with lawrence now suspended, davis already suspended, butterfield injured, mccarthy still possibly injured, we're not going to have a defence on saturday.
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Originally Posted by -Bandit-:
“with lawrence now suspended, davis already suspended, butterfield injured, mccarthy still possibly injured, we're not going to have a defence on saturday.”
“with lawrence now suspended, davis already suspended, butterfield injured, mccarthy still possibly injured, we're not going to have a defence on saturday.”
Clyne is still doubtful, too.
Its now Ipswich 0-2 Plymouth. That would put Plymouth hot on our heels.
That's that, then. Another game gone, another defeat, another match where we fail to score. Only 8 left games to save ourselves.
if wednesday beat watford tomorrow night i reckon that will be it. i can't see us winning more than 2 games in those final 8 fixtures. i doubt we'll get to 47 points let alone 50.
Full-Times:
Forest 2-0 Palace
Ipswich 0-2 Plymouth
Scunthorpe 4-0 Peterborough
We're so very, very screwed.
Forest 2-0 Palace
Ipswich 0-2 Plymouth
Scunthorpe 4-0 Peterborough
We're so very, very screwed.
i think its safe to say we now need a minor miracle to stay up. because of injuries and suspensions we now have no defence and we have no striker capable of scoring any goals.
Hart's record so far.
P:6 W:1 D:2 L:3 F:2 A:5
We've now picked up just 11 points from our last 12 league games. That's abysmal.
P:6 W:1 D:2 L:3 F:2 A:5
We've now picked up just 11 points from our last 12 league games. That's abysmal.
been a fair while since i've felt this low following Palace
and that's saying something. the squad is depleted through
injury & suspensions and morale must have hit rock bottom.
add to that how we keep commiting footballing suicide during
games that we can't afford to lose and it all adds up to relegation.
other teams around us keep picking up wins and scoring goals,
something we are unable to do. these are desperate times but
to put another slant on it, relegation is acceptable as long as we
still have a club to support next season and beyond. at least that
is what i keep telling myself.
and that's saying something. the squad is depleted through
injury & suspensions and morale must have hit rock bottom.
add to that how we keep commiting footballing suicide during
games that we can't afford to lose and it all adds up to relegation.
other teams around us keep picking up wins and scoring goals,
something we are unable to do. these are desperate times but
to put another slant on it, relegation is acceptable as long as we
still have a club to support next season and beyond. at least that
is what i keep telling myself.
It's never over, 'til it's over.
We need to hope there's a Freedman style hero among the squad. And we as fans, need to go into each game thinking positive.
It should also be remembered it isn't Hart who's put us in this position. He (and Pembo and Dougie) may not be able to get us out, but it isn't their fault we're here.
Agree with this. As long as we find a new owner, the league we're playing in won't really matter too much.
We need to hope there's a Freedman style hero among the squad. And we as fans, need to go into each game thinking positive.
It should also be remembered it isn't Hart who's put us in this position. He (and Pembo and Dougie) may not be able to get us out, but it isn't their fault we're here.
Originally Posted by Tusk0312:
“to put another slant on it, relegation is acceptable as long as we
still have a club to support next season and beyond. at least that
is what i keep telling myself.”
“to put another slant on it, relegation is acceptable as long as we
still have a club to support next season and beyond. at least that
is what i keep telling myself.”
Agree with this. As long as we find a new owner, the league we're playing in won't really matter too much.
you make good points joooe. but when you think we had the same squad who were getting results before the points deduction and even pushing for a play-off place. since the deduction we have virtually gone into freefall. its like the belief or fight or whatever has gone from them and that makes it more and more difficult by the game to feel positive. but you're right, its not over til its over.
we need to beat cardiff on saturday. simple as that.
we need to beat cardiff on saturday. simple as that.
I'm still trying to convince myself we'll be alright but TBH I'm more worried now about finding a new owner, someone who is capable of investing in the club as well as clearing its debts. Staying up would be a bonus.
Some injury news...
Some injury news...
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“Palace full back Nathaniel Clyne is to have a scan tomorrow to assess whether he can play any more part in the Eagles season.
The Football League's Young Player of the Year limped out of the match against Leicester last week with a groin strain, missing the draw at Blackpool and last night's defeat to Nottingham Forest.
Clyne is major doubt for Saturday's encounter with Cardiff and concerns are growing that the injury will sideline him for the remainder of the campaign.
"Nathaniel is having a scan tomorrow and we will know more then," confirmed manager Paul Hart.
Clyne's injury is the last thing Palace need.
