5.1 Sound Question

firedog · 12-07-2008, 15:22

I have a reasonably good quality 5.1 set. At the moment, it's 3.1 because I cant have the rear speakers due to the layout of my lounge.

Is it worth having the 2 rear speakers at the front anyway, or will this be stupid? Or am I just best to keep the 3.1 how I have now - F-LEFT, F-RIGHT, and CENTRE.

Cheers

PlasticTurd · 12-07-2008, 15:31

LOL copycat. Did you copy and paste my 5.1 slang of 'f-left/f-right' from my posts?!

paulr2006 · 12-07-2008, 15:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by firedog

I have a reasonably good quality 5.1 set. At the moment, it's 3.1 because I cant have the rear speakers due to the layout of my lounge.

Is it worth having the 2 rear speakers at the front anyway, or will this be stupid? Or am I just best to keep the 3.1 how I have now - F-LEFT, F-RIGHT, and CENTRE.

Cheers

No don't use the rears at the front it will simply confuse the effect. Is there no way thay can be used at the rear as the sound effect improvment would be great?

PlasticTurd · 12-07-2008, 15:50

Surely itd be ok wouldnt it? Its up to the user really.

firedog · 12-07-2008, 15:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulr2006

No don't use the rears at the front it will simply confuse the effect. Is there no way thay can be used at the rear as the sound effect improvment would be great?

No theres no way I can. Is there any point having 3.1 then?

davidweller · 12-07-2008, 15:57

I have the same problem, though my television has a DD 5.1 decoder built it.

I have my surround speakers mounted either side of the television and have no problems with the sound.

firedog · 12-07-2008, 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidweller

I have the same problem, though my television has a DD 5.1 decoder built it.

I have my surround speakers mounted either side of the television and have no problems with the sound.

so you have the rear speakers at the front?
i have no option to change any settings to have all 5 at the front, i simply wire each speaker into the sub, 2 of them go into whats called REAR1 and REAR2 so i cant change those to front also.

paulr2006 · 12-07-2008, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidweller

I have the same problem, though my television has a DD 5.1 decoder built it.

I have my surround speakers mounted either side of the television and have no problems with the sound.

If you have no problems with the sound that should come from the rear coming from the front along with front effects which are timed differently from the rears, fine, personaly it would drive me nuts & frankly it's pointless, you would be better with just the front 3.

paulr2006 · 12-07-2008, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by firedog

No theres no way I can. Is there any point having 3.1 then?

Yes because you should at least get a better quality of sound than you would from the TV alone & the centre Dialogue channel will focus/steer you to the screen.

firedog · 12-07-2008, 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulr2006

Yes because you should at least get a better quality of sound than you would from the TV alone & the centre Dialogue channel will focus/steer you to the screen.

i could actually wire 2 speakers for LEFT, 2 speakers for RIGHT, and 1 central. You put the wires into the back of the sub and clip them in, so i could just tangle up two speaker wires together and put them into one space on the back of the sub? Is there any point?

Seymour Cat · 12-07-2008, 17:19

If you can't fit the surround speakers behind the sofa, you can put them either side of the sofa, facing each other, so they act like side speakers rather than rears.

Quite a few cinemas use this arrangement.

davidweller · 12-07-2008, 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by firedog

so you have the rear speakers at the front?
i have no option to change any settings to have all 5 at the front, i simply wire each speaker into the sub, 2 of them go into what's called REAR1 and REAR2 so i cant change those to front also.

Yes.

Basically have them in a line:

LS>LF>C>RF>RS

The LF, C, RF are contained within the television set, of course.

It may not please the purists but it sounds OK to me.

firedog · 12-07-2008, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seymour Cat

If you can't fit the surround speakers behind the sofa, you can put them either side of the sofa, facing each other, so they act like side speakers rather than rears.

Quite a few cinemas use this arrangement.

to do this, i would have to have the speakers on the floor which i doubt would do anything, plus one of them would have to go across the kitchen door!

paulr2006 · 12-07-2008, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by firedog

i could actually wire 2 speakers for LEFT, 2 speakers for RIGHT, and 1 central. You put the wires into the back of the sub and clip them in, so i could just tangle up two speaker wires together and put them into one space on the back of the sub? Is there any point?

I would not recommend you do this as you will be altering the impedance presented to the Amp. which could cause problems.

