Seriously! What was all that bollocks about 'Everlasting Death for the most faithful Companion' rubbish.

'One shall die!' he kept blithering nonsensically.

Even as flames lick around the base of his Wheely bin, and as the Doctor's making a getaway... he's still trying to spin out his deluded fantasy...
'One of your companions will still die, you know!'

Who died? Nobody.

Buggared off to different dimensions, had thier memories wiped, and condemned themselves to 5 episodes of Captain Jazz Hands appauling **coff** acting - but all alive & well at 'Journeys End'!

Dalek Caan speak utter, utter tripe. Yyvette Fielding is probably desperately trying to track down his agent, as I type.

RUBBISH.

haha excellent.

Kaan loves Dick

Well, I thought Donna 'died' and in an everlasting way n all.

Well Donnas memory of the Doctor died.

perhaps Caan didn't have a spirit guide like Derek Accorah..

Really? I thought I saw her ringing up Nerris for a good ol' chin-wag.

DoctorDonna died.

Maybe its still yet to happen

Bravo! Well explained.

I was just thinking that! After all, Caan has seen all of time!

No. DoctorDonna had her memory wiped, and was the deposited safe & sound back to her familiy, in perfect health.

Not exactly.. she is hidden.. if she gets another spark, she would probably get her memory back...

Derek Acorah was in 'Who' way before Caan appeared (well about 30 minutes really)

Don't knock him

But she isn't Doctor Donna, she is Donna, the old Donna who never met the Doctor. Therefore DoctorDonna is dead...as predicted by both Caan and The Ood (DoctorDonna...your song will end soon).

But she may have had her memories wiped but he can't have got rid of her Time Lord brain, it's still there...right? An essence of it somewhere, that's why they can't mention it to her. So maybe she can return?

Great thread title.

I like to think Caan escaped the Medusa Cascade and is now on a tour giving "psychic" readings to gullible megalomaniac inventors...

"Captain Jazz Hands"; excellent!

I lost all interest in MH years ago, but that has made my night. 'Mary loves Dick' - legendary!!

Why don't you watch the show again and figure it out.

I've said this in another thread, but I'll say it again.

Rose Tyler was on the list of fatalities from the Battle of Canary Wharf, though she was secretly hiding out in the alternate universe.

From the perspective of the original universe, Rose Tyler was dead. She has since returned to this universe over the course of this last year - but has now been returned to where she was before. Her 'state of death' has returned - and by claiming it's an everlasting death, RTD through Caan, clearly intends her never to return.

"One will still die" was a seperate prophecy, worded completely differently to the most faithful companion will recieve everlasting death one.

Despite the two doctors escaping - one will still die. IE, while our doctor will continue to live on, the other one will die.

Agree with every word

I'm getting sick of all these red herrings they give us - they think it's really clever, and I suppose it was the first time ,when Rose was predicted to "die in battle", which turned out to be her name being listed amoungst the dead in 'her' universe...but it's just a disapointment when they're building up to something bigger than what is actually coming.

I felt let down by tonight's episode, and in all honesty it would have been better if they'd killed someone off. Donna's unlikely to return now anyway, they should have had her sacrifice herself for the Doctor or something. It would have given us a better finale, instead we just had so many characters their screentime was spread too thinly, and the closest we got to a moving scene was the Doctor telling Donna's family they couldn't mention him to Donna, and that stupid scene on the beach which was just a replica of Doomsday.

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Reading the responses to Donna's memory erasure makes me understand why they don't kill off the leads. People are mentioning tears, anger at how "unfair" it was, etc. A real death would cause meltdown and probably questions in Parliament.

Very worrying isn't it. The situations RTD gets himself into without the bottle to kill people is really rather tiresome for a writer of his so called pedigree.

He really doesn't have the balls to do drama, but instead forced, fake, superficial emotion.

The kids would enjoy a bit of death RTD, it's the teenagers on here who struggle with the concept.

caan forsaw his own death - he was a faithful companion - since when did he say that it had to be one of the dr's compainions???

I Think The Ending Was A Load Of Crap The Series Was Building Up Fantasticlly Then Suddenly Donna Get Half Time Lord Powers Which Is A Load Of Rubbish Because Doctor Is The Full Time Lord Y Couldent He Do Kill The Darleks And Devros Where R The Judoon Wats The Darkness I Hope The Darleks Come Back And Kill Doctor And Evreyone Else