Danny Butterfield limped out of the match at the City Ground with a hamstring strain, Nick Carle was ruled out with a calf strain and Matt Lawrence is now suspended for two matches following his red card for deliberate handball.
One ray of light for Hart is that scans have confirmed that defender Paddy McCarthy is only suffering with scar tissue following his latest setback after shoulder surgery.
"The results of Paddy's scan have proved it is just scar tissue that is troubling him, so we will monitor him over the next few days and hopefully he will be back sooner rather than later," added Hart.”
“Palace full back Nathaniel Clyne is to have a scan tomorrow to assess whether he can play any more part in the Eagles season.
The Football League's Young Player of the Year limped out of the match against Leicester last week with a groin strain, missing the draw at Blackpool and last night's defeat to Nottingham Forest.
Clyne is major doubt for Saturday's encounter with Cardiff and concerns are growing that the injury will sideline him for the remainder of the campaign.
"Nathaniel is having a scan tomorrow and we will know more then," confirmed manager Paul Hart.
Clyne's injury is the last thing Palace need.
Danny Butterfield limped out of the match at the City Ground with a hamstring strain, Nick Carle was ruled out with a calf strain and Matt Lawrence is now suspended for two matches following his red card for deliberate handball.
One ray of light for Hart is that scans have confirmed that defender Paddy McCarthy is only suffering with scar tissue following his latest setback after shoulder surgery.
"The results of Paddy's scan have proved it is just scar tissue that is troubling him, so we will monitor him over the next few days and hopefully he will be back sooner rather than later," added Hart.”
I think Danns slotted in there last night after Lawrence got his marching orders. But I doubt we can afford to play him there against Cardiff. We may see Michael Abnett or Alex Wynter promoted to the first team line-up.
would like to see Michael Abnett given a run-out. cracking little
player. surprised not more of the youth team have been used
when you consider how sparse our 1st team squad is and especially
as the youth team has had a good season.
half time at hillsborough. sheff wed 0-0 watford.
player. surprised not more of the youth team have been used
when you consider how sparse our 1st team squad is and especially
as the youth team has had a good season.
half time at hillsborough. sheff wed 0-0 watford.
Originally Posted by -Bandit-:
“everything is conspiring against us...”
“everything is conspiring against us...”
you got that right. Wednesday score a last minute winner
at Hillsborough. Sheff Wed 2-1 Watford.
we are now adrift in the bottom 3.
Gutted. But typical isn't it? A minute away from a good result for us with them both cancelling each other out and then the worse thing happens, Wednesday score. Feels like the Gods, the fates and everything else is against us.
i kind of expected sheff wed would win. just adds to a great week.
this is from the south london press and tells us how close we could be to possible liquidation in a few months time...
this is from the south london press and tells us how close we could be to possible liquidation in a few months time...
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“ CRYSTAL Palace administrator Brendan Guilfoyle has revealed that he will run out of money to finance the club at the end of the season.
And Guilfoyle is urging interested parties to make their move for the South Londoners before Friday’s deadline for bids.
Rap star P Diddy was linked with a takeover swoop last week but it now appears that the American musician is not looking to invest in the Eagles.
Guilfoyle admits he has contingency plans if Palace do not secure a new owner before the end of the campaign. The biggest problem is that an £800,000-a-month staff wage bill will have to be met without any match income.
The Eagles are currently losing £2.2million a year, although that figure does not include rent on Selhurst Park, which is around £1.2m, and other interest payments.
Guilfoyle said: “I’m always looking nervously forward to the close season when the club ceases playing and the wages still need to be found. I don’t have funding for that period and that is why this deadline for the end of March is a real one. I need to have someone around otherwise I will have to start contingency planning.
“I’ve got a plan but I’m not going to discuss it yet because I’m optimistic we’re going to get a bidder.
“People have been hovering around the club for years - since Simon Jordan indicated he wanted out - and I can’t believe they are going to miss out on this opportunity.
“But if we get to April I will have to say what my contingency plans are - I can’t mess around and not let the supporters know. If I go public with that it might flush purchasers out who feel it is the time to intervene.
“Some clubs stay in administration for 18 months but I don’t understand how they do that. The cash burn in June, July and August is millions of pounds.
“There is a feeling that people are hanging back because somehow the price falls, but I don’t think so. There are a lot of components such as Simon Jordan, who is the biggest creditor, and the stadium to be sorted.”
P Diddy - real name Sean Combs - had hit the headlines last week after claims he was going to make an offer. But Guilfoyle seems to have dismissed that notion.
