Cameron Stout.....Good Role Model or Flawed Lout?

Is Cameron Stout a good role model. Naturally some would say that he isn't a role model at all...but being a role model isn't something you chose to be, it's something you are and Cameron hasn't paused in his desire to take the higher moral ground on an number of occasions. "He hopes to become a TV evangelist with his own religious programme" and of course his mother certainly believes he's a something of a role model

What's this it says "You can still have a good time without drinking, cursing and being badly behaved" ...She didn't watch much BB then....... He avoided drink like the plague while in the show but wasn't this by his own admission a way to keep concealed his less than exemplary tendencies? I won't mention recent events......

So is he any good as a role model........Frankly no. His numerous threats he loves to give out, his failure to live by the tenants of Christianity....although maybe he does in a selective way..his less than tolerant and inclusive views on gays rights anyone? Clearly some churches are behind him believing him to be the great role model they need the Evangelical Alliance for example ......but like Cameron's selective Christian behavior they've grasped the bits they want and left out the punching faces to the backs of their heads....Of course Jesus used to say that all the time to worshippers..it was a joke after all ...And of course shouldn't a good role model be able to avoid any implication of behavior that isn't exemplory, something which Cameron seems to have failed to do.....

So - Role Model or Flawed Lout?............What Would Jesus Do?........Would he spread love, tolerance and understanding or is a new movement or angry, eyerolling, woman threatening totally fake Christians going to sweep the country....Are religious studies classes going to be about how to look as hateful behind peoples backs as possible and shout "I'll punch your ****ing lights out" at women........Nope........If he's a role model then he's a bad one........Any thoughts comrades?

Cameron Stout is the perfect role model for any evangelical movement since he represents their morals and aims perfectly.

Hypocritical, homophobic, misogynistic, money-grabbing, conniving......the list of similar qualities goes on and on.

Cameron is creepy.
He is a hypocrite and a crafty devil.
He does Christianty no favours, as the Christian ethic is a good ideal mainly but as you say, he's rather selective.
Nope. I watched him bitch behind HMs backs, I heard his vehement exhortations, I heard his OTT desires regarding Jon's remixed shampoo and of course his machinations regarding Lisa's windpipe, Jon's face and loads more.
Oh, here is the first lesson:

Cameron: And lo, a brazen maiden did enter the washing arena and I happened upon her ample bosoms. And did I leave bretheren? Get real, like hell I left! I copped a sly eyefull like Scott Ray and Jon pointed out I did everytime the ladies sunned themselves or had a dip! I'm daft but not THAT daft!"
Ahem..not a role model unless you are considering a career in spin and maintaining you are wonderously amazed at things you've done so often a genuine reaction would be a yawn as opposed to a gurn of outrageuos amazement.
Apart from that I think he's wonderful.

Just read yours Edna. Amen!

He certainly seems to have his flaws that's true.....It's hard to believe so many seem to think he's their ideal role model

Thankee Maisy

It's simple. Pick Cameron as your role model and you the perfect excuse for your own homophobia, violent tendencies, misogyny, greed.......

Yes, what a role model..

Someone who lies, fabricates, pretends, is evidently innately nasty...

..hey..

..I hear alistair Campbell's just resigned Cameron.........!!

Is that really how the modern church wants to be represented...backward, hypocritical and fake......?

Well it's the way the church has been for 2,000 years now - why change?

The way this thread is going isn't fair on Christians.

Just because Cameron is a pitiful excuse as a christian,..doesn't mean that the many good people who support the faith should be demonized.

Exactly.....The very point is Cameron isn't a good role model.....It seems a dreadful mistake that he's been promoted as one....

seconded alrightmate,
i am not a christian, but mrs skaz is...and her dad's a retired vicar. both of them are wonderful people who follow the christian religion with their hearts.
and they've never tried to change me, or looked down on me for my atheist views.
not all christians should be tarred with the dirty brush that those like cameron wield.

Yes,..it's bloody tragic...it does the Chrisian faith a great diservice if he going to promote their wares in the future.

Anybody heard of Jimmy Swaggart?

