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greenpimpernel
21-07-2008
Forgive me if I,m covering old ground here,but is there anywhere to find a complete list of all prefixes.I know the common or garden ones ,but every so often you get something unusual e.g.I had one guy who,after 40 mins. or so remembered that there was a prefix of 82 on his buisness line??? I tried it and it worked first time !. I thanked him kindly and left, and dont really want to go through that again. Thanks,GP
pkc
21-07-2008
Originally Posted by greenpimpernel:
“Forgive me if I,m covering old ground here,but is there anywhere to find a complete list of all prefixes.I know the common or garden ones ,but every so often you get something unusual e.g.I had one guy who,after 40 mins. or so remembered that there was a prefix of 82 on his buisness line??? I tried it and it worked first time !. I thanked him kindly and left, and dont really want to go through that again. Thanks,GP”

00 International dialing
01 and 02 Geographic numbers - see here for list of codes
030 Geographic rate numbers - used by public sector bodies and not-for-profit bodies.
033 Geographic rate numbers
034 Geographic rate numbers - migrating numbers from matching 084 numbers
037 Geographic rate numbers - migrating numbers from matching 087 numbers
055 Corporate numbers
056 Location independent electronic communications service (VoIP)
070 Personal numbering service
076 Radiopaging services
071 to 075 & 077 to 079 Mobile services
080 Free numbers (but not usually for calls from a mobile phone)
082 Internet for schools
0843 and 0844 Basic (local) rate numbers
0845 Basic (local) rate numbers
0870 Higher (national) rate numbers
0871, 0872 and 0873 Higher (national) rate numbers
090 and 091 Premium rate numbers - costs vary and can be as high as £1.50 a minute
098 Sexual entertainment services at a premium rate
greenpimpernel
21-07-2008
Originally Posted by pkc:
“00 International dialing
01 and 02 Geographic numbers - see here for list of codes
030 Geographic rate numbers - used by public sector bodies and not-for-profit bodies.
033 Geographic rate numbers
034 Geographic rate numbers - migrating numbers from matching 084 numbers
037 Geographic rate numbers - migrating numbers from matching 087 numbers
055 Corporate numbers
056 Location independent electronic communications service (VoIP)
070 Personal numbering service
076 Radiopaging services
071 to 075 & 077 to 079 Mobile services
080 Free numbers (but not usually for calls from a mobile phone)
082 Internet for schools
0843 and 0844 Basic (local) rate numbers
0845 Basic (local) rate numbers
0870 Higher (national) rate numbers
0871, 0872 and 0873 Higher (national) rate numbers
090 and 091 Premium rate numbers - costs vary and can be as high as £1.50 a minute
098 Sexual entertainment services at a premium rate”

Thanks for the prompt reply, but I meant the prefix to be entered into the sky box e.g. 1280 for tiscali b/band 1470 for multi room etc.,my fault for not being specific G.P.
grimsbyseagulls
21-07-2008
Originally Posted by greenpimpernel:
“Thanks for the prompt reply, but I meant the prefix to be entered into the sky box e.g. 1280 for tiscali b/band 1470 for multi room etc.,my fault for not being specific G.P.”

1470 is the dialling prefix needed for the digibox if your telephone line has a permanent 141 block and tells the equipment to override the block and transmit the CLI (calling line indicator) info.
Idiots who think they can dial 141 before making a hoax call to 999 so the operator doesn't know the number they're on soon find out the number calling and easy access to the name/address is available regardless.
grimsbyseagulls
21-07-2008
Originally Posted by pkc:
“00098 Sexual entertainment services at a premium rate”

This numbering range has been migrated over to the 0909 series.
edit. should read 098 in the quote , managed to include the international dialling code by mistake
greenpimpernel
22-07-2008
Thanks again guys, but if you read my OP,Im actually looking for a comprehesive list of ALL known dialling prefixes which may be needed to achieve callback through a sky digibox i.e.different phone suppliers sometimes need different prefixes e.g. 9 for a switch board 81 or 82 for certain buisness lines 1280 for tiscali etc. etc.
pkc
22-07-2008
090 and 091 Premium rate numbers - costs vary and can be as high as £1.50 a minute
098 Sexual entertainment services at a premium rate

is correct... as there are still some 098 numbers - See http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi...nistered/#prem


O/P: You mean a list of indirect telco access numbers, such as 18185, 1890 etc, list is to big for here, but is

available here : http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi...stered/#access
KianD
22-07-2008
He doesn't mean that either, he means numbers to get outside lines, over-ride caller ID on different phone companies, over-ride to a BT landline rather than carrier preselect, etc.

Which unfortunately I don't have...
greenpimpernel
22-07-2008
Originally Posted by KianD:
“He doesn't mean that either, he means numbers to get outside lines, over-ride caller ID on different phone companies, over-ride to a BT landline rather than carrier preselect, etc.

Which unfortunately I don't have...”

Exactly right my freind, thanks for your input ,Regards G.P.
pkc
22-07-2008
Originally Posted by KianD:
“He doesn't mean that either, he means numbers to get outside lines, over-ride caller ID on different phone companies, over-ride to a BT landline rather than carrier preselect, etc.

Which unfortunately I don't have...”

If the O/P had specified what he wanted in THE FIRST PLACE, it would have save people time. I didn't see anything in original message about CPS carriers, or SKY BOXes for that matter.

