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“Originally posted by Ciixii
Trawling through past posts Matt trying to find the answer?
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“Originally posted by Ciixii
Trawling through past posts Matt trying to find the answer?
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no as its irrelevant, i.e seeing the nush incident.
Teetotal Cameron Launches 'His' Own Beer.
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OMFG the cameronistas arguments are wearing thinner every day .
OMFG the cameronistas arguments are wearing thinner every day .
You have to admit there’s a certain irony to Cameron promoting alcohol now after repeatedly telling us of his distaste for those that drink a bit too much!
If one was seriously wishing to project the moral high ground of rational imbibing then the last thing one would do is stick one’s name to an alcoholic product, open to the abuse Cameron finds repellent!
Hypocrisy!
If one was seriously wishing to project the moral high ground of rational imbibing then the last thing one would do is stick one’s name to an alcoholic product, open to the abuse Cameron finds repellent!
Hypocrisy!
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“Originally posted by matt.b
Surely as someone not wanting people to drink to much you dont promote it.
Sorry its just a pathetic argument in a profit making society. but poor innocent cam doesnt see that of course, thats why he is a high level manager and studied economic.
Dangerous brothers wasnt such a bad term after all! ”
“Originally posted by matt.b
Surely as someone not wanting people to drink to much you dont promote it
. Sorry its just a pathetic argument in a profit making society. but poor innocent cam doesnt see that of course, thats why he is a high level manager and studied economic.
Dangerous brothers wasnt such a bad term after all! ”
oh for pete's sake - this is such a non-story. its hardly a mass marketing campaign by a big brewer is it?
how likely is it that you'll find *Cameron Stout* down your local?
when did cameron ever say he *doesn't want people to drink* anyway?
its just a gimmick for a Beer Festival in Orkney - its hardly going to be that much of a money spinner.
honestly - you guys worry far too much about this sort of stuff, you really do.
Iain
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“Originally posted by lorry
My my how low can Cameron sink? Agreeing to be photographed with a local beer that has a play on his name in his hand?
I don't know how he can bring himself to do this seeing how he chose not to drink to excess on television, and how he cheerfully socialised when others were drinking.
He has never said he is teetotal. And as far as I know, christians are not forbidden to drink, or endorse beer. There is such a thing as occasional social drinking - it won't be his fault if others choose to drink too much of it! ”
“Originally posted by lorry
My my how low can Cameron sink? Agreeing to be photographed with a local beer that has a play on his name in his hand?
I don't know how he can bring himself to do this seeing how he chose not to drink to excess on television, and how he cheerfully socialised when others were drinking.
He has never said he is teetotal. And as far as I know, christians are not forbidden to drink, or endorse beer. There is such a thing as occasional social drinking - it won't be his fault if others choose to drink too much of it! ”
Oh dear Lorry, I'm afraid some Christians might disagree with you there. The thinking is that since we have been (supposedly) created by God, then we shouldn't pollute our bodies in any way. Alcohol and nicotine are considered poisons.
I'm afraid it's beginning to look as if Shammy's about as Christian as Osama Bin Laden.....
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“Originally posted by iain
oh for pete's sake - this is such a non-story. its hardly a mass marketing campaign by a big brewer is it?
how likely is it that you'll find *Cameron Stout* down your local?
when did cameron ever say he *doesn't want people to drink* anyway?
its just a gimmick for a Beer Festival in Orkney - its hardly going to be that much of a money spinner.
honestly - you guys worry far too much about this sort of stuff, you really do.
Iain ”
“Originally posted by iain
oh for pete's sake - this is such a non-story. its hardly a mass marketing campaign by a big brewer is it?
how likely is it that you'll find *Cameron Stout* down your local?
when did cameron ever say he *doesn't want people to drink* anyway?
its just a gimmick for a Beer Festival in Orkney - its hardly going to be that much of a money spinner.
honestly - you guys worry far too much about this sort of stuff, you really do.
Iain
”
Oh Iain, you're the one who gets his undies in a twist everytime anyone has a laugh about Saint Shameron
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“Originally posted by maisymoo
You have to admit there’s a certain irony to Cameron promoting alcohol now after repeatedly telling us of his distaste for those that drink a bit too much!”
“Originally posted by maisymoo
You have to admit there’s a certain irony to Cameron promoting alcohol now after repeatedly telling us of his distaste for those that drink a bit too much!”
absolutely - of course there's irony there, but its hardly that big a deal really...is it?
except to those who seem to love to have a go at cameron for every little thing...
Iain
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“Originally posted by iain
honestly - you guys worry far too much about this sort of stuff, you really do.
Iain ”
“Originally posted by iain
honestly - you guys worry far too much about this sort of stuff, you really do.
Iain
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We aren't the ones worrying......Perhaps you should support someone a little less controversial next time...