He said: “There seems to be a desire by him to help. David Groves, one of our associate directors, is in the music and film industry and we’ve got some feedback.
“P Diddy would like to help the club out but doesn’t want to put any money in, according to his people in the UK. On that basis I discount him. I conclude he may be somone potential purchasers want to explore but it doesn’t do me any good. I’m looking for someone who is prepared to direct a large amount of money towards the club.”
One option for Guilfoyle if he is still at Selhurst Park in the summer is to sell all of the first-team squad and operate with a team of youngsters.
That could be the kind of drastic action which could force someone to make their move before the squad is decimated.”
“ CRYSTAL Palace administrator Brendan Guilfoyle has revealed that he will run out of money to finance the club at the end of the season.
And Guilfoyle is urging interested parties to make their move for the South Londoners before Friday’s deadline for bids.
Rap star P Diddy was linked with a takeover swoop last week but it now appears that the American musician is not looking to invest in the Eagles.
Guilfoyle admits he has contingency plans if Palace do not secure a new owner before the end of the campaign. The biggest problem is that an £800,000-a-month staff wage bill will have to be met without any match income.
The Eagles are currently losing £2.2million a year, although that figure does not include rent on Selhurst Park, which is around £1.2m, and other interest payments.
Guilfoyle said: “I’m always looking nervously forward to the close season when the club ceases playing and the wages still need to be found. I don’t have funding for that period and that is why this deadline for the end of March is a real one. I need to have someone around otherwise I will have to start contingency planning.
“I’ve got a plan but I’m not going to discuss it yet because I’m optimistic we’re going to get a bidder.
“People have been hovering around the club for years - since Simon Jordan indicated he wanted out - and I can’t believe they are going to miss out on this opportunity.
“But if we get to April I will have to say what my contingency plans are - I can’t mess around and not let the supporters know. If I go public with that it might flush purchasers out who feel it is the time to intervene.
“Some clubs stay in administration for 18 months but I don’t understand how they do that. The cash burn in June, July and August is millions of pounds.
“There is a feeling that people are hanging back because somehow the price falls, but I don’t think so. There are a lot of components such as Simon Jordan, who is the biggest creditor, and the stadium to be sorted.”
P Diddy - real name Sean Combs - had hit the headlines last week after claims he was going to make an offer. But Guilfoyle seems to have dismissed that notion.
He said: “There seems to be a desire by him to help. David Groves, one of our associate directors, is in the music and film industry and we’ve got some feedback.
“P Diddy would like to help the club out but doesn’t want to put any money in, according to his people in the UK. On that basis I discount him. I conclude he may be somone potential purchasers want to explore but it doesn’t do me any good. I’m looking for someone who is prepared to direct a large amount of money towards the club.”
One option for Guilfoyle if he is still at Selhurst Park in the summer is to sell all of the first-team squad and operate with a team of youngsters.
That could be the kind of drastic action which could force someone to make their move before the squad is decimated.”
^ God, that's depressing.
Apparently two huge problems are Simon Jordan & Agilo. Instead of accepting the usual 10-20p in the pound for what they're owed as the biggest two creditors, Agilo are holding out for their full £5.5m and Jordan is supposed to have said he wants 50p in the pound, so that's half of what he is owed which is around £10m. Totally unrealistic given the circumstances and the major reason why our club could go to the wall.
Apparently two huge problems are Simon Jordan & Agilo. Instead of accepting the usual 10-20p in the pound for what they're owed as the biggest two creditors, Agilo are holding out for their full £5.5m and Jordan is supposed to have said he wants 50p in the pound, so that's half of what he is owed which is around £10m. Totally unrealistic given the circumstances and the major reason why our club could go to the wall.
Jordan is being a knob if he things he can get half of what
he is owed. if he had any decency or genuine feelings for the
club he claims to support then he should accept the lower
offer and help save the club. and Pricewaterhouse Coopers
are having a laugh also if they think Selhurst is worth £12m.
£8m is more like it.
what chance do we have if companies and people like this
are intent on screwing us over?
he is owed. if he had any decency or genuine feelings for the
club he claims to support then he should accept the lower
offer and help save the club. and Pricewaterhouse Coopers
are having a laugh also if they think Selhurst is worth £12m.
£8m is more like it.
what chance do we have if companies and people like this
are intent on screwing us over?
so, today is the day for the next deadline for those who are interested in buying the club. if no-one steps forward today then there is a very good chance it will be the end of cpfc as we know it. to be honest i just don't see anyone coming forward, if there had been any genuine interest we would have heard something more concrete by now.
