[homer911]

i'm looking to buy a new mobile phone in the next few weeks and i'm looking for recomendations. the basic requirments i have give or take are.......

java
colour screen
wap
polyphonic ringtones
Picture Messaging

clam shell - optional although i would prefer it
camera - optional

funds are tight at the moment (student) so i'm looking for a price of around £150 on pay as you go or unconnected (i know its not much).

i was looking at the motorola t720i but ive been hearing bad things about it. can anybody give me some recomendation and point me in the right direction for the best prices.

[Tristan_B]

First things first, don't go for the T720i. It's crap.

My obvious recommendation would be the SonyEricsson T610. It has all the features you want (including a camera), although it's not a clamshell. You can't really miss the huge thread about it, so take a read if you're interested. It lists lots of places where you can get the phone cheaply.

Other recommendations would be the Sharp GX10 (Vodafone only), and the Samsung V200, both clamshell phones with cameras. Nokia also do a range of phones with all the features you want, although they're not clamshell and only the 3650 and 7250 have built-in cameras.

Your best bet is to pop into Carphone Warehouse or something and pick up a brochure with all the latest phones in it -- it will give you some ideas, then you can look online to see better prices!

[Luke567]

The sagem my x6 has it all, apart from, the java.

The T610 has it all, but its java engine is one of the slowest around. This is the same for the T720i

I would recommend a Sharp GX10(i). But this is an expensive phone.

For your price range, you are not going to get much.

I stronly recommend the Sagem however, its a solid phone, with an excellent screen and impressive camera. Its build quality is excellent. Look at it at your local shop. Then, u can find it for £99 on the internet on pay as you(absolute bargin).
It even offers the ability to have real sounds as ring tones, and includes a recording facility so u dont have to fiddle about with your PC. Also has IRDA connection. The camera is the best of anyphone.

[sympathy]

I'd recommend the sagem my6 too. It really is a brilliant phone-the picture quality is excellent and store your photos in either high resolution format which comes out to be about 6 by 4 inches on a comp screen or mobile format which is just big enough to fit on a mobile screen. The quality is better than when I use an ordinary camera...

The recording facility is really handy-you can record your own ringtones (30 seconds worth of music at a time) and it sounds much better than having a polyphonic ringtone. It has a ton of memory as well so you can save as many as you want, that goes for photos too.

Anyway, Orange have a deal right now where you can get the my-6 for £99.99 and you get the text saver package as well which includes 5 free texts a day for a year. It's definitely worth checking out. http://shop.orange.co.uk/NASApp/esales/esales

[MDX]

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Originally posted by Luke567
The T610 has it all, but its java engine is one of the slowest around.

not if you upgrade the firmware

then its not so slow

[tjclague]

yeh i too wud agree with havin a myx-6. if u wanted java becos u can download games, the my x-6 has an in-fusio games engine wich is more advanced (but u can only download thm if u r on orage). i hav just download crach bandicoot . and the fact tht its £60 quid cheaper thn the sony helps. the camera is the best on the market methinks, and so do a lot of otha ppl. i wud recomend the sagem, but its up 2 u. o and it also has interchangable fascias.
tjc
p.p. chek out www.mysagem.co.uk so u can hear te quality of the ringtones, and if u get 1 u can get em free from there

[pgomes]

Hi All,

I have a SE P800, and the HCH-30 BT Car Kit. Am I wrong, or the P800 does not support handsfree profile or Car Profile for this kit? This way I cannot take full advantage of the Magic Word feature on the P800, wich is great for people like me that drive a lot.

Greetz,

P

[Luke567]

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Originally posted by tjclague
yeh i too wud agree with havin a myx-6. if u wanted java becos u can download games, the my x-6 has an in-fusio games engine wich is more advanced (but u can only download thm if u r on orage). i hav just download crach bandicoot . and the fact tht its £60 quid cheaper thn the sony helps. the camera is the best on the market methinks, and so do a lot of otha ppl. i wud recomend the sagem, but its up 2 u. o and it also has interchangable fascias.
tjc
p.p. chek out www.mysagem.co.uk so u can hear te quality of the ringtones, and if u get 1 u can get em free from there

I have crash bandicoot on my 3510i

Its great, plus its in french, which made it better cos i was finding out all the special move type things... it really is a great game. I am honestly looking forward to gameloft releasing 'xiii'

Yes, as you said. 'In-Fusio' is a much more powerful engine than Java. Hopefully, with the increased popularity of the sagem phone, developers will take it more seriously and produce more games and applications with it...

