Vodafone PAYG New tariff 1st Sept

eddie2004 · 19-07-2008, 19:28

Simply. Thats the name of Voda's new tariff.

From 1st Sept all customers on Anynet or Anytime will automatically transfered to Simply.

All calls cost 20p per min, anytime, any network, text 10p.

The bad news for new customers Stop the Clock won't be available.

The good news for existing customers Stop the Clock gets transfered to the new tariff!

So if your thinking of moving to Vodafone PAYG, do it before 1st Sept or miss out on Stop the clock.

Adrenalyz · 19-07-2008, 21:05

Oh wow, 20p per minute cross network? Such good value except compared to tmobile and Three.

Appleseed · 19-07-2008, 21:11

And Virgin

And Orange

ilovekrys · 19-07-2008, 21:23

and when they do it, it will have the call charge put up again to 20p for the 1st minute

davethorp · 19-07-2008, 21:31

STC no longer for new customers is a bit pants

Adrenalyz · 19-07-2008, 22:48

Yeah, yeah, but apart from all that, it's good value.

Appleseed · 19-07-2008, 22:54

I think that eventually, all the networks will try and tempt people onto these 30 day rolling contracts, which, i have to say, are very good value.
Pay and Go is more and more being geared so that unless you are a VERY light user (like my Dad who has had £12 odd on his phone for well over a year!), you'd be better of on a 30 day-er

prking · 20-07-2008, 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayley's Mystery

I think that eventually, all the networks will try and tempt people onto these 30 day rolling contracts, which, i have to say, are very good value.
Pay and Go is more and more being geared so that unless you are a VERY light user (like my Dad who has had £12 odd on his phone for well over a year!), you'd be better of on a 30 day-er

That's just nonsense. What networks want is for people to buy bolt-ons. Networks like PAYG customers because they pay up front.

As an example, I top-up £15 a month on O2. This gives me 1,000 free minutes from my favourite postcode to landlines and O2 Mobiles. I then spend £5 of that £15 on a Your Numbers bolt-on which gives me 1,000 minutes/texts to my choice of 10 numbers. I've still got £10 left to cover my x-net calls. Plus I get 10% back every three months. Plus an O2 Treat (I chose free voicemail).

DXRulz · 20-07-2008, 11:41

And if you want more details, go here: http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=4346

My main concern (much like people over at that forum) is how and if free weekends will be impacted? That and internet access were the reasons i moved from O2 to Vodafone because as many people here know, you dont get full internet access on O2 PAYG (i dont know if that has changed yet) but you do on the other networks including Vodafone.

davethorp · 20-07-2008, 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrenalyz

Yeah, yeah, but apart from all that, it's good value.

So an hour long evening call that currently costs 30p under the new tariff will cost 60p for existing customers with STC and £12 for new customers

Great value that

Adrenalyz · 20-07-2008, 12:54

Wow, nothing gets past you does it.....

davethorp · 20-07-2008, 13:01

Well a call increasing in cost by 40 times certainly wouldn't

DXRulz · 20-07-2008, 13:06

Well it sounds like free weekends are staying and will be available to new and current customers on the new tariff, so i intend on staying as a customer, unless things change which i dont like.

TheFirstCut · 20-07-2008, 18:05

Simply poor.

DXRulz · 20-07-2008, 18:39

Just wondering, as a result of this what will vodafone PAYG customers here be doing? Staying on it or taking their custom elsewhere?

markjonson · 20-07-2008, 19:15

Staying, but thats only because vodafone are giving us the option to change back to the Anynet tariff for 30 days after the 1st September. If it wasn't for the fact they were doing that i would be off like a shot to be honest and i have been with Vodafone PAYT since 1997 now.

It always seems to be the case if you see a phone company using the words 'Simple' or 'Simply' with respect to tariff changes, you can normally assume the word 'Simple' or 'Simply' really means 'it's going to cost you more'. In this case a lot more if your mainly an off peak user, or a hell of a lot more after the 1st Spetember if your a new customer and stop the clock isn't available to you.

I can see Voda PAYT not gaining many new customers after 1st September 2008.

BMR · 20-07-2008, 20:26

Tesco mobile gives you 20p calls and 10p texts plus 5 numbers half price. On the O2 network.

