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Did you find it easier to let go of *this* Rose because of the changed face & voice?
cathrin
06-07-2008
I did. I always loved Rose, and I sobbed buckets during the original Bad Wolf Bay/Doomsday scene; my heart broke for her then as well as for the Doctor. I did get quite emotional in Journey's End too, but this time it was all about the Doctor's sadness, not Rose's. Rose looked and sounded so weird, it was hard to connect her with the person I'd been so sad to lose first time around. It was as much her face as her voice. In that scene in the Tardis when she said "So I could come back," and then "Shut up!" she just looked so odd and almost creepy....I just didn't feel like it was her! That made it easier to let go of her this time, but at the same time it was a bit sad; I would have preferred to remember her as she was.

I guess it's like when you break up with someone, and you keep a rosy memory of them in your head. If you meet up years later and they're no longer as likable as they used to be, on the plus side, it's easier to get closure! But on the minus side, the rosy memory is spoilt!
Sh'boobie
06-07-2008
I was sad when she left, however it was RTD, not I, that had trouble 'letting her go'.

By about mid-way through Martha's season, I was well & truely tired of the constant spectre of Rose Almighty hanging over our heads & just wished he let it f**kin' die already.

When I heard that Season Four was definately going to be 'all about Donna', I was delighted - but then BLAM in episode one, its that freakin Piper woman again - overshadowing everything that happened thereafter.

The fandom lost interest in what would happen next to Donna, and became more obsessed by when we'd next see a glimpse of bloody Rose.

I for one am DELIGHTED we'll no longer have to worry about seeing her goofy, needy gob ever again.
lakes
06-07-2008
do we know what she had had done to her face?
Aesa
06-07-2008
No. I found it easier to let go of *this* Rose because of her new attitude. When Martha and Sarah Jane/Jack/ Mickey/Jackie were all making threats to destroy the earth/destroy the crucible and she was loving it, it wasn't the Rose from her adventures with the Doctor. I know people change, and she would have done, but the amount she changed and what to wasn't pleasant, I don't think. I reckon this might be partly why the Doctor left her in the PU with the HumanDoctor - he didn't like what she'd become.
Sh'boobie
06-07-2008
Originally Posted by lakes:
“do we know what she had had done to her face?”

She lost weight, that's all. She always had an overbite, it was just way more pronounced with less cheeks to detract from it.
alibee
06-07-2008
I agree that Rose was very different but I watched DW confidential last night and saw how much DT has also changed since the end of series 2. His face is also much thinner and almost sculpted
lakes
06-07-2008
Originally Posted by Sh'boobie:
“She lost weight, that's all. She always had an overbite, it was just way more pronounced with less cheeks to detract from it.”

so that make her top lip not move and make her sound funny?
cathrin
06-07-2008
Originally Posted by Aesa:
“No. I found it easier to let go of *this* Rose because of her new attitude. When Martha and Sarah Jane/Jack/ Mickey/Jackie were all making threats to destroy the earth/destroy the crucible and she was loving it, it wasn't the Rose from her adventures with the Doctor. I know people change, and she would have done, but the amount she changed and what to wasn't pleasant, I don't think. I reckon this might be partly why the Doctor left her in the PU with the HumanDoctor - he didn't like what she'd become.”

Yes, I agree with all of that. Her changed appearance seemed to coincide with a much more fundamental change, and not for the better. I wish it had been made more obvious that Real Doctor found New Rose a bit offputting. Then there would have been a more satisfying message at the end, that she and BlueDoctor kind of deserved each other!
Rich23434565
06-07-2008
Originally Posted by Sh'boobie:
“ I was sad when she left, however it was RTD, not I, that had trouble 'letting her go'.

By about mid-way through Martha's season, I was well & truely tired of the constant spectre of Rose Almighty hanging over our heads & just wished he let it f**kin' die already.

When I heard that Season Four was definately going to be 'all about Donna', I was delighted - but then BLAM in episode one, its that freakin Piper woman again - overshadowing everything that happened thereafter.

The fandom lost interest in what would happen next to Donna, and became more obsessed by when we'd next see a glimpse of bloody Rose.

I for one am DELIGHTED we'll no longer have to worry about seeing her goofy, needy gob ever again.”

Yes, I 100% agree with all of this!! Every single word is spot on!

I got SICK of seeing Rose's face popping up in every other episode. I just hope she's now gone for good. :yawn:
Aesa
06-07-2008
Originally Posted by cathrin:
“Yes, I agree with all of that. Her changed appearance seemed to coincide with a much more fundamental change, and not for the better. I wish it had been made more obvious that Real Doctor found New Rose a bit offputting. Then there would have been a more satisfying message at the end, that she and BlueDoctor kind of deserved each other! ”

I thought the Doctor's expression when she was laughing about it all was very telling - he was looking at her as if she was someone he'd only just met and did not particularly like. I don't think he completely fell out of his feelings for her, he just didn't like new Rose. His behaviour with her changed from the beginning of the episode to the end.
Indie Jones
06-07-2008
The question is will we feel the same about Donna if she returns??? With CT have had that mole removed off her chin, and we will be like OMG she is totally diffent i hate her now
timey
06-07-2008
Originally Posted by Sh'boobie:
“I was sad when she left, however it was RTD, not I, that had trouble 'letting her go'.

By about mid-way through Martha's season, I was well & truely tired of the constant spectre of Rose Almighty hanging over our heads & just wished he let it f**kin' die already.

When I heard that Season Four was definately going to be 'all about Donna', I was delighted - but then BLAM in episode one, its that freakin Piper woman again - overshadowing everything that happened thereafter.

The fandom lost interest in what would happen next to Donna, and became more obsessed by when we'd next see a glimpse of bloody Rose.

I for one am DELIGHTED we'll no longer have to worry about seeing her goofy, needy gob ever again.”

But it was a realistic storyline though. Because of the way they were forcibly separated it would be natural to feel that you hadn't had closure, as the OP says. I don't think the references to Rose were that intrusive, and the way he has handled their eventual meeting and final separation was quite well done IMO.
::Adam::
06-07-2008
Nope, i didn't, i always loved Rose in DW <3
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