Can't have yet another fake doing the rounds,..the more of these evangelist con-artists that pop up,..the more nails in the coffin of Christianity...The more extreme, distorted views of Christianity start floating around, to further undermine the intentions of good people who also follow the faith.

A lot of money from TV evangelism,...not a bad business proposition for those who are so inclined.
It's almost the perfect job for a businessman who can project a fake persona.

(By the way, Mes,..I wasn't refering to you in my last post)

Hang on,.........

.......Cameron wants to be a TV evangelist, and spread the word.

He's meant to be a born-again Christian who has only been practising the faith for a couple of years isn't he?

What sort of experience and wisdom is he going to bring to the masses?
For all we know he could be only halfway through reading The Bible during this possible brief fliration with Christianity..

I can only see him bringing his own extremely limited interpretation to people,..and from what I've seen of him so far,..it sounds bloody scary.

Is this the natural leap from the bit in the article where it says
"And he has already hired an agent to start a TV career. "I wouldn't mind being a presenter on Songs of Praise, it'd be cool. I liked what Thora Hird did," he said.

No,..it's a natural leap from the bit in the article where he says he wants to be a TV evangelist.

In one interview he was asked if he would do something like Songs of Praise....he replied,.."Oh...I haven't thought that far ahead"
And this interview at the same time, conflicted with this notion that he hadn't thought ahead, where he mentioned his hopes to become a TV evangelist.
Last edited by Alrightmate : 29-08-2003 at 21:13

Thanks, that has made it less confusing

Well talking of Cameron, and therefore gross manifest hypocrisy, I remember the auditions for BB3 and I still have the vids. The snidey, snotty producers giving us their unmissable insight as to what calibre of "lab rat" they required for BB3 and I remember them saying "we don't want a "bible basher" as that will turn off the viewers..." (their words, essentially).
So what occurs?
What it is, is simple, nobody likes "cold callers" be it Double Glazing sales folk on the phone to those scarey too-clean-cut suited folk who knock on your door in pairs and ask "Have you thought about the Bible" to which I reply, "Yes, have you considered Roger's Profannisaurus?" and if you are "Witnesses" where was the accident?, and other such side-splitting sarcastic rejoinders. And what we got in BB4 was Cameron, the "cold caller" in the diary room in YOUR living room! Arghh!
There are certain topics for humans guaranteed to stir it up and that includes religion, politics and money. This is why Endemol previously steered well clear of the Camerons of this world and who knows why they did a 180 this year??!
Cameron wanted to show us his supposed boyish naive charm and he thought that his "readings" somehow went towards making him a guaranteed great role model but he came over as what he actually is, to me, a smarmy boring homophobic bigoted misogynistic letch with sufficient worldly savvy to win the darn thing! Reprehensible behaviour!

ughh, no, I'm not feeling well, I think it's another bout of Cameron fatigue....

i think most people will have forgot about Cameron within 6 months, apart from him maybe appearing on songs of praise when they go up to Orkney or something.

Except for in here of course Even poor Jon doesn't get much of a mention these days in comparison

We now go over to the Cameron apologists, er, "appreciation society", where I can see there’s a full turn out, so both members, this is for you:
It’s the euphemistic eulogy Cameron benevolent interpretation of that abstemious tea-total beer promoting one’s comments:

when he screamed at a woman: "I'll punch her f***ing lights out!"

he really meant:

“I will disable her Christmas tree decorations that appear to be still functioning and somewhat over-amorous despite being disconnected from the mains!”

And when he said:

"If someone doesn't get this woman out of my face I'll finish her off."

He really meant :

“I have a female person lodged in my mien and could someone kindly help her to alight or I may have to complete the transaction myself”

Obviously.

I'm sure there's some out there. Sad thing is the last Christian who talked sense, in my opinion, was wandering around Jerusalem 2,000 years ago.

My dislike of the many churches out there is no secret.

i take it i'm supposed to be one of those two am I?

Yes I can tell that DryHumper!!
"prasie the Cam..., er Lord!"

I do know there's actually loads of Cam supporters but am so glad NOT to be one! I'm never keen on those who can't speak for themselves and have to have a book/crutch to lean on before they espouse anything meaningful.
Some of us don't need a script, we learned life's lessons by growing up.

Yes some of us did