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“Originally posted by matt.b
no as its irrelevant, i.e seeing the nush incident. ”
“Originally posted by matt.b
no as its irrelevant, i.e seeing the nush incident.
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Why is the question irrelevant Matt? If you knew as much about Cameron's drinking habits as you claim in your posts, then surely you could answer such a simple question as 'what are his two favourite alcoholic drinks?'
Cameron went on and on in BB about alcohol, he also hardly drank in there whilst all others did.
Now he's promoting ale.
Iain, you agreed he is a hypocrite and this says same.
Now he's promoting ale.
Iain, you agreed he is a hypocrite and this says same.
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“Originally posted by iain
absolutely - of course there's irony there, but its hardly that big a deal really...is it?
except to those who seem to love to have a go at cameron for every little thing...
Iain ”
“Originally posted by iain
absolutely - of course there's irony there, but its hardly that big a deal really...is it?
except to those who seem to love to have a go at cameron for every little thing...
Iain ”
And what about you Iain? What about the way you come out with your sarky remarks any time anybody makes a comment about Shameron?
Seems to me you like to have a go at forum posters for little things as well
Iain, you had no answer for the relavant bit you left out of your quote. Here it is again:
If one was seriously wishing to project the moral high ground of rational imbibing then the last thing one would do is stick one’s name to an alcoholic product, open to the abuse Cameron finds repellent!
Hypocrisy!
He's a full time hypocrite and this is what put me off him after week 2 or 3.
If one was seriously wishing to project the moral high ground of rational imbibing then the last thing one would do is stick one’s name to an alcoholic product, open to the abuse Cameron finds repellent!
Hypocrisy!
He's a full time hypocrite and this is what put me off him after week 2 or 3.
Well nah of course it's not important but you have to admit there is a certain irony about the whole thing.
It would be somewhat akin to Jon promting his own brand of bible
Or Justine promoting a book called how to be popular
Or Ray promoting a book called how to stay calm while drunk
It would be somewhat akin to Jon promting his own brand of bible
Or Justine promoting a book called how to be popular
Or Ray promoting a book called how to stay calm while drunk
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“Originally posted by Ciixii
Why is the question irrelevant Matt? If you knew as much about Cameron's drinking habits as you claim in your posts, then surely you could answer such a simple question as 'what are his two favourite alcoholic drinks?' ”
“Originally posted by Ciixii
Why is the question irrelevant Matt? If you knew as much about Cameron's drinking habits as you claim in your posts, then surely you could answer such a simple question as 'what are his two favourite alcoholic drinks?' ”
As his statements about alcohol were about alcohol per se and not about a specific drink
Or Iain not letting any points sink in and disecting them to an unnecessary level in order to be deemed correct.
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“Originally posted by matt.b
As his statements about alcohol were about alcohol per se and not about a specific drink ”
“Originally posted by matt.b
As his statements about alcohol were about alcohol per se and not about a specific drink ”
But he mentioned what his favourite alcoholic drinks were, as well as saying in & out of the house, that he doesn't like the taste of most alcoholic drinks, but has no problem with other people drinking in moderation, it's when they drink to excess that he doesn't like it.
Perhaps you have selective memory?
If you don't know the answer to the question, you only have to say so.
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“Originally posted by Ciixii
[b]But he mentioned what his favourite alcoholic drinks were, as well as saying in & out of the house, that he doesn't like the taste of most alcoholic drinks, but has no problem with other people drinking in moderation, it's when they drink to excess that he doesn't like it.”
“Originally posted by Ciixii
[b]But he mentioned what his favourite alcoholic drinks were, as well as saying in & out of the house, that he doesn't like the taste of most alcoholic drinks, but has no problem with other people drinking in moderation, it's when they drink to excess that he doesn't like it.”
yapp i know he drinks and he does theoretically not mind others drinking in moderation. thats why he shouldnt promote it as this is an act of trying increasing the amount of drink consumed
especially as someone who said it on several occasions, and spoilt any party when putting a face on like a raped dromedar in a hailstorm
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“Perhaps you have selective memory?
If you don't know the answer to the question, you only have to say so.”
“Perhaps you have selective memory?
If you don't know the answer to the question, you only have to say so.
”
manipulative questioning and still irrelevant, therefore not worth an answer
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“Originally posted by maisymoo
Iain, you had no answer for the relavant bit you left out of your quote. Here it is again:
If one was seriously wishing to project the moral high ground of rational imbibing then the last thing one would do is stick one’s name to an alcoholic product, open to the abuse Cameron finds repellent!
Hypocrisy!
He's a full time hypocrite and this is what put me off him after week 2 or 3. ”
“Originally posted by maisymoo
Iain, you had no answer for the relavant bit you left out of your quote. Here it is again:
If one was seriously wishing to project the moral high ground of rational imbibing then the last thing one would do is stick one’s name to an alcoholic product, open to the abuse Cameron finds repellent!
