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Old 23-08-2008, 23:19
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Here is the actual plan and by the way Memphis isn't really Dan's closest ally, Memphis tries to work everyone.

Anyway here is Dan's thinking as far as I can tell:

-He's put Jerry and Memphis on the block
-Prior to this he secured the word of both Keesha and Renny to keep Memphis in this week and even though Renny doesn't trust Memphis she said she'll stick by what Dan wants.
-The plan is for either Dan, Memphis or possibly even Keesha or Renny to win the Veto and take Memphis off and replace him with Michelle with the intention of voting Michelle out. Taking Michelle out breaks her ties with Memphis and also breaks up her alliance with Ollie.
-Ollie has already said that if he wins Veto he will take Jerry off "So that Dan has to put up a member of his own alliance", except this wasn't part of the deal so as Ollie is planning on breaking the deal, Dan will still put up Michelle if either Jerry or Memphis come off the block.

It could backfire big time or it could just be a great great move.
Dan's now one two comps in a row his not winning comps has taken a back seat I see this paying off for him and his alliance, can't see them failing
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Old 24-08-2008, 00:31
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Old 24-08-2008, 00:56
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Good.

I guess that was plotted all along. Now Dan has all the power - though if he risks double crossing Ollie by nomming Michelle or Ollie himself, it could backfire.

Who'd have thought this time last week that we'd actually be considering Ollie's gameplaying abilities?
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Old 24-08-2008, 01:44
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If this works Dan will have pulled off a masterstroke. This was his plan for Memphis to win POV and to backdoor Michelle (although it's not quite backdooring cos Michelle played in POV).

With Michelle gone that will leave Ollie on his own, Jerry just sucks up to whoever is HoH. Worst case scenario is Ollie winning the FF HoH on Thursday cos he'd put Dan up and Dan could very well be evicted. But hopefully, Memphis, Renny or Keesha can pull out a HoH win and nominate Ollie and Jerry.
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Old 24-08-2008, 02:24
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If this works Dan will have pulled off a masterstroke. This was his plan for Memphis to win POV and to backdoor Michelle (although it's not quite backdooring cos Michelle played in POV).

With Michelle gone that will leave Ollie on his own, Jerry just sucks up to whoever is HoH. Worst case scenario is Ollie winning the FF HoH on Thursday cos he'd put Dan up and Dan could very well be evicted. But hopefully, Memphis, Renny or Keesha can pull out a HoH win and nominate Ollie and Jerry.
I thought Michelle was a member of the Rennygades with Memphis, Dan and Keesha. What's happened to result in Dan wanting to backdoor Michelle?
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Old 24-08-2008, 02:34
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I thought Michelle was a member of the Rennygades with Memphis, Dan and Keesha. What's happened to result in Dan wanting to backdoor Michelle?
I don't think it's anything personal. He just wants to keep his Memphis/Annoying Ass Keesha alliance around for now, or so I gather.

Also, I get the impression that he's not terribly fond of Renny. He's civil to her, but ever since her HoH reign, there's a strange tension. The Rennygades were never much more than a faint idea of a late-night BS party anyway.
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Old 24-08-2008, 03:53
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I don't think it's anything personal. He just wants to keep his Memphis/Annoying Ass Keesha alliance around for now, or so I gather.

Also, I get the impression that he's not terribly fond of Renny. He's civil to her, but ever since her HoH reign, there's a strange tension. The Rennygades were never much more than a faint idea of a late-night BS party anyway.
Thanks.

I guess he must see Michelle as a danger to Keesha then - because I don't think she'd ever target Memphis (the week Jessie went was an exception).

I think he sees the problems between Memphis, Renny and Jerry. I wonder whether he'll be swayed to keep his promise to Ollie and target Renny instead, keeping Michelle safe and Ollie onside in the process?
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Old 25-08-2008, 04:07
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Jerry has gone up to Dan in the HOH room to negotiate.

And Michelle and Ollie are whispering and plotting too
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Old 25-08-2008, 04:20
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Jerry has gone up to Dan in the HOH room to negotiate.

And Michelle and Ollie are whispering and plotting too
Where are we LF wise?

Memphis has won veto - I guess the veto ceremony hasn't taken place yet though, hence the plotting and negotiations going on?
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Old 25-08-2008, 04:38
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Jerry just gone, Dan saying "who is lying, who is telling the truth? It is my job to find out." WTTE.

He is now going down to the house.

Ollie and Dan in HOH room.
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Old 25-08-2008, 04:43
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Jerry just gone, Dan saying "who is lying, who is telling the truth? It is my job to find out." WTTE.

He is now going down to the house.

Ollie and Dan in HOH room.
What's he trying to do - turn the House into an Agatha Christie novel?

"Ah Monsieur Ollie, I zee you 'ave a problem..."
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Old 25-08-2008, 04:54
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I cannot keep track of this conversation. They are both trying to find out who is lying and how much the other knows. It sounds open and honest but there is obfuscation.
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Old 25-08-2008, 04:59
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I cannot keep track of this conversation. They are both trying to find out who is lying and how much the other knows. It sounds open and honest but there is obfuscation.
That's too long a word for this time of the morning.

