Is someone using my phone without me knowing?

woodpecker_pie · 12-08-2003, 22:45

I am on Orange PAYG. My balance was about £10 about 2 weeks ago, it is now down to zilch, i was alerted to the low credit by Orange SMS. I have not used the phone in the last 2 weeks apart from the odd text message per day, but that shouldnt cost me as i have the text saver pack which allows 5 texts a day for no charge.

Now at the same time as this has been happening, the first person on my phone number list has sent me a couple of text messages asking why im leaving them 4 minute voicemails, where just music is playing, I havent been and my outgoing call list confirms this, but they insist the voicemail is coming from my phone number!!

Can anyone suggest what is going on, has my phone been hacked???

Ps, noone else has used my phone in the last 2 weeks either.

I just want some reassurance im not going mad before i contact Orange.

Cheers

Jose Cardoso · 13-08-2003, 10:24

Perhaps your phone is accidentaly dialling out while in your pocket. It's happened a few times to my sis with me getting her "ghost" calls.

AVTECH · 13-08-2003, 11:40

Use the keypad lock facility.

Sounds like you are bumping the keys and "phantom phoning" your mate.

Craigywageybaby · 13-08-2003, 12:28

I done this a few times too, its usually the 1st person on my phone book that gets the mystery calls!

jonat8 · 13-08-2003, 12:49

Yeah I have both made and recieved a few of those "Phantom phone calls"... normally what happens is I hit the call button twice which on my phone dials the last person to either recieve or get a call from me. lol.
I have learnt to lock my phone all the time now

13-08-2003, 19:55

i ALWAYS use the keypad lock!

woodpecker_pie · 13-08-2003, 22:21

I guess phantom phoning is possible and as it is the first contact in my list even more so, but i still do not get how they dont register as calls made on my phone. I think i will contact CS and maybe get them to send a list of costs incurred recently.

wicket · 14-08-2003, 09:26

It will be phantom phoning definitely and for some reason it doesn't show up. My hubbie was on the mobile to one of his colleagues and somehow the mobile had also phoned my brother (who was top of his list), got his answer machine and his whole conversation was recorded. My brother figured out who had called and told us, we couldn't understand how it had happened but it did. We have put our own number at the top now so we will know if it happens again. My brother has had this happen to him on loads of other occasions too because he is on the top of most people's lists.

I have had phone calls and just thought it was kids playing around but thinking about it, it could be phantom calling again. Weird.

fodavoneboy · 16-08-2003, 02:42

well how's about you check your call register periodically and see who you're calling, just in case you are dialling out accidentally.

spent 4 years in the mobile phone industry and i've NEVER heard of cloning happening (and i believe that with digital security is nigh on impossible) so i really doubt that's your problem.

Matt2002 · 17-08-2003, 18:44

The thing with some phones (nokia's do this, not sure about any other brands) is that even if the keypad is locked, you can still call 999 or 112. This has happened to me so many times! Even if you dial two 9's, then the third one an hour later, it still allows you to call 999!

I wonder how many calls the emergency services get because of this ridiculous feature?

17-08-2003, 20:35

my sony does that

fodavoneboy · 17-08-2003, 21:58

if i remember correctly that's a legal thing so you can't get away from it...

anyway, i'm sure dialling 999 or 112 won't leave you with huge phone bills

17-08-2003, 23:10

ah but it uses battery life though!

thats expensive

tjclague · 17-08-2003, 23:35

yes it wud wast elecrticity

. wot u cud do is as a contact as 'AA' and put the number to 00 or summat, and so if you go into ur fonebook thn it'll most probs call aa by acident, and it wont work. i do sumat lyk tht cos keylock dont always work

tjc

17-08-2003, 23:37

aye or "ZZ"

JFC · 19-08-2003, 08:10

Set your first phone entry to

Name: Aardvark
Telephone number: leave blank.

Aardvark will appear first in your book and if you accidently "nob dial" someone, it will not connect.

*Jon B - Somerset* · 19-08-2003, 09:38

Yeah but with the 999 or 112 call feature it is stupid as it doesnt take long to unlock a phone.

Craigywageybaby · 19-08-2003, 11:29

Quote:

anyway, i'm sure dialling 999 or 112 won't leave you with huge phone bills

Its not the fact that it's expensive, you can get in trouble for hoax calling etc

*Jon B - Somerset* · 19-08-2003, 11:33

Yeah and when I did it by accident they didnt end the call until they had got my address and home number. I tried putting the phone down but they do something that doesn't let you put it down.