12-07-2008, 15:22	#1
firedog Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,132	5.1 Sound Question I have a reasonably good quality 5.1 set. At the moment, it's 3.1 because I cant have the rear speakers due to the layout of my lounge. Is it worth having the 2 rear speakers at the front anyway, or will this be stupid? Or am I just best to keep the 3.1 how I have now - F-LEFT, F-RIGHT, and CENTRE. Cheers

12-07-2008, 15:31	#2
PlasticTurd Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 570	LOL copycat. Did you copy and paste my 5.1 slang of 'f-left/f-right' from my posts?!

12-07-2008, 15:46	#3
paulr2006 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 1,098	Quote: Originally Posted by firedog I have a reasonably good quality 5.1 set. At the moment, it's 3.1 because I cant have the rear speakers due to the layout of my lounge. Is it worth having the 2 rear speakers at the front anyway, or will this be stupid? Or am I just best to keep the 3.1 how I have now - F-LEFT, F-RIGHT, and CENTRE. Cheers No don't use the rears at the front it will simply confuse the effect. Is there no way thay can be used at the rear as the sound effect improvment would be great?

12-07-2008, 15:50	#4
PlasticTurd Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 570	Surely itd be ok wouldnt it? Its up to the user really.

12-07-2008, 15:55	#5
firedog Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,132	Quote: Originally Posted by paulr2006 No don't use the rears at the front it will simply confuse the effect. Is there no way thay can be used at the rear as the sound effect improvment would be great? No theres no way I can. Is there any point having 3.1 then?

12-07-2008, 15:57	#6
davidweller Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wallington, Surrey Posts: 6,960	I have the same problem, though my television has a DD 5.1 decoder built it. I have my surround speakers mounted either side of the television and have no problems with the sound.

12-07-2008, 16:11	#7
firedog Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,132	Quote: Originally Posted by davidweller I have the same problem, though my television has a DD 5.1 decoder built it. I have my surround speakers mounted either side of the television and have no problems with the sound. so you have the rear speakers at the front? i have no option to change any settings to have all 5 at the front, i simply wire each speaker into the sub, 2 of them go into whats called REAR1 and REAR2 so i cant change those to front also.

12-07-2008, 16:50	#8
paulr2006 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 1,098	Quote: Originally Posted by davidweller I have the same problem, though my television has a DD 5.1 decoder built it. I have my surround speakers mounted either side of the television and have no problems with the sound. If you have no problems with the sound that should come from the rear coming from the front along with front effects which are timed differently from the rears, fine, personaly it would drive me nuts & frankly it's pointless, you would be better with just the front 3.

12-07-2008, 16:52	#9
paulr2006 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 1,098	Quote: Originally Posted by firedog No theres no way I can. Is there any point having 3.1 then? Yes because you should at least get a better quality of sound than you would from the TV alone & the centre Dialogue channel will focus/steer you to the screen.

12-07-2008, 17:12	#10
firedog Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,132	Quote: Originally Posted by paulr2006 Yes because you should at least get a better quality of sound than you would from the TV alone & the centre Dialogue channel will focus/steer you to the screen. i could actually wire 2 speakers for LEFT, 2 speakers for RIGHT, and 1 central. You put the wires into the back of the sub and clip them in, so i could just tangle up two speaker wires together and put them into one space on the back of the sub? Is there any point?

12-07-2008, 17:19	#11
Seymour Cat Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bristol Posts: 1,105	If you can't fit the surround speakers behind the sofa, you can put them either side of the sofa, facing each other, so they act like side speakers rather than rears. Quite a few cinemas use this arrangement.

12-07-2008, 17:20	#12
davidweller Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wallington, Surrey Posts: 6,960	Quote: Originally Posted by firedog so you have the rear speakers at the front? i have no option to change any settings to have all 5 at the front, i simply wire each speaker into the sub, 2 of them go into what's called REAR1 and REAR2 so i cant change those to front also. Yes. Basically have them in a line: LS>LF>C>RF>RS The LF, C, RF are contained within the television set, of course. It may not please the purists but it sounds OK to me.

12-07-2008, 17:25	#13
firedog Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,132	Quote: Originally Posted by Seymour Cat If you can't fit the surround speakers behind the sofa, you can put them either side of the sofa, facing each other, so they act like side speakers rather than rears. Quite a few cinemas use this arrangement. to do this, i would have to have the speakers on the floor which i doubt would do anything, plus one of them would have to go across the kitchen door!

12-07-2008, 18:26	#14
paulr2006 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 1,098	Quote: Originally Posted by firedog i could actually wire 2 speakers for LEFT, 2 speakers for RIGHT, and 1 central. You put the wires into the back of the sub and clip them in, so i could just tangle up two speaker wires together and put them into one space on the back of the sub? Is there any point? I would not recommend you do this as you will be altering the impedance presented to the Amp. which could cause problems.

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