The problem is Ollie doesn't trust Dan and Dan has entered this over his head. However, he shouldn't worry. Just go along with who Ollie wants as the veto replacement (in all liklihood Keesha) - depend on Renny and Memphis saving Keesha, then evict Jerry with his casting vote. He may just have to forget targeting Michelle for now. Too much pressure on him, and with Memphis still upset with him presumably, he can't afford to turn Ollie/Michelle against him as well.
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Old 25-08-2008, 05:07
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The problem is Ollie doesn't trust Dan and Dan has entered this over his head. However, he shouldn't worry. Just go along with who Ollie wants as the veto replacement (in all liklihood Keesha) - depend on Renny and Memphis saving Keesha, then evict Jerry with his casting vote. He may just have to forget targeting Michelle for now. Too much pressure on him, and with Memphis still upset with him presumably, he can't afford to turn Ollie/Michelle against him as well.
That is reverting to hos low profile approach.

He looks a lot more relaxed now with Renny, Keesha and Memphis. They have guessed what Jerry said about his alliance. He is being cagey about what he and Michelle agreed.
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Old 25-08-2008, 05:11
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That is reverting to hos low profile approach.

He looks a lot more relaxed now with Renny, Keesha and Memphis. They have guessed what Jerry said about his alliance. He is being cagey about what he and Michelle agreed.
I wouldn't like to be in his shoes if Memphis wins HoH next week though - obviously he'll go after Ollie, but after that he's already said he'd like Michelle to reach final week (albeit a week is a long time in BB) with him, and Dan would be an easy target after his actions this week.

Poor Jerry. Digging a hole for himself. He could be gone on Thursday.
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Old 25-08-2008, 05:19
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I wouldn't like to be in his shoes if Memphis wins HoH next week though - obviously he'll go after Ollie, but after that he's already said he'd like Michelle to reach final week (albeit a week is a long time in BB) with him, and Dan would be an easy target after his actions this week.

Poor Jerry. Digging a hole for himself. He could be gone on Thursday.
HOH is a poisoned chalice. Dan seems to be finding it difficult, he probably loves it really. I am giving up on the LF, Keesha's voice drills through my skull.
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Old 25-08-2008, 05:26
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HOH is a poisoned chalice. Dan seems to be finding it difficult, he probably loves it really. I am giving up on the LF, Keesha's voice drills through my skull.
Dan tried to remove the poisoned chalice by placing much of the power in Ollie's hands, thinking that Memphis would accept being nominated as Dan could save him ahead of Jerry, and that he would have the nerve to nominate and backdoor Michelle when the time came. Again, in the case of Michelle, Memphis could be an issue as they were close. Ollie and Memphis could well try to evict Jerry, leaving Dan placing pressure on Renny and Keesha to evict Michelle (Renny voting to save Jerry???) to at least take it to tiebreak.
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Old 25-08-2008, 11:09
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I thought Michelle was a member of the Rennygades with Memphis, Dan and Keesha. What's happened to result in Dan wanting to backdoor Michelle?
The RENEgades is only Dan and Memphis. It has nothing to do with Renny, Keesha and certainly not Michelle. Dan and Memphis are aligned with Renny and Keesha for the time being but they have no alliance name, hence Dan saying to Renny on last nights show "You need to think of a name".

Michelle is not in those plans whatsoever and Dan found this out by making the deal with Ollie. Dan got so much information about where people stand in this game, Dan holds all the power right now. With Michelle gone that leaves Ollie alone, it also takes away that tie with Memphis and means Memphis will have to stick close to Dan in order to move further in the game.

If Michelle goes up and out, Dan will only have Ollie coming after him (cos Dan is going to make a deal with Jerry saying that if they keep him in he'll put up Ollie next week). Memphis isn't going to turn on Dan if Michelle is gone because who else will Memphis have? He sure as hell isn't going to get in with Keesha or Renny those two a tight. He most definitely won't be aligning with Jerry and very unlikely to align with Ollie. So Memphis and Dan need to stick together.
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Old 25-08-2008, 14:27
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lol just read this on another site:

Jerry’s fired up about Renny/Keesha, “I’m going to go up to her picture and say B!tch, B!tch, B!tch”

lol, he won't tell them to their face
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Old 25-08-2008, 22:01
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Dan put up Michelle after Memphis used the Veto and it all kicked off.

Ollie told Memphis to "Suck my dick, you faggot".
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Old 25-08-2008, 22:09
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Dan put up Michelle after Memphis used the Veto and it all kicked off.

Ollie told Memphis to "Suck my dick, you faggot".

Did this just happen now?

I've just watched yesterdays update and read on jokers what the Veto situation was.

Glad that shes up! Are we expecting anotehr fight in the Veto episode tomorrow?
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Old 25-08-2008, 22:27
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HOH is a poisoned chalice. Dan seems to be finding it difficult, he probably loves it really. I am giving up on the LF, Keesha's voice drills through my skull.
She needs to go so badly. That godawful voice that reminds me of Flipper with cramps.

Back to the feeds, to say Ollie is upset would be an understatement. If Keesha could shut up, it would be riveting.
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Old 25-08-2008, 22:37
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The irony here is I think Memphis, Ollie and Renny'll prefer to evict Jerry. Dan's got some more talking to do if he's to carry off his plan. Ollie'll never listen - but the other two might.
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Old 25-08-2008, 23:06
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Nah the plan is already confirmed Renny, Keesha and Memphis all want Michelle out, she is more of a threat than Jerry.

They plan to let Jerry think that he is going but then last minute offer him a deal and say "Jerry if we save you then if you win HoH you have to put up Ollie".

But yeah, Michelle is out of there.
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Old 25-08-2008, 23:10
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Also Ollie may be kicked out of the show by BB, he started throwing shit around the house, kicking over trash cans, throwing the weights and refused to come to the DR when BB called him.
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