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Claire hasn't changed
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footygirl
18-06-2008
Oh Dear

Claire hasn't changed- judging by the commentas on Digital Spy

How could she be so graceless

Lee won because he was more consistent
Huffy1968
18-06-2008
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“Lee won because he was more consistent”

Totally agree - how many times was Lee in the boardroom compared to Claire? It's just sour grapes...
footygirl
18-06-2008
Hasn't done herself any favours- At least Kristina took her defeat with grace and dignity last year- and didn't bitch about it
Mazzarin
18-06-2008
The comment about Lee being happy to be a cleaner for Sir Alan shows her missing a key point about why he won.

He was willing to put in alot of effort on any task he was given which is not something that could be said about her.
apprentice_fan
18-06-2008
I also read somewhere that she said that if Lee had been as many times as she had been to the boadroom, he would have cracked under pressure.

I think what she said is absolute nonsense for two reasons: a- Lee put himself in this position by working very hard as a team player and a PM. b- Lee has been under pressure when he was faced with his CV situation and I think he handled the situation very well in the boadroom. He was also able to pick himself from a shambolic presentation in the tissue task and delivered a good presentation in the final task.
footygirl
18-06-2008
Think it is really childish of Claire. And very self opinionated with it.

Does she not realise that because she was TOO vocal that might have cost her
Hollygolightly
18-06-2008
So glad the gobby creature didn't win
Katenutzs
18-06-2008
Originally Posted by Mazzarin:
“The comment about Lee being happy to be a cleaner for Sir Alan shows her missing a key point about why he won.

He was willing to put in alot of effort on any task he was given which is not something that could be said about her.”

Shows she has learned very little from her experience on the 'Apprentice'.

Hard work, team playing are key elements to winning and Claire has not grasped that
footygirl
18-06-2008
And not shooting your mouth off when you don't get your way
apprentice_fan
18-06-2008
Perhaps the article exaggerates what Claire actually said.
jjackson42
18-06-2008
Originally Posted by apprentice_fan:
“Perhaps the article exaggerates what Claire actually said.”

I think that goes without saying! It IS Heat, after all!!
The-Apprentice
18-06-2008
Why should she have to change. She is who she is and those people who like her, like her because of who she is.
HollyC
18-06-2008
Originally Posted by Katenutzs:
“Shows she has learned very little from her experience on the 'Apprentice'.

Hard work, team playing are key elements to winning and Claire has not grasped that ”

Exactly!

That's why I am glad she didn't win, and in fact, don't think she should have made the final. She had already shown in the interview task that, despite how quiet she was in the boardroom, she still hadn't learned to keep her mouth shut and knuckle down!
ibeca
18-06-2008
I can't say I was ever convinced by her act.

I can't understand how she made the final. For all her talk, she wasn't much cop when it mattered. The weakest of the four finalists in my opinion. I don't know why people thought Helene was weaker

As for Karren Brady, what is she thinking? I wouldn't employ Claire if she was the last candidate breathing.
Lotus666
18-06-2008
Claire - as expected - gobby as ever! Definitely no change there then...
Sara Webb
18-06-2008
The media NEVER exaggerates what someone says or takes it out of context... especially not when running articles about the most popular series of a flagship show, which has just finished, in order to stir more interest in something there is a huge interest in already...

She was asked a question and she answered it. Where's the need for this pantomime villain treatment?
thenetworkbabe
19-06-2008
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“Oh Dear

Claire hasn't changed- judging by the commentas on Digital Spy

How could she be so graceless

Lee won because he was more consistent”

Lee won because he was lucky to be on teams that won - usually through sheer luck or because the other team was even worse. He was consistently mediocre and not very bright but he was a bloke who could sell big TVs to blokish blokes.

Claire lost because she was a strong loud female and SAS seems to be terrified of those .
apprentice_fan
19-06-2008
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Lee won because he was lucky to be on teams that won - usually through sheer luck or because the other team was even worse. He was consistently mediocre and not very bright but he was a bloke who could sell big TVs to blokish blokes.

Claire lost because she was a strong loud female and SAS seems to be terrified of those .”

No Lee won because he was an effective team player who always contributed to the task. Lee won 7 tasks:

1- Laundry: Lee and Alex brought in some sales (duvets) and he worked in the laundry for 8 hours.