But, the sagem truely is a great phone, even when i saw the dummy, u can feel the strngth and stability, which is somthing nokias lack.

[Luke567]

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Originally posted by PreZiCion
not if you upgrade the firmware

then its not so slow

Wanna bet? Results

I think the latest test result(the first is running the new firmware)... and yes... it is still very slow ....

If u goto the main page with the phone list, it seems a new motorola is toppling the pile.. that looks a nice phone if it is a phone(well its a PDA)

[ianforest]

Sorry to tag on at the end here, I can't start a new thread yet...

Anyone have any views on the Nokia 6800?

[MDX]

Quote:

Originally posted by Luke567
Wanna bet? Results

I think the latest test result(the first is running the new firmware)... and yes... it is still very slow ....

If u goto the main page with the phone list, it seems a new motorola is toppling the pile.. that looks a nice phone if it is a phone(well its a PDA)

so thats with the new firmware R1L not R1A

R1A sucks ass now upto the new things on R1L
there are major factors between all the new firmwares and this improves so much.

it dosnt say if its the new or old firmware on that site does it ??
also have you ever played with a T610 ?? with the new firmware you self ?? untill you have dont tell people what you have read its what you know e.g having the phone to play with.

[MDX]

Quote:

Originally posted by tjclague
yeh i too wud agree with havin a myx-6. if u wanted java becos u can download games, the my x-6 has an in-fusio games engine wich is more advanced (but u can only download thm if u r on orage). i hav just download crach bandicoot . and the fact tht its £60 quid cheaper thn the sony helps. the camera is the best on the market methinks, and so do a lot of otha ppl. i wud recomend the sagem, but its up 2 u. o and it also has interchangable fascias.
tjc
p.p. chek out www.mysagem.co.uk so u can hear te quality of the ringtones, and if u get 1 u can get em free from there

i herd that in-fusio was dead and they had stoped making games for it ??

[bipul]

I am thinking of getting a motorola c350. i was wondering if anyone here has one and if they could just post their opinions on it. has anyone suffered from a battery problem where the battery just dies after a very short period?

thanks in advance
bipul.

[tjclague]

yeh so did i but they just made cras bndiccot, and they dnt say nethin about stopping on their site..
tjc

[MDX]

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Originally posted by tjclague
yeh so did i but they just made cras bndiccot, and they dnt say nethin about stopping on their site..
tjc

seems like a bit of good news for the myx-6 then

[Tristan_B]

Sagem have their custom game development system, but then so do SE: Mophun is a far better platform than Java. Plus, as I understand it, you can only download 'appoved' applications on the Sagem. With the T610, you can put Java and Mophun games onto it in any way you choose (over the air, or via cable, IrDA or Bluetooth from a PC).

And while we're on the subject of Bluetooth, once you get it all sorted, it's great. You can get USB dongles for less than £20 now, so it's by far the easiest way of getting your computer talking to your phone.

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The P800 does support both the Headset and Handsfree profiles -- or at least I'm 99% sure it does, as both the T68i and T610 do, and there'd be no reason for SE to drop it...

[pgomes]

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Originally posted by Tristan_B


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The P800 does support both the Headset and Handsfree profiles -- or at least I'm 99% sure it does, as both the T68i and T610 do, and there'd be no reason for SE to drop it... [/b]

Hi T,

The P800 does support both profiles, but it does not recognise the HCH-30 as a Car Kit but as a Headset. Therefor, it does no recognise the Magic Word to activate voice dialing ,has I would do with a "wired" headset (Freehands profile) or in a "wired" Car kit (Car profile). I know from SE that this feature is not available on the BT Headsets in order to improve the standby time of the Headset. The Magic word feature needs a continuous monitor over what is said, wich would take a lot of power from the BT Headset, but a BT carkit does not have this problem, as it's continuously conected to the car power. I think that the Se overlooked this possibility, and I am looking to know if someone has/knows a fix for this.

