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100 Hz - is it worth it?
brum_rich
29-06-2008
Was just about to take the plunge and buy a 1080p TV (40" LCD) and now am having doubts as I've heard that I should go for a 100 Hz model which put the price up a bit. Is it worth paying the extra for 100Hz?

I was originally going for a Sony, either W3000 or W4000. To get a 100Hz model in this range I would be looking at the X3500 I believe which is a few hundred quid more.

Any thoughts?
Nigel Goodwin
29-06-2008
Originally Posted by brum_rich:
“Was just about to take the plunge and buy a 1080p TV (40" LCD) and now am having doubts as I've heard that I should go for a 100 Hz model which put the price up a bit. Is it worth paying the extra for 100Hz?

I was originally going for a Sony, either W3000 or W4000. To get a 100Hz model in this range I would be looking at the X3500 I believe which is a few hundred quid more.”

Go and ask to see them both, personally I've never found 100Hz to be worthwhile.
GHeather
29-06-2008
Not sure about what you can expect from an LCD TV, but my Panasonic CRT has it and I turned it off as you could see tearing when it was displaying fast motion NTSC.

This may or may not be a consideration for you.
roddydogs
30-06-2008
According to "Richer Sounds" it "reduces flicker and gives a smoother picture!
Nigel Goodwin
30-06-2008
Originally Posted by roddydogs:
“According to "Richer Sounds" it "reduces flicker and gives a smoother picture!”

Would you listen to a salesman who's going to make more commission selling you a more expensive TV?
reddog1234
30-06-2008
Originally Posted by roddydogs:
“According to "Richer Sounds" it "reduces flicker and gives a smoother picture!”

Blimey sounds like he should be working in Dixon's... very unlike "Richer Sounds" staff to lie in their shop near me.
r_mitchell85
30-06-2008
if you take a photo, or a video clip of your TV - you wont see the black lines going down it???????

thats what I thought anyway.
roddydogs
01-07-2008
Originally Posted by reddog1234:
“Blimey sounds like he should be working in Dixon's... very unlike "Richer Sounds" staff to lie in their shop near me.”

Its actually on their website in writing!!
richie wild
01-07-2008
Originally Posted by roddydogs:
“According to "Richer Sounds" it "reduces flicker and gives a smoother picture!”

i've always found it just makes the picture soft, so why not buy a normal set and turn down the sharpness?

i agree with Nigel.
Nigel Goodwin
01-07-2008
Originally Posted by r_mitchell85:
“if you take a photo, or a video clip of your TV - you wont see the black lines going down it???????”

You don't on any LCD or Plasma, as the image isn't scanned like a CRT.

If you take a photo of a 100Hz CRT you get bars just the same.
Andy2
01-07-2008
100 Hz scanning is useful on CRT displays, because it gets rid of the 50Hz flicker. But LCD's don't flicker anyway, because the picture is displayed continuously, not scanned. And 100Hz involves extra processing which can cause problems with motion.
brum_rich
05-07-2008
Thanks for your input - seems that 50Hz is the way to go.
late8
05-07-2008
my new Panasonic plasma is 100hz- to be honest i cant see a drastic improvement in motion. instead of LCD smear you get plasma judder still and light areas still flicker

two words - latest gimmick
Waj_100
05-07-2008
100HZ on my Pioneer Kuro is very useful for motion handling.

On the Pioneer you have the choice of three "drive modes"

You can have, 50HZ, 60HZ, 75HZ, 72HZ, and 100HZ, depending on what your pure cinema setting is, which depends on the source, eg, Blu-Ray, HD DVD, Sky HD, SD DVD, etc.

I use Drive mode 2 for Sky HD, with pure cinema off, this gives 100HZ output which as I said, is great for motion, especially for sports.
Ghostleader
05-07-2008
I have a 100Hz set, it is slightly smoother, but has Ghost lines on fast moving edges!! This only seems to effect SD stuff though, so video scaler & 100Hz dont make for a happy couple!
Mandarintje
16-07-2008
I'm extremely sensitive to the lower frequency lights etc... so when it comes to old style CRT TV's, yes 100Hz was absolutely necessary. Also for the last 12 years I've had only LCD monitors on the PC for the same reason.

LCD screens do not need to be 100Hz though. The reason being, on a CRT the picture is projected and so needs to be projected faster in order to reduce the flicker (or rather reduce the time between the flicker)

LCD screens are already there...nothing's projected. The image does not flash, it simply changes X number of times per minute.

I can walk into a TV shop and point out which CRT's are less than 100Hz and which are 100Hz. To my brain, anything less flashes horribly and causes a slight epileptic effect!

So, I can tell you that 100Hz on an LCD TV is superfluous. Do get one that can handle 24P though for Blu Ray
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