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abercrombie
14-06-2008
One thing that has been confusing me throughout this is the fact (for me) that Lee is the drop-dead gorgeous one that you would immediately notice if you walked into that room and Alex is just some lanky, ordinary-looking bloke with a jar of hair gel and too much time on his hands,

so...

*why*? did everyone go on about how gorgeous Alex is and no-one even mentioned Lee's amazing looks?
Muttley76
14-06-2008
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder because I don't think either of them are remotely attractive...now Simon on the other hand!!
whackyracer
14-06-2008
I have no idea. Lee has much nicer eyes and physique, but scrawny Alex was more popular. In his DS interview, Alex said he would topless shots if the money was right, now I would pay not to see that!

That's the trouble with having BB style people on the apprentice, people focus on the looks and nothing else. Just check out some of the pro Alex threads, people whittering on about how good he would look in his undercrackers!
Muttley76
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by whackyracer:
“I have no idea. Lee has much nicer eyes and physique, but scrawny Alex was more popular. In his DS interview, Alex said he would topless shots if the money was right, now I would pay not to see that!

That's the trouble with having BB style people on the apprentice, people focus on the looks and nothing else. Just check out some of the pro Alex threads, people whittering on about how good he would look in his undercrackers!”

I'm not really sure if that is the case, Alex is largely disliked from everything I have seen and read, but he does have his little fan club out there I'm sure....
whackyracer
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“I'm not really sure if that is the case, Alex is largely disliked from everything I have seen and read, but he does have his little fan club out there I'm sure....”

Not by teeny boppers, and they are the demographic for 'torso of the week' in things like heat magazine!
Muttley76
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by whackyracer:
“Not by teeny boppers, and they are the demographic for 'torso of the week' in things like heat magazine!”

I've read a lot of the comments on the Heat website so I'm not convinced on that front, tbh. Like I said I'm sure he has his fan club, but not sure it's exactly all encompassing....certainly the Heat crowd seem rather more taken with Raef than anyone.
whackyracer
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“I've read a lot of the comments on the Heat website so I'm not convinced on that front, tbh. Like I said I'm sure he has his fan club, but not sure it's exactly all encompassing....certainly the Heat crowd seem rather more taken with Raef than anyone.”

Dunno, i'm just basing it on what that annoying heat editor (Mark whatever his name is) said on YF.
Muttley76
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by whackyracer:
“Dunno, i'm just basing it on what that annoying heat editor (Mark whatever his name is) said on YF.”

Oh yeah, but I think in a way they are trying to influence their readership to some extent. Like in the early part of the series they were always covering Alex on their site and in their magazines, but it certainly reduced as the series progressed. No doubt Alex will pop up in Heat magazine, but then again so does Jade Goody and she isn't really very popular either....
2LO
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“Oh yeah, but I think in a way they are trying to influence their readership to some extent. Like in the early part of the series they were always covering Alex on their site and in their magazines, but it certainly reduced as the series progressed. No doubt Alex will pop up in Heat magazine, but then again so does Jade Goody and she isn't really very popular either....”

OMG!

The thought of the progeny of JG and AW has just popped, unwelcomed, into my head.

(Thank God I missed a step there )

I'm going out for some fresh air, now.
Muttley76
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by 2LO:
“OMG!

The thought of the progeny of JG and AW has just popped, unwelcomed, into my head.

(Thank God I missed a step there )

I'm going out for some fresh air, now.”

PMSL...sorry about that!!!!
Forever Awkward
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by abercrombie:
“One thing that has been confusing me throughout this is the fact (for me) that Lee is the drop-dead gorgeous one that you would immediately notice if you walked into that room and Alex is just some lanky, ordinary-looking bloke with a jar of hair gel and too much time on his hands,

so...

*why*? did everyone go on about how gorgeous Alex is and no-one even mentioned Lee's amazing looks?”

I think they're both very good looking guys.

Lee actually looks almost identical to an ex-boyfriend of mine. Same eyes, same hair, same nose, same smile, same skin, same height, .................. I bet you hate me now

Alex is more conventionally good looking, almost pretty. As has been said before, almost as if it were a derogatory term, he's boyband material. I don't think he's at all skinny (I don't actually have a problem with skinny men anway, I much prefer them to even the slightest amount of podge that I find off putting in even the most otherwise beautiful person). He's just very tall and still young. Some men take longer than others to fill out.

Lee is exactly that. A man with a man's build but he's not exactly at risk of bursting out of his clothes or breaking the scales either.
Forever Awkward
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“I'm not really sure if that is the case, Alex is largely disliked from everything I have seen and read, but he does have his little fan club out there I'm sure....”

I think you're opinion is clouding your eyesight and you only appear able to see and hear anti-Alex opinions.
Muttley76
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by Forever Awkward:
“I think you're opinion is clouding your eyesight and you only appear able to see and hear anti-Alex opinions.”

Not at all, I acknowledged he does have a fan club of sorts, but I have seen and heard very little that is positive about Alex, even in the media guardian, when they profiled the finalists they made a point of saying that Alex had lost a lot of support amongst the teen and female market because of how he had behaved on the show.
National Park
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“Not at all, I acknowledged he does have a fan club of sorts, but I have seen and heard very little that is positive about Alex, even in the media guardian, when they profiled the finalists they made a point of saying that Alex had lost a lot of support amongst the teen and female market because of how he had behaved on the show.”

