character and its that I want to see. If the go to church or sing to the cat or feed the homeless, its not THEM I am paying to see its the character in the show I am paying to see.”

It should. It brings something different to the character.
Jodie for example isn't Nancy. Becasue Nancy obviously isn't a real person. Therefore her own personality will show in her performences and bring something different to the charactor of Nancy. Actors may be nothing like the people they play on stage or an tv. But I think a strong personality helps. Also John Barrowman brings a lot of his own personality into his performences and acting.
supergirlblibs
14-06-2008
Does anybody know whether retail shops around the UK stock Ths Stage...I want to read it and can't find it anywhere!!
qwertyqueen
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by Flamethrower100:
“It should. It brings something different to the character.
Jodie for example isn't Nancy. Becasue Nancy obviously isn't a real person. Therefore her own personality will show in her performences and bring something different to the charactor of Nancy. Actors may be nothing like the people they play on stage or an tv. But I think a strong personality helps. Also John Barrowman brings a lot of his own personality into his performences and acting.”

It is a factor, but a good actor should largely be able to become the character they're playing - John has been guilty of playing different versions of himself in the past.

A strong personality could actually hinder an actor if they aren't able to take on other character traits and keep their own under wraps.

With regards to Nancy, I hope that Jodie can portray the darker side of Nancy well, as there's a danger that she'll only be able to do the warm, bubbly side of Nancy, which would be a bit of a thin caricature.
LaLaLaur
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by supergirlblibs:
“Does anybody know whether retail shops around the UK stock Ths Stage...I want to read it and can't find it anywhere!!”

I used to buy it WHSmith, but last time I looked I couldn't find it
supergirlblibs
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by LaLaLaur:
“I used to buy it WHSmith, but last time I looked I couldn't find it ”

Rubbish...I'll have a proper look tomorrow
Flamethrower100
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by qwertyqueen:
“It is a factor, but a good actor should largely be able to become the character they're playing - John has been guilty of playing different versions of himself in the past.

A strong personality could actually hinder an actor if they aren't able to take on other character traits and keep their own under wraps.

With regards to Nancy, I hope that Jodie can portray the darker side of Nancy well, as there's a danger that she'll only be able to do the warm, bubbly side of Nancy, which would be a bit of a thin caricature.”

Yes I guess it all depends on whether they are good enough at acting to make sure that they can portray the character well, while bringing something original to the part.
Being able to become another person on stage is not one of JB's strong points, but he still seems to have done well for himself.
Flamethrower100
14-06-2008
Jodie may not be able to portay the darker side of Nancy as convincingly as the warmer side. But She will have training for that.
All I'm saying is that hate it when some actors try to immitate other actors, in an effort to be traditional.
All the Nancys in the films have been different, but most have been good in their own way.
ScottMatthewman
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by LaLaLaur:
“I used to buy it WHSmith, but last time I looked I couldn't find it ”

we're stocked in most high street WH Smith stores (and some rail/airport ones). As a tabloid sized paper, though, different stores often stock us in different places. For example, my local WHS stocks us underneath Motorcycle News and above Dogs Today...

Generally, it's worth asking in the store if you can't immediately see it!
supergirlblibs
14-06-2008
Cheers Scott! Its in the issue out at the moment yes??!!
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