Is that rhyming slang for tossers?

LOL whoops....

I wonder what is of Michael. I can see his chances of new employment being slim after his stint at becoming TA. Has he returned to his former role?

Yep, and same goes for Kevin and Jenny C *cringe*

Depends how hard they try! Simon (perceived "good bloke") is back where he was, with promotion and much more money. I believe Helene is back where she was - after all she WAS a Global Pricing Fuhrer!!!

Michael (perceived complete tw..at!) is probably finding it hard to gain proper employment.

Daffyd still thinks he won, and keeps turning up every morning in Brentford.


Andy - Series 1, reckoned even if you lost it is good on your CV BUT YOU HAD TO MARKET YOURSELF. He only made about £350 from "media opportunities".

Some of the candidates claimed to be earning more than the £100k on offer before they entered the comp.
Mind you, can you believe anything this bunch of jokers say?
They seem more suitable for market stalls which is probably why Sugar and his flunkies like them.

Yes, that is true, however, at least Jenny C has come out seemingly a lot more likeable then she was on the show and at least Kevin didn't have some kind of hidden story about him being a prozzy. My God has Michael got some work to do to clean up his image for a job which involves a larger pay packet - he hasn't done himself any favours by selling his past.


The dishonesty about a lot of the contenders' wages is very clear, especially with the bonuses that Claire claimed to have got through her work. The figures are simply not representative of what she achieved in terms of the profit the company raised. How honest a lot of them were beats me, however, most of them haven't been caught for dishonesty - especially Claire who had blatantly lied. And to say that Lee got all the flak for CV lies. Unjust.

No evidence she lied at all - just that her company doesn't have a very big bonus scheme. Lee claimed an education he had had never had - which displayed an incredible lack of judgement and was a pretty incredible lie anyway given his poor language skills.

Lee signed up for a 2-year catering course, not spelling course. If he can manage to spell "chips" he would be OK in catering.

It would be interesting to find out if Claire claimed in her written CV what she claimed verbally -- that she was personally responsible for x million pounds of profit earned by her firm, when it turned out a whole team jointly achieved it. Such exaggeration of her business achievement would be seriously misleading to an employer, while Lee's catering skills were seriously irrelevant to Amstrad. Claire was challenged about her claim by the sceptical interviewer, but no written letter was produced from her firm with a dramatic flourish at the interview.

Ruth Badger made a similar inflated claim. They are all at it.

If the BBC claimed SAS has amassed £800 million when in fact he has £50 million, that would be materially misleading to viewers who take his judgment on trust.

Sure, there's no evidence that she did lie, however, it's obvious she did. Also, how do you know her company doesn't give big bonuses? The way I see it, if you're responsible for giving a company mega profits then you receive a hefty bonus. She was claiming to have the made the company millions yet she only got £27,000 in bonuses? It's obvious she's been lying. It was unfair that Claire wasn't checked up on the same as Lee. Shows a major inconsistency in the interview process to me. It seems to me Lee was picked on. They all should have had their employment/educational backgrounds checked in order to be fair.

Well said. No question this happens to those who apply for a job at MI5. When they skipped on vigilance, they got Kim Philby.

If SAS were seriously headhunting he would no doubt check. But The Apprentice is also light entertainment whodunit, where the boss wants a chance to demonstrate dramatic and penetrating insight a la Hercules Poirot, with answers deduced lightning fast.

If they had checked up on one candidate's wellknown gambling, thieving and whoring, SAS would not have had his own credibility compromised through keeping that candidate on for so long.

Both Paul Tulip and Ruth badger made some fanciful claims about what they had achieved and the obvious thing was to check them out but they never did.

Yes, true say. Sir Alan would have had his whole Apprentice casting fired if that was the case! They all lied in some way. P.s. Do you think Raef lied to us?


Yes, which again highlights my point that every candidate should have their CV checked. For me, the Apprentice is the most obvious place for it. The earlier the CV is checked, the better. They have such a large number of people getting paid for participating in the production of the shows and yet lies get sieved through the system. I'm sure someone could lie about the job they had left before they went onto the show because even that wouldn't have been checked. This will have been Michael surely! Or maybe Ian?