Not something I can say I've noticed among females I know of any age.
2LO
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by Forever Awkward:
“... (I don't actually have a problem with skinny men anway, I much prefer them to even the slightest amount of podge that I find off putting in even the most otherwise beautiful person).”

My God!

If a man had posted that he would have been slaughtered.
Ocsic
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by abercrombie:
“One thing that has been confusing me throughout this is the fact (for me) that Lee is the drop-dead gorgeous one that you would immediately notice if you walked into that room and Alex is just some lanky, ordinary-looking bloke with a jar of hair gel and too much time on his hands,

so...

*why*? did everyone go on about how gorgeous Alex is and no-one even mentioned Lee's amazing looks?”

totally agree, and Ian was pretty hot too

Originally Posted by whackyracer:
“I have no idea. Lee has much nicer eyes and physique, but scrawny Alex was more popular. In his DS interview, Alex said he would topless shots if the money was right, now I would pay not to see that!

That's the trouble with having BB style people on the apprentice, people focus on the looks and nothing else. Just check out some of the pro Alex threads, people whittering on about how good he would look in his undercrackers!”

I really hope the money isn't right, Heat might as well draw a stickman and save their money.
hiawatha
14-06-2008
Both of them are fairly plain and vastly over rated in the looks department. In fact this applies to all of the attributes
required for business.
qwertyqueen
14-06-2008
Alex was always deceitful, but quite a few people seemed to forgive him in the beginning because of his looks. After what he did to Lucinda, I don't think many people like him.

It's funny that female contestants are never forgiven because of how they look - if anything, the good looking ones are more likely to be hated.
abercrombie
14-06-2008
Originally Posted by Forever Awkward:
“I think they're both very good looking guys.

snip

Alex is more conventionally good looking, almost pretty. As has been said before, almost as if it were a derogatory term, he's boyband material.

snip snip

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Well there you go: My point exactly. I can't think of one actually good looking person from a boy band. They are all normally plain guys who have had a lot of money thrown at them.

Alex is a normally plain guy who has had no money thrown at him.
PANNAL1
15-06-2008
Personally Simon was the sexiest guy this year, i also found Michael attractive, he had a gorgeous smile
vidalia
15-06-2008
I thought Sir Alan was sexier than any of the male contestants this year - and I don't find him sexy at all.
Give It Up
15-06-2008
Originally Posted by qwertyqueen:
“Alex was always deceitful, but quite a few people seemed to forgive him in the beginning because of his looks. After what he did to Lucinda, I don't think many people like him.

It's funny that female contestants are never forgiven because of how they look - if anything, the good looking ones are more likely to be hated.”

It's a well documented thing that pretty/beautiful/handsome or generally good looking people are more easily forgiven than those who are not.

Think back a few years to the hanging effigies of David Beckham after the 1998 World Cup and the death threats and other offences to Cristiano Ronaldo after the 2006 World Cup. How easily were they forgiven and forgotten?

As for what Alex did to Lucinda, what was wrong with that? It was nothing that any of the others shouldn't have done and didn't agree with, and nothing that I or anyone I know who I've spoken about it with wouldn't have done. After Lucinda's "performance" on You're Fired I was even more pleased that Alex did what he did. She really showed her true colours.

Originally Posted by abercrombie:
“Well there you go: My point exactly. I can't think of one actually good looking person from a boy band. They are all normally plain guys who have had a lot of money thrown at them.

Alex is a normally plain guy who has had no money thrown at him.”

It's all a matter of personal taste but no one has every got into a boyband through being hideously ugly.

Originally Posted by PANNAL1:
“ i also found Michael attractive, he had a gorgeous smile”

Michael, though far from ugly, had a horrible sickeningly slimey look about him.

Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“I've read a lot of the comments on the Heat website so I'm not convinced on that front, tbh. Like I said I'm sure he has his fan club, but not sure it's exactly all encompassing....certainly the Heat crowd seem rather more taken with Raef than anyone.”

We must be reading different sites.

Or maybe not. I have noticed that you twist and see things the way you want to support your ridiculously over the top anti-Alex standpoint.
apprentice_fan
15-06-2008
Originally Posted by Give It Up:
“As for what Alex did to Lucinda, what was wrong with that? It was nothing that any of the others shouldn't have done and didn't agree with, and nothing that I or anyone I know who I've spoken about it with wouldn't have done.”

SAS certainly didn't agree with it as he revealed in the You're fired show.
Give It Up
15-06-2008
Originally Posted by apprentice_fan:
“SAS certainly didn't agree with it as he revealed in the You're fired show.”

He said "I don't like someone doing my job for me". Something he said about several of the candidates for various reasons.

The problem is in this instance it didn't make sense. Alex was making him aware of something that had taken place in order that he could make an informed decision. He wasn't telling him what he should do. Once SAS had that knowledge, he could make whatever decision he wanted. If he had been in disagreement with what Alex did he could have fired him there and then but the fact is that in reality no boss dismisses an employee for letting him know about any issues in the camp. If that was the case, PAs would be out of a job every other day.

One thing I notice about SAS during interviews and recaps is that he contradicts himself and often appears to speak out of his posterior.
jjackson42
15-06-2008
Originally Posted by whackyracer:
“Dunno, i'm just basing it on what that annoying heat editor (Mark whatever his name is) said on YF.”

(Mark whatever his name is) is no longer there.
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