Virgin gives you 15ppm flat rate calls and 10p texts with bonus minutes and texts.

Three offer 12p calls (and admitedly 12p texts)

Orange offer 15p calls and 10p texts

which makes this just about the worst PAYG deal out there, unless you are an existing customer and get stop the clock.

eddie2004 · 21-07-2008, 08:22

Their is no excuse for not having STC after 1st Sept, its 6 week away, so get those SIM's ordered and enjoy the best call rates around!

60p for 1 hour to any network/off peak. Thats 1p per minute, which network beats that!

20p per min thru the day, which is 10p per min cheaper than Anynet!!!

So i'm sorry, i really don't see anything to complain about.

BMR · 21-07-2008, 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie2004

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So i'm sorry, i really don't see anything to complain about.

Apart from anything else, I can see them phasing out 'stop the clock' over time.

It's a rubbish tariff for new users.

eddie2004 · 21-07-2008, 10:54

If some clever business type, if they exist on such forums!

Stockpile a load of activated Voda SIMs with STC already applied, after Sept 1st, sell em on Ebay for a tenner each!!!

Appleseed · 21-07-2008, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by prking

That's just nonsense. What networks want is for people to buy bolt-ons. Networks like PAYG customers because they pay up front.

As an example, I top-up £15 a month on O2. This gives me 1,000 free minutes from my favourite postcode to landlines and O2 Mobiles. I then spend £5 of that £15 on a Your Numbers bolt-on which gives me 1,000 minutes/texts to my choice of 10 numbers. I've still got £10 left to cover my x-net calls. Plus I get 10% back every three months. Plus an O2 Treat (I chose free voicemail).

What you ought to have written is "In my opinion" before the "that's just nonsense" bit?

All these bolt-on minutes and texts you describe are only valid to other O2 customers. In another section you go on about 'postcodes' - yeah you can make your calls there, but it's bit restricted if you have to be at home, or near to it, and the £10 that covers your x-net calls is enough for about 80 seconds chat per day based on the call charge being 25p/min, not to mention any x-net texting you might be doing. Free voicemail might be good, but it usually means calling the person back because if someone leaves a message, they usually expect it.
So yes, O2 and your workings-out might suit you but who these days has mates who are all on one network? It's just more of a convenience to be able to text anyone, anytime, regardless of the network they are on, and be charged no extra for doing so.
All i was trying to do was to point out was that the mobile phone networks would much rather have people on contracts - even 30 day ones - than on PAYT

Appleseed · 21-07-2008, 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie2004

If some clever business type, if they exist on such forums!

Stockpile a load of activated Voda SIMs with STC already applied, after Sept 1st, sell em on Ebay for a tenner each!!!

And ^^^ that ^^^ is quite a good idea too, I have a few Voda SIMs in the draw.

davethorp · 21-07-2008, 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayley's Mystery

And ^^^ that ^^^ is quite a good idea too, I have a few Voda SIMs in the draw.

You and me both

mediafriendly · 21-07-2008, 18:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrenalyz

Oh wow, 20p per minute cross network? Such good value except compared to tmobile and Three.

20 pence cross network still gives them a gazillion per cent mark-up. Still, it had to happen. And what do you know - o2 are reducing their cross network charge too. Funny that!

Appleseed · 21-07-2008, 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by prking

That's just nonsense. What networks want is for people to buy bolt-ons. Networks like PAYG customers because they pay up front.

Contract customers pay up front too - for the inclusive bits. Billed services (calls over and above allowances) are paid for retrospectively, but that's what credit checking is there for.
The networks have to supply, or subscribe to, terminal services to allow top-ups, and that costs.
And if PAYT customers are preferred by the networks, why aren't they promoting it by giving such customers a much better deal (regarding minutes and texts) than they offer on, say, a just SIM 30-day'er?

19-07-2008, 19:28	#1
eddie2004 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,997	Vodafone PAYG New tariff 1st Sept Simply. Thats the name of Voda's new tariff. From 1st Sept all customers on Anynet or Anytime will automatically transfered to Simply. All calls cost 20p per min, anytime, any network, text 10p. The bad news for new customers Stop the Clock won't be available. The good news for existing customers Stop the Clock gets transfered to the new tariff! So if your thinking of moving to Vodafone PAYG, do it before 1st Sept or miss out on Stop the clock.

