[JCR]

http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=..._of_doctor_who

It doesn't have any spoilers, but it does have:

"Episode 12 is ABSOLUTELY BLEEDIN' MENTAL and SUPER-DOOPER-FANWANKY. They'll have to power-hose the squee off the walls of the Outpost Gallifrey forums a week on Saturday."

[lordo350]

hmm yeah i can understand that, with the amount of stuff going on. Everyone's coming back so fans will love that bit. Sounds like a busy episode from that!

[Yoonix]

"Ming-Mong-kryptonite", "don't-give-a-toss audacity of it", and "there's a slim chance I'll think it's a big pile of tits once I've calmed down" - so typical RTD then?

[Muttley76]

Originally Posted by Yoonix

"Ming-Mong-kryptonite", "don't-give-a-toss audacity of it", and "there's a slim chance I'll think it's a big pile of tits once I've calmed down" - so typical RTD then?

oh I missed you when you were away...

I'm actually more optimistic about the finale as it draws closer from things I'm hearing about it, having been quite lukewarm about it all initially.

[Black Guardian]

Originally Posted by JCR

http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=..._of_doctor_who

It doesn't have any spoilers, but it does have:

"Episode 12 is ABSOLUTELY BLEEDIN' MENTAL and SUPER-DOOPER-FANWANKY. They'll have to power-hose the squee off the walls of the Outpost Gallifrey forums a week on Saturday."

so the kitchen sink is appearing...

[Muttley76]

Originally Posted by Black Guardian

so the kitchen sink is appearing...

and a very nice kitchen sink it is too...

[David2oo8]

Originally Posted by Black Guardian

so the kitchen sink is appearing...

How many times has that joke been said now............

Wasnt funny the first time and it gets worse every time someone says it.

Sorry but honestly sick of that so called joke.

[Black Guardian]

Originally Posted by Muttley76

and a very nice kitchen sink it is too...

we can only judge that when the episode has aired. the preview does concern me though when describing it as fanw*nk. I hope it isn't to the detriment of a storyline.

[Black Guardian]

Originally Posted by David2oo8

How many times has that joke been said now............

Wasnt funny the first time and it gets worse every time someone says it.

Sorry but honestly sick of that so called joke.

blame Russell for chucking the kitchen sink at us.

[crazzyaz7]

Originally Posted by David2oo8

How many times has that joke been said now............

Wasnt funny the first time and it gets worse every time someone says it.

Sorry but honestly sick of that so called joke.

Your telling me that the Kitchen Sink is a JOKE??????
And that it will not be appearing in the finale???


Seriously though I am very excited about the kitchen sink...I mean finale....I'm squeeing already...what am I gonna be like on the airing of the episodes....

[Black Guardian]

Originally Posted by Yoonix

"Ming-Mong-kryptonite", "don't-give-a-toss audacity of it", and "there's a slim chance I'll think it's a big pile of tits once I've calmed down" - so typical RTD then?

perhaps that's what this series reset is...

when AoG/Doomsday was described as fanw*nk by some who watched it people got very defensive but yet this finale is being pitched as such and people are already proclaiming it will be wonderful. I thought the term was supposed to be derogatory rather than a compliment?

[Check_it]

Originally Posted by David2oo8

How many times has that joke been said now............

Wasnt funny the first time and it gets worse every time someone says it.

Sorry but honestly sick of that so called joke.

I know, it has never been amusing, and is now just really boring and unimaginative.

The Stolen Earth sounds BRILLIANT though!

[Black Guardian]

Originally Posted by Check_it

I know, it has never been amusing, and is now just really boring and unimaginative.

The Stolen Earth sounds BRILLIANT though!

rather like the very unspoilerish title The Stolen Earth which to this day I still don't understand why it was kept so secret. we already knew planets were disappearing from the references earlier on in the series.

unlike some will wait to see the actual episode before proclaiming it brilliant.

[RebelScum]

Without taking away anything from the potential quality of the episode, it is worth remembering the SFX lot are hardly known for their objectivity.

[stcoop]

Originally Posted by RebelScum

Without taking away anything from the potential quality of the episode, it is worth remembering the SFX lot are hardly known for their objectivity.

That's certainly not true, as a look at their reviews for previous episodes easily shows.

[RebelScum]

Originally Posted by stcoop

That's certainly not true, as a look at their reviews for previous episodes easily shows.

I do read them. I've been reading SFX since issue #1.