Poco a poco, only a truly brave or foolhardy person would utter the two words "Raef" and "lied" in the Forum. Best to wear dark glasses and post under a pseudonym hired for the day, with a motorcycle standing by for a quick getaway.

As for candidates telling fibs. Each one who got into The Apprentice treating the experience like Big Brother, has kept out an applicant among the 20,000, possibly an applicant who told it straight on his or her CV, one who truly wants the job, not a speaking part on tele.

I've been hiding all day afraid, Polecate61, and They haven't got me yet. I must be doing something right! It's just that it's been claimed that Raef's business is worth a million. If this was the case, would he have continued with his business while employed by SAS? I love Raef though - I feel so rotten questioning him. Damn my questioning mind! No offence to anyone, but all BB type contestants (Michael, Claire..did I mention Michael) mentioned on this forum should be automatically transferred across to the BB forums where they can feel each others' brains for gooey content.

Do keep up your vigilance. They are everywhere.

Raef' business income which is beyond question goes to the upkeep of Raef's wardrobe which is even more beyond question.

Im pretty damn sure that Raef - and indeed the others with the possible exception of Michael - ALL wanted the Job!!

If Raef had won, I am sure he would have used the years experience with Siralun as a way of sharpening his own business expertise.

The selection process IS pretty daunting. To get on, you have to get past the first filtering of Application forms and CVs, then TWO interview processes.

His hankie collection is of great monetary value to the organisation, with the business striving to meet the needs of Raef's hanky within his pocket, as we speak. If his hanky happens to fall out of his pocket, this will cause massive losses.

I've never questioned whether or not he wanted the job with SAS or not, just wondered whether they were all completely truthful about their histories. However, if the filtering process is so good, then why did Lee's untruth slip through the net? It's all just about casting and confidence at the end of the day.

OK we found you pogo ogo and we will be vying for your blood in Raef's thread . HOW DARE YOU?!! Either your favourite quote is 'If I am faced with a situation that may cause mere mortals to quake...I don't' or you really have no idea what you'r in for.

As for exaggerating in CVs, I suspect all the candidates were very creative in their CVs. Otherwise, how did they get in the show in the first place?!! They might have exaggerated their achievements, personal experiences, parts that can't be checked. Alex's CV was a great example. How can you check if someone has "advanced" skills in YYY in an interview?!!How can you check if Claire was personally responsible for millions of profit?!!

I remember in series 2 both Michelle and Ansell admitted in the interviews that they lied before in their CVs to get their first jobs. Paul Tulip said that he lies and cheats every day.

"Bare in mind that the winner will be putting in 9 to 5 hard working days at work, this years winner Lee Mcqueen is working in Amshold on a new project. And others will go on to get plenty of media offers, job offers and other great deals."

Your post was quite realistic until you took a complete guess. I guess you didn't want Lee to win? You have no idea what happens, these guys have a job for life in their dream job and the losers go on to be losers without the job no matter how much money they make (Which isn't even the objective for them anyway). So the losers aren't 'better off' because they didn't get what they want.

Nora please ask The Raefelites to go easy on Pogo Ogo. You never know, Pogo could be only 24.

Has everybody forgotten? Jenny M claimed on camera to be the best salesperson in Europe. Michael declared in black and white that he was "a good Jewish boy".

The Apprentice series could be retitled:

The Bullsh*tter of the Year.

Agreed but Pogo Ogo can only use age as an execuse only ONCE. SAS has given this chance before to Michael and Alex and look what happened !!

Excuse my ignorance as I didn't see the second series, but was Paul a true gangster in the making? Or just a tw*t?


I thought I too was a Raefelite; one of you , I know what you think of me now. I'll leave.

Not to worry Pogo, Raef does not bear a grudge. He even had a laugh with Michael after Michael turned on him to save himself.

Mind you, it helps to have a millionpound business supplying matching hankies to fall back on. Does he have his suits made in Savile row and shirts made in Jermyn Street? Now that would really put a strain on 100K a year.