19-07-2008, 21:05	#2
Adrenalyz Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 140	Oh wow, 20p per minute cross network? Such good value except compared to tmobile and Three.

19-07-2008, 21:11	#3
Appleseed Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3,673	And Virgin And Orange

19-07-2008, 21:23	#4
ilovekrys Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,601	and when they do it, it will have the call charge put up again to 20p for the 1st minute

19-07-2008, 21:31	#5
davethorp Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire Posts: 7,255	STC no longer for new customers is a bit pants

19-07-2008, 22:48	#6
Adrenalyz Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 140	Yeah, yeah, but apart from all that, it's good value.

19-07-2008, 22:54	#7
Appleseed Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3,673	I think that eventually, all the networks will try and tempt people onto these 30 day rolling contracts, which, i have to say, are very good value. Pay and Go is more and more being geared so that unless you are a VERY light user (like my Dad who has had £12 odd on his phone for well over a year!), you'd be better of on a 30 day-er

20-07-2008, 08:26	#8
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 9,167	Quote: Originally Posted by Hayley's Mystery I think that eventually, all the networks will try and tempt people onto these 30 day rolling contracts, which, i have to say, are very good value. Pay and Go is more and more being geared so that unless you are a VERY light user (like my Dad who has had £12 odd on his phone for well over a year!), you'd be better of on a 30 day-er That's just nonsense. What networks want is for people to buy bolt-ons. Networks like PAYG customers because they pay up front. As an example, I top-up £15 a month on O2. This gives me 1,000 free minutes from my favourite postcode to landlines and O2 Mobiles. I then spend £5 of that £15 on a Your Numbers bolt-on which gives me 1,000 minutes/texts to my choice of 10 numbers. I've still got £10 left to cover my x-net calls. Plus I get 10% back every three months. Plus an O2 Treat (I chose free voicemail).

20-07-2008, 11:41	#9
DXRulz Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 4,196	And if you want more details, go here: http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=4346 My main concern (much like people over at that forum) is how and if free weekends will be impacted? That and internet access were the reasons i moved from O2 to Vodafone because as many people here know, you dont get full internet access on O2 PAYG (i dont know if that has changed yet) but you do on the other networks including Vodafone.

20-07-2008, 11:55	#10
davethorp Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire Posts: 7,255	Quote: Originally Posted by Adrenalyz Yeah, yeah, but apart from all that, it's good value. So an hour long evening call that currently costs 30p under the new tariff will cost 60p for existing customers with STC and £12 for new customers Great value that

20-07-2008, 12:54	#11
Adrenalyz Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 140	Wow, nothing gets past you does it.....

20-07-2008, 13:01	#12
davethorp Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire Posts: 7,255	Well a call increasing in cost by 40 times certainly wouldn't

20-07-2008, 13:06	#13
DXRulz Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 4,196	Well it sounds like free weekends are staying and will be available to new and current customers on the new tariff, so i intend on staying as a customer, unless things change which i dont like.

20-07-2008, 18:05	#14
TheFirstCut Inactive Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Proud European! Posts: 7,120	Simply poor.

20-07-2008, 18:39	#15
DXRulz Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 4,196	Just wondering, as a result of this what will vodafone PAYG customers here be doing? Staying on it or taking their custom elsewhere?

20-07-2008, 19:15	#16
markjonson Forum Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: West Midlands Posts: 252	Staying, but thats only because vodafone are giving us the option to change back to the Anynet tariff for 30 days after the 1st September. If it wasn't for the fact they were doing that i would be off like a shot to be honest and i have been with Vodafone PAYT since 1997 now. It always seems to be the case if you see a phone company using the words 'Simple' or 'Simply' with respect to tariff changes, you can normally assume the word 'Simple' or 'Simply' really means 'it's going to cost you more'. In this case a lot more if your mainly an off peak user, or a hell of a lot more after the 1st Spetember if your a new customer and stop the clock isn't available to you. I can see Voda PAYT not gaining many new customers after 1st September 2008.