Paul Hart has confirmed we will be without SEVEN players for tomorrow's clash with Cardiff.
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“Speaking ahead of the weekend's match against Cardiff City at Selhurst Park, Hart revealed the extent to which injury has plagued his squad.
"Nick Carle has a calf strain and is out for maybe 10-14 days. Paddy McCarthy has had scans this week and we found that the pain he has been suffering on his shoulder is scar tissue. We have to find a way of managing that but he trained yesterday so we have to wait and see how it reacts, but hopefully he is almost there.
"Nathaniel Clyne has a sort of hip injury and he has had scans. He may be back before the end of the season, but again we will have to monitor that. Danny Butterfield has got a hamstring strain and is out for maybe two weeks.
"Alan Lee has a groin strain...[and is out for] maybe a week, maybe more but we will see how it progresses."
Two more players, Claude Davis and Matt Lawrence, will also miss Saturday's game through suspension, which Hart described as "disappointing to say the least", but he confirmed that any young players brought into the squad will take spots on the bench.
"[Any young players will] go on the bench maybe. Apart from the injured players I have just mentioned we will play the experienced players who are fit."
Going into the game, Palace have picked up just two points from the last five games and have slipped into the bottom three. But faced with the question of the threat of relegation, Hart was keen to emphasise that there is still a lot of football to be played.
"We have got to pick up points - that is painfully obvious - but equally there is going to be a lot of twists and turns and other clubs have problems, and results aren't going to go the way we all think they are going to go.
"So we have got to remain strong as a club and I said right at the start it is a very difficult situation. We are equally concerned [about the threat of relegation] and we are trying at all costs to avoid that situation."”
“Speaking ahead of the weekend's match against Cardiff City at Selhurst Park, Hart revealed the extent to which injury has plagued his squad.
"Nick Carle has a calf strain and is out for maybe 10-14 days. Paddy McCarthy has had scans this week and we found that the pain he has been suffering on his shoulder is scar tissue. We have to find a way of managing that but he trained yesterday so we have to wait and see how it reacts, but hopefully he is almost there.
"Nathaniel Clyne has a sort of hip injury and he has had scans. He may be back before the end of the season, but again we will have to monitor that. Danny Butterfield has got a hamstring strain and is out for maybe two weeks.
"Alan Lee has a groin strain...[and is out for] maybe a week, maybe more but we will see how it progresses."
Two more players, Claude Davis and Matt Lawrence, will also miss Saturday's game through suspension, which Hart described as "disappointing to say the least", but he confirmed that any young players brought into the squad will take spots on the bench.
"[Any young players will] go on the bench maybe. Apart from the injured players I have just mentioned we will play the experienced players who are fit."
Going into the game, Palace have picked up just two points from the last five games and have slipped into the bottom three. But faced with the question of the threat of relegation, Hart was keen to emphasise that there is still a lot of football to be played.
"We have got to pick up points - that is painfully obvious - but equally there is going to be a lot of twists and turns and other clubs have problems, and results aren't going to go the way we all think they are going to go.
"So we have got to remain strong as a club and I said right at the start it is a very difficult situation. We are equally concerned [about the threat of relegation] and we are trying at all costs to avoid that situation."”
an annoucement has just gone up on the official club website:
start praying everyone.
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“The club administrators, P & A Partnership are pleased to announce that they are confident that a buyer will be found for the club as the final deadline passed for interested parties to show their hand in taking the club forward.
Brendan Guilfoyle has been working tirelessly to ensure there is a positive conclusion to the current administration at Selhurst Park.
Guilfoyle told the official club website "This deadline was always a real one as once the season comes to its conclusion monies will need to be found. I needed to be in this position as I didn't want to start looking at the alternatives.
"Discussions are at a delicate stage and I am not in a position where I can expand on where we stand at this current time but remain positive that the club's future will be resolved shortly."”
“The club administrators, P & A Partnership are pleased to announce that they are confident that a buyer will be found for the club as the final deadline passed for interested parties to show their hand in taking the club forward.
Brendan Guilfoyle has been working tirelessly to ensure there is a positive conclusion to the current administration at Selhurst Park.
Guilfoyle told the official club website "This deadline was always a real one as once the season comes to its conclusion monies will need to be found. I needed to be in this position as I didn't want to start looking at the alternatives.
"Discussions are at a delicate stage and I am not in a position where I can expand on where we stand at this current time but remain positive that the club's future will be resolved shortly."”
start praying everyone.
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