2- Photography: Lee led the sales team. They selected the Celebrity look-alike which won them the task. He was the photographer and he was very friendly and dealt with the customers very well.

3- Greeting cards: He helped to design the cards. In the third pitch, his answer to the date question was crucial in getting the largest order and ultimately winning the task.

4- Marrakesh: He was the PM. He motivated his team, he planned very well, he splitted his team brilliantly, and he got the best performance from Lucinda and Sara - something many PM's including Claire failed to do.

5- Wedding dresses: He was an excellent salesman at his end of the job and he worked brilliantly with Lucinda in accessories selection.

6- Tissues: He came up with the brand which was the most successful element in the task.

7- Cars: Lee was the PM. He chose the right cars, the right locations, and he was the first to sell in the day. Lee's sales alone would have been enough to win the task.

He was a bloke who could sell big TVs to blokish blokes as you said but he sold thongs to women, ice cream to retailers, photos to families, and fish in the street. Of all the candidates, he was probably the best salesman.

He has a unique ability to motivate his team mates no matter how different they are. If you saw the interviews of the fired candidates and their pieces with the camera during the tasks: most of them said that they really enjoyed working with Lee: Sara, Raef, Simon, Claire, Jenny M, Jenny C, Ian, Alex, Lucinda, Lindi, Kevin, and Michael. How many of these really enjoyed working for or with Claire?

He was a very good planner. In both the tasks he won (Marrakesh and Cars), he made the right decisions, he delegated well and he planned the task very well starting from the first instance he took the task. Can we say this about the tasks Claire won (fish + ice cream)?

Lee was better than Claire in many ways. I really wanted Claire to win because I thought she adapted very well. If she said what has been quoted in this article, then the quality that I appreciated most in Claire was an act. She still doesn't know when to close her mouth and even worse - she doesn't know how to lose gracefully.
InigoMontoya
19-06-2008
Originally Posted by apprentice_fan:
“No Lee won because he was an effective team player who always contributed to the task....etc.”

Well said. (Save that I wouldn't be so harsh on Claire for the reason Sara Webb gives.)
apprentice_fan
19-06-2008
Originally Posted by Sara Webb:
“The media NEVER exaggerates what someone says or takes it out of context... especially not when running articles about the most popular series of a flagship show, which has just finished, in order to stir more interest in something there is a huge interest in already...

She was asked a question and she answered it. Where's the need for this pantomime villain treatment?”

I agree there is no need for a pantomime villain treatment. However, being asked a question is not an execuse. She could have said that Lee offers a different set of skills than what I offer and he fits SAS's job probably better. I think all the runner-ups said that in previous series and no one thought that they were less worthy winners.
DICKENS99
19-06-2008
Originally Posted by apprentice_fan:
“I agree there is no need for a pantomime villain treatment. However, being asked a question is not an execuse. She could have said that Lee offers a different set of skills than what I offer and he fits SAS's job probably better. I think all the runner-ups said that in previous series and no one thought that they were less worthy winners.”

This is the Clare who had previously made multiple applications to Big Brother, yes? That doesn't take away from her business skills but does indicate she isn't averse to publicity, and she must be aware that she only has a narrow window of opportunity to capitalise on media opportunities. Bland comments don't sell.
apprentice_fan
19-06-2008
Originally Posted by DICKENS99:
“This is the Clare who had previously made multiple applications to Big Brother, yes? That doesn't take away from her business skills but does indicate she isn't averse to publicity, and she must be aware that she only has a narrow window of opportunity to capitalise on media opportunities. Bland comments don't sell.”

Claire denied that she made multiple applications to BB. She said she only did once when she was 20 and withdrew her application when she was put through to the second round realising that it wasn't for her.

I think Saira and Ruth did rather well in the media by being gracious. Claire said before the finals that she has no intention to go into the media and that she wants to do very well in the business world.
soulmate61
19-06-2008
Originally Posted by Mazzarin:
“The comment about Lee being happy to be a cleaner for Sir Alan shows her missing a key point about why he won.
”

Scrubbers should not knock cleaners.

Mazzarin
19-06-2008
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“Scrubbers should not knock cleaners.

”


Ouch
ameredith
20-06-2008
I was glad Lee won and not her.
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