Hypocrisy!
He's a full time hypocrite and this is what put me off him after week 2 or 3. ”
so he's a hypocrit - its hardly the crime of the century.
he'd be more of a hypocrit if he went round drinking and getting drunk himself tho' - ie saying he's doesn't like other people doing, and then, hypocritically, doing it himself.
you say he claims the *moral high ground of rational imbibing*?
so its kind of about how much people drink?
so people can have a few drinks and not get completely trollied to the point of obnoxiousness?
so whats the problem?
Iain
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“Originally posted by matt.b
yapp i know he drinks and he does theoretically not mind others drinking in moderation. thats why he shouldnt promote it as this is an act of trying increasing the amount of drink consumed”
“Originally posted by matt.b
yapp i know he drinks and he does theoretically not mind others drinking in moderation. thats why he shouldnt promote it as this is an act of trying increasing the amount of drink consumed”
how is it?
its not just an act of saying
*we make this drink. try it. you might like it*?
brewers are expected to somehow take responsibility over how much of their product is consumed?
Iain
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The point is he's endorsing the very product by which people do the above.
The fact he is a hypocrite allows that the "safe money" resides with his other noticable hypocrisy re his attitude towards threats of violence.
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“so people can have a few drinks and not get completely trollied to the point of obnoxiousness?”
“so people can have a few drinks and not get completely trollied to the point of obnoxiousness?”
The point is he's endorsing the very product by which people do the above.
The fact he is a hypocrite allows that the "safe money" resides with his other noticable hypocrisy re his attitude towards threats of violence.
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“Originally posted by iain
so whats the problem?
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“Originally posted by iain
so whats the problem?
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that drinking in moderation is hardly the reality ------------->AT A BEER FESTIVAL<--------------------
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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“Originally posted by iain
how is it?
its not just an act of saying
*we make this drink. try it. you might like it*?”
“Originally posted by iain
how is it?
its not just an act of saying
*we make this drink. try it. you might like it*?”
well thats level 1 of promotion.
So you are telling me that the brewer just wants all people to drink Cameron Stout and not drink all there other brands, so that not more but different alcohol is consumed
it seems more likely in a market economy that they want you to drink more
as that increases profits. So the aim is to get you buy more on level 2.Still a devote christian promoting a drink with his name AND face on it on a beer festival must be the joke of the century
it like to see the condoms with his face on the top. vaginal cramps
would increase ten fold.
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“Originally posted by Edna
Oh dear Lorry, I'm afraid some Christians might disagree with you there. The thinking is that since we have been (supposedly) created by God, then we shouldn't pollute our bodies in any way. Alcohol and nicotine are considered poisons.
I'm afraid it's beginning to look as if Shammy's about as Christian as Osama Bin Laden..... ”
“Originally posted by Edna
Oh dear Lorry, I'm afraid some Christians might disagree with you there. The thinking is that since we have been (supposedly) created by God, then we shouldn't pollute our bodies in any way. Alcohol and nicotine are considered poisons.
I'm afraid it's beginning to look as if Shammy's about as Christian as Osama Bin Laden..... ”
Really? How do they get on at Communion then, I understood the wine in the cup was to represent the blood of christ
And was not Jesus himself the one who reputedly turned water into wine?
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“Originally posted by matt.b
yapp i know he drinks and he does theoretically not mind others drinking in moderation. thats why he shouldnt promote it as this is an act of trying increasing the amount of drink consumed especially as someone who said it on several occasions, and spoilt any party when putting a face on like a raped dromedar in a hailstorm
manipulative questioning and still irrelevant, therefore not worth an answer ”
“Originally posted by matt.b
yapp i know he drinks and he does theoretically not mind others drinking in moderation. thats why he shouldnt promote it as this is an act of trying increasing the amount of drink consumed
especially as someone who said it on several occasions, and spoilt any party when putting a face on like a raped dromedar in a hailstorm manipulative questioning and still irrelevant, therefore not worth an answer ”
What's manipulative about asking if you had selective memory?
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“Originally posted by Elderflower
Really? How do they get on at Communion then, I understood the wine in the cup was to represent the blood of christ And was not Jesus himself the one who reputedly turned water into wine? ”
“Originally posted by Elderflower
Really? How do they get on at Communion then, I understood the wine in the cup was to represent the blood of christ
And was not Jesus himself the one who reputedly turned water into wine? ”
Don't know about all churches, but the Salvation Army and Presbyterians both use orange juice instead of wine for communion.
As for Jesus turning water into wine. That's a common one brought up by people to support drinking, however you have to take the story within historical context.
In Jesus' time wine with a low alcohol content was drunk with meals simply because the water wasn't always safe. Bear in mind that the miracle happened at a wedding feast when the hosts wouldn't want to poison their guests.
Think less of wine and more of grape juice and you'd be closer to the mark.
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