Tx,

P

[Luke567]

Quote:

Originally posted by Tristan_B
Sagem have their custom game development system, but then so do SE: Mophun is a far better platform than Java. Plus, as I understand it, you can only download 'appoved' applications on the Sagem. With the T610, you can put Java and Mophun games onto it in any way you choose (over the air, or via cable, IrDA or Bluetooth from a PC).

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Also as i understand it, so do morphun games, they need some form of varification.

Anyway... in a report it was said that In-Fusio is more powerful than the two, just nokia who have the market lead only put Java on thier phones, thus making it an far more practical solution to producing Java games. The same goes for Morphun games, not as many people are producing these than there are Java, but with the increase popularity of SE phones and thier growing market share - production of morphun games/apps is becoming larger.

However, with the inniment release of MIDP 2.0, time will only tell if this updated language will become standard in all phones.

Also about the 'approved' applications...

When the SPV first started, people started developing for the phone. However, to have your game certified it cost £100's of pounds, you had to really think wether this was a viable option and if your game would take in a large ammount of money.
With the increasing popularity of this phone, and the increasing demand for applications. People began on a workaround to certification. A small procedure could be done to the phones so you could recieve any application -certified or uncertified.

Later, orange decided to make this a 'legal' option and offer to 'update' peoples phones sop certification is not the needed.

With the increasing populartity of the Sagem phones, and with the (hopeful!) revival of the In-Fusio engine, Sagem(or the devs of In-Fusio) will realise that they will lose nothing by 'removeing' the need for certification.

Or, once again, with the improved popularity of the Sagem phones, the owners themselfs will produce a workaround, like they did with the SPV.

Only time will tell.

Ok. PreZiCion - Download the Jbenchmark .jad and .jar then run the text on your phone. Upload it to the JBenchmark site using the upload function on the application. We will then see if the new firmware really is much better

[tjclague]

i've just been on in-fusios site www.in-fusio.com and it shows a new spyro the dragon game preview, so tht shud b cool. dus ne1 no if there r any apps 4 my sagem fone in in-fusio? and if so, where can i get them?i thought in-fusio was limited to games at this point...
tjc

[tjclague]

i've jus been thinking tho, with the new sagem fone (possible myx-6i?) having java, it could be that sagem hav given up on in-fusio, or that they are just doing the same thing as se did with morphun..
tjc

[tjclague]

rite i think i no wot in-fusio is, having luked at their site. in-fusio is not only a games engine. it has a part of it called ExEn (execution engine) wich is devoted to making games. so i think we can assume tht in-fusio shud b making applications, but i cant find it newhere on ther site. so its all a bit confusing, and no1 nos really if in-fusion are dead, dying or alive. ill try 2 find out more, but if ne1 noes nething else, thn plez tell.
tjc

[tjclague]

rite now im utterly , so ignore me if im talkin bs. apparently exen runs j2me as well, so now im even more confused. exen is actually the software that lets you download games and things like that. go to www.in-fusio.com and also clik on developers to find out more. soz.
tjc

[LTT]

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hav just download crach bandicoot

Where's everyone got crash from?! I saw it on the in-fusio site months ago and asked Orange would they be offering it and they said they had no plans to do so. I went onto their site there and it's still not available for download. Mayeb because I have the MyG-5? but then again I don't think it would be a major hassle for Orange to make it available for this phone if they've done it for the myx6?

[AndyM]

If you want to play games why not get a Gameboy SP?

[Luke567]

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Originally posted by AndyM
If you want to play games why not get a Gameboy SP?

Games for phone = Free(well, fi you look in the right places) - and yes, there are some very good games.

Games for GameGirl's = Alot of money, not very good.

tjclague -

Java applications... Backbone = J2ME 'Frontface' = MIDP 1.0(and soon MIDP 2.0)

In-fusio... Backbone = In-Fusio 'Frontface' = Exen

Erll.. if u get the idea...