12-08-2003, 22:45	#1
woodpecker_pie Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 854	Is someone using my phone without me knowing? I am on Orange PAYG. My balance was about £10 about 2 weeks ago, it is now down to zilch, i was alerted to the low credit by Orange SMS. I have not used the phone in the last 2 weeks apart from the odd text message per day, but that shouldnt cost me as i have the text saver pack which allows 5 texts a day for no charge. Now at the same time as this has been happening, the first person on my phone number list has sent me a couple of text messages asking why im leaving them 4 minute voicemails, where just music is playing, I havent been and my outgoing call list confirms this, but they insist the voicemail is coming from my phone number!! Can anyone suggest what is going on, has my phone been hacked??? Ps, noone else has used my phone in the last 2 weeks either. I just want some reassurance im not going mad before i contact Orange. Cheers

19-08-2003, 08:10	#16
JFC Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London Posts: 538	Aardvark Set your first phone entry to Name: Aardvark Telephone number: leave blank. Aardvark will appear first in your book and if you accidently "nob dial" someone, it will not connect.

13-08-2003, 10:24	#2
Jose Cardoso Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: London Posts: 1,575	Perhaps your phone is accidentaly dialling out while in your pocket. It's happened a few times to my sis with me getting her "ghost" calls.

13-08-2003, 11:40	#3
AVTECH Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: AYR Posts: 1,345	Use the keypad lock facility. Sounds like you are bumping the keys and "phantom phoning" your mate.

13-08-2003, 12:28	#4
Craigywageybaby Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Darlington Posts: 3,211	I done this a few times too, its usually the 1st person on my phone book that gets the mystery calls!

13-08-2003, 12:49	#5
jonat8 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Norwich Posts: 1,584	Yeah I have both made and recieved a few of those "Phantom phone calls"... normally what happens is I hit the call button twice which on my phone dials the last person to either recieve or get a call from me. lol. I have learnt to lock my phone all the time now

13-08-2003, 19:55	#6
*dan* Posts: n/a	i ALWAYS use the keypad lock!

13-08-2003, 22:21	#7
woodpecker_pie Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 854	I guess phantom phoning is possible and as it is the first contact in my list even more so, but i still do not get how they dont register as calls made on my phone. I think i will contact CS and maybe get them to send a list of costs incurred recently.

14-08-2003, 09:26	#8
wicket Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: NE England Posts: 3,096	It will be phantom phoning definitely and for some reason it doesn't show up. My hubbie was on the mobile to one of his colleagues and somehow the mobile had also phoned my brother (who was top of his list), got his answer machine and his whole conversation was recorded. My brother figured out who had called and told us, we couldn't understand how it had happened but it did. We have put our own number at the top now so we will know if it happens again. My brother has had this happen to him on loads of other occasions too because he is on the top of most people's lists. I have had phone calls and just thought it was kids playing around but thinking about it, it could be phantom calling again. Weird.

16-08-2003, 02:42	#9
fodavoneboy Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 26	well how's about you check your call register periodically and see who you're calling, just in case you are dialling out accidentally. spent 4 years in the mobile phone industry and i've NEVER heard of cloning happening (and i believe that with digital security is nigh on impossible) so i really doubt that's your problem.

17-08-2003, 18:44	#10
Matt2002 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 192	The thing with some phones (nokia's do this, not sure about any other brands) is that even if the keypad is locked, you can still call 999 or 112. This has happened to me so many times! Even if you dial two 9's, then the third one an hour later, it still allows you to call 999! I wonder how many calls the emergency services get because of this ridiculous feature?

17-08-2003, 21:58	#12
fodavoneboy Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 26	if i remember correctly that's a legal thing so you can't get away from it... anyway, i'm sure dialling 999 or 112 won't leave you with huge phone bills

17-08-2003, 23:10	#13
*dan* Posts: n/a	ah but it uses battery life though! thats expensive

17-08-2003, 23:35	#14
tjclague Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Reading Posts: 370	yes it wud wast elecrticity . wot u cud do is as a contact as 'AA' and put the number to 00 or summat, and so if you go into ur fonebook thn it'll most probs call aa by acident, and it wont work. i do sumat lyk tht cos keylock dont always work tjc

19-08-2003, 09:38	#17
Jon B - Somerset Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 5,163	Yeah but with the 999 or 112 call feature it is stupid as it doesnt take long to unlock a phone.

19-08-2003, 11:29	#18
Craigywageybaby Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Darlington Posts: 3,211	Quote: anyway, i'm sure dialling 999 or 112 won't leave you with huge phone bills Its not the fact that it's expensive, you can get in trouble for hoax calling etc

19-08-2003, 11:33	#19
Jon B - Somerset Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 5,163	Yeah and when I did it by accident they didnt end the call until they had got my address and home number. I tried putting the phone down but they do something that doesn't let you put it down.

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