SFX have a bad reputation for a lack of profesional objectivity and a tendency to hype up shows/movies they have good relations with. At its peak (the Joss Whedon/Buffy days) it was unbearable. So much so that loads of people complained so they did tone it down, but it's still there. It's not unusual for SFX to hype up an episode/movie one day but then in order to give the illusion of objectivity to slag of the very same episode/movie several months later, once the need for hype is redundant.

[stcoop]

Originally Posted by RebelScum

It's not unusual for SFX to hype up an episode/movie one day but then in order to give the illusion of objectivity to slag of the very same episode/movie several months later, once the need for hype is redundant.

Of course, of course, whatever you say.

NURSE!

[huggzy]

"And bring in that wotsit from that throwaway line in episode X."

Awesome, i love that kind of thing, its all :O thats right! i remember that! and stuff

Personally i want a definate answer to all the questions we've asked i.e. what did the ood mean? did they mean river song must end or the doctordonna song or what?!

and the bees! and all the insane theories and junk, i like closure lol

[RebelScum]

Originally Posted by stcoop

Of course, of course, whatever you say.

NURSE!

Now, now. No need for that.

[TMLS313]

Originally Posted by RebelScum

I do read them. I've been reading SFX since issue #1.

SFX have a bad reputation for a lack of profesional objectivity and a tendency to hype up shows/movies they have good relations with. At its peak (the Joss Whedon/Buffy days) it was unbearable. So much so that loads of people complained so they did tone it down, but it's still there. It's not unusual for SFX to hype up an episode/movie one day but then in order to give the illusion of objectivity to slag of the very same episode/movie several months later, once the need for hype is redundant.

Yes, but without SFX we wouldn't have the THE Colin Baker Cult - surely that's enough to forgive everything, to have THE Colin in our lives...

[timelord2008]

Originally Posted by stcoop

Of course, of course, whatever you say.

NURSE!

SFX used to slag off Who all the time until 2005 time when it returned to our screens.

They are carpet baggers.

[Check_it]

Originally Posted by Black Guardian

unlike some will wait to see the actual episode before proclaiming it brilliant.

No, the guy from SFX has seen it, he's seen a preview DVD.

[trollface]

Originally Posted by RebelScum

SFX have a bad reputation for a lack of profesional objectivity and a tendency to hype up shows/movies they have good relations with.

A bad reputation with who? It's the best selling sci-fi mag in the country and wins awards.

When you say it has a bad reputation are you talking about what you and your mates think, perchance?

At its peak (the Joss Whedon/Buffy days) it was unbearable.

You mean that they used to give good reviews to a ground-breaking and extremely popular programme that garnered positive reviews from every other source too? Obviously signs of sycophantic bias rather than the programme deserving good reviews.

It's not unusual for SFX to hype up an episode/movie one day but then in order to give the illusion of objectivity to slag of the very same episode/movie several months later, once the need for hype is redundant.

Really? I can't think of one instance of this happening.

Or are you maybe talking about the way that different people will review different things and give them different ratings? You know, the way that happens when there are objective reviews.

All hail THE Colin Baker.

[Darth-Habib]

Slightly off topic but is J Michael Stransiskyi still pissed at SFX?

[RebelScum]

A bad reputation with who?

With many people who feel the same way of course, or are you perhaps saying I am alone in this opinion? Over the years SFX readers themselves have written in to the mag to express such opinions and many of these letters have been printed.

As I said earlier, it has been toned down and it's nowhere near as bad as it was years ago.

It's the best selling sci-fi mag in the country and wins awards.

I never questioned it's mass popularity, but rather it's professional objectivity. Now you'd think the two would go and in hand, wouldnt ya? Strange.

When you say it has a bad reputation are you talking about what you and your mates think, perchance?

No at all. This reputation came from a lot of pis*ed off long time readers of the mag.

You mean that they used to give good reviews to a ground-breaking and extremely popular programme that garnered positive reviews from every other source too? Obviously signs of sycophantic bias rather than the programme deserving good reviews.

There's a big difference between praising an excellent programme such as Buffy and kissing the show makers ass at every opportunity in a desperate attempt to become part the show's in-crowd.

Really? I can't think of one instance of this happening.

You can't?!

Or are you maybe talking about the way that different people will review different things and give them different ratings? You know, the way that happens when there are objective reviews.

Ah yes, that old tired get out of jail card.