20-07-2008, 20:26	#17
BMR Guest Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,240	Tesco mobile gives you 20p calls and 10p texts plus 5 numbers half price. On the O2 network. Virgin gives you 15ppm flat rate calls and 10p texts with bonus minutes and texts. Three offer 12p calls (and admitedly 12p texts) Orange offer 15p calls and 10p texts which makes this just about the worst PAYG deal out there, unless you are an existing customer and get stop the clock.

21-07-2008, 08:22	#18
eddie2004 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,997	Their is no excuse for not having STC after 1st Sept, its 6 week away, so get those SIM's ordered and enjoy the best call rates around! 60p for 1 hour to any network/off peak. Thats 1p per minute, which network beats that! 20p per min thru the day, which is 10p per min cheaper than Anynet!!! So i'm sorry, i really don't see anything to complain about.

21-07-2008, 09:23	#19
BMR Guest Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,240	Quote: Originally Posted by eddie2004 T So i'm sorry, i really don't see anything to complain about. Apart from anything else, I can see them phasing out 'stop the clock' over time. It's a rubbish tariff for new users.

21-07-2008, 10:54	#20
eddie2004 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,997	If some clever business type, if they exist on such forums! Stockpile a load of activated Voda SIMs with STC already applied, after Sept 1st, sell em on Ebay for a tenner each!!!

21-07-2008, 18:29	#21
Appleseed Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3,673	Quote: Originally Posted by prking That's just nonsense. What networks want is for people to buy bolt-ons. Networks like PAYG customers because they pay up front. As an example, I top-up £15 a month on O2. This gives me 1,000 free minutes from my favourite postcode to landlines and O2 Mobiles. I then spend £5 of that £15 on a Your Numbers bolt-on which gives me 1,000 minutes/texts to my choice of 10 numbers. I've still got £10 left to cover my x-net calls. Plus I get 10% back every three months. Plus an O2 Treat (I chose free voicemail). What you ought to have written is "In my opinion" before the "that's just nonsense" bit? All these bolt-on minutes and texts you describe are only valid to other O2 customers. In another section you go on about 'postcodes' - yeah you can make your calls there, but it's bit restricted if you have to be at home, or near to it, and the £10 that covers your x-net calls is enough for about 80 seconds chat per day based on the call charge being 25p/min, not to mention any x-net texting you might be doing. Free voicemail might be good, but it usually means calling the person back because if someone leaves a message, they usually expect it. So yes, O2 and your workings-out might suit you but who these days has mates who are all on one network? It's just more of a convenience to be able to text anyone, anytime, regardless of the network they are on, and be charged no extra for doing so. All i was trying to do was to point out was that the mobile phone networks would much rather have people on contracts - even 30 day ones - than on PAYT

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21-07-2008, 18:31	#22
Appleseed Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3,673	Quote: Originally Posted by eddie2004 If some clever business type, if they exist on such forums! Stockpile a load of activated Voda SIMs with STC already applied, after Sept 1st, sell em on Ebay for a tenner each!!! And ^^^ that ^^^ is quite a good idea too, I have a few Voda SIMs in the draw.

21-07-2008, 18:37	#23
davethorp Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire Posts: 7,255	Quote: Originally Posted by Hayley's Mystery And ^^^ that ^^^ is quite a good idea too, I have a few Voda SIMs in the draw. You and me both

21-07-2008, 18:38	#24
mediafriendly Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,183	Quote: Originally Posted by Adrenalyz Oh wow, 20p per minute cross network? Such good value except compared to tmobile and Three. 20 pence cross network still gives them a gazillion per cent mark-up. Still, it had to happen. And what do you know - o2 are reducing their cross network charge too. Funny that!

21-07-2008, 18:41	#25
Appleseed Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3,673	Quote: Originally Posted by prking That's just nonsense. What networks want is for people to buy bolt-ons. Networks like PAYG customers because they pay up front. Contract customers pay up front too - for the inclusive bits. Billed services (calls over and above allowances) are paid for retrospectively, but that's what credit checking is there for. The networks have to supply, or subscribe to, terminal services to allow top-ups, and that costs. And if PAYT customers are preferred by the networks, why aren't they promoting it by giving such customers a much better deal (regarding minutes and texts) than they offer on, say, a just SIM 30-day'er?