"Forgive me if I,m covering old ground here,but is there anywhere to find a complete list of all prefixes."
pkc
22-07-2008
Originally Posted by KianD:
“He doesn't mean that either, he means numbers to get outside lines, over-ride caller ID on different phone companies, over-ride to a BT landline rather than carrier preselect, etc.

Which unfortunately I don't have...”


Anyway

1280 is the BT override from another CPS carrier.. to route calls via bt not your main telco..

Business switches in buildings often us 9 to get an outside line, however this could be different per configuration.

All codes that are usable via telephone is listed on that list I gave you.. eg 1471 last caller etc..

FYI most telecoms company use a standard set of number as defined in the list supplied (as per my last) by ofcom.
TheFirstCut
23-07-2008
1280 Hop back onto BT for that call if your calls are auto routed elsewhere.

1470 Send your number for that call if you have permanent number withhold, but need to send your number.

141 - Withhold number

1899 - Pass calls over to cheap call provider Call 1899

18866 - Pass calls over to cheap call provider Call 18866

18185 - Pass calls over to cheap call provider Call 18185
TheFirstCut
23-07-2008
Originally Posted by greenpimpernel:
“Thanks for the prompt reply, but I meant the prefix to be entered into the sky box e.g. 1280 for tiscali b/band 1470 for multi room etc.,my fault for not being specific G.P.”

Getting confused there.

1280 is for putting calls back on to BT of your calls are auto-routed to another provider and your line rental remains with BT.

1470 is send your number this time if you have permanent number withhold.
pkc
23-07-2008
All of which are on the url list I posted...

But this isn't what O/P was asking.. he wants prefixes to allow sky call back.. From memory inbound calls don't use a prefix.
TheFirstCut
23-07-2008
Originally Posted by pkc:
“. From memory inbound calls don't use a prefix.”

No they wouldn't as why would you have to prefix something you have no control over? That's like saying I have to dial a prefix to receive letters through the door.

Plus the Sky box only dials out, nothing dials into it.
pkc
23-07-2008
Originally Posted by TheFirstCut:
“No they wouldn't as why would you have to prefix something you have no control over? That's like saying I have to dial a prefix to receive letters through the door.

Plus the Sky box only dials out, nothing dials into it.”


O/P: "Im actually looking for a comprehesive list of ALL known dialling prefixes which may be needed to achieve callback through a sky digibox"...

No number is needed for call back to a skybox, as its an incoming call...
TheFirstCut
23-07-2008
Originally Posted by pkc:
“O/P: "Im actually looking for a comprehesive list of ALL known dialling prefixes which may be needed to achieve callback through a sky digibox"...

No number is needed for call back to a skybox, as its an incoming call...”

Nothing dials into a Sky box. The Sky box only dials out.

Any commands for the Sky box to dial out are sent over the air via the satellite dish.

No incoming call to the box, the box doesn't answer incoming calls and doesn't because there is none.
pkc
23-07-2008
Originally Posted by TheFirstCut:
“Nothing dials into a Sky box. The Sky box only dials out.

Any commands for the Sky box to dial out are sent over the air via the satellite dish.

No incoming call to the box, the box doesn't answer incoming calls and doesn't because there is none.”

It was stated before "They do callback to make sure the box is plugged into a phone socket". But they changed this too call out an 0800 number instead I beleive.
TheFirstCut
23-07-2008
Originally Posted by pkc:
“It was stated before "They do callback to make sure the box is plugged into a phone socket". But they changed this too call out an 0800 number instead I believe.”

They have never called into the box via the phoneline, it has ALWAYS been a call out to an 0800 number, since day one on 1 Oct 1998.

Yes, they get the box to phone home, but the signal to the box is sent over the air and then the box dials out - it's always been this way.
pkc
23-07-2008
Originally Posted by TheFirstCut:
“They have never called into the box via the phoneline, it has ALWAYS been a call out to an 0800 number, since day one on 1 Oct 1998.

Yes, they get the box to phone home, but the signal to the box is sent over the air and then the box dials out - it's always been this way.”

then i am confused to what the o/p was asking for.. I also noticed that dial prefix option can't be changed.
TheFirstCut
23-07-2008
Originally Posted by pkc:
“then i am confused to what the o/p was asking for.. I also noticed that dial prefix option can't be changed.”

I have no idea either why the OP is asking the question. Doesn't make any sense.
comnut
24-10-2008
when you use sky interactive services, the box dials out, and sends and recieves data through the phone line... the 'interactive' led lights up to indicate this...

- it is only EPG/ 'update init' data that is sent 'over the air', during regular updates - the phone line is used for the return acknowledge, and if it detects you lifting the phone, the line is closed..
Katia Polletin
24-10-2008
Originally Posted by comnut:
“when you use sky interactive services, the box dials out, and sends and recieves data through the phone line... the 'interactive' led lights up to indicate this...

- it is only EPG/ 'update init' data that is sent 'over the air', during regular updates - the phone line is used for the return acknowledge, and if it detects you lifting the phone, the line is closed..”

Phone line is used for chargeable interactive etc.

Phone line is not used to confirm updates. Firmware updates are sent over the air, the Sky box has two segments for firmware, software is downloaded to the one, which checksum data also broadcast to ensure the software isn't corrupt, once the software has been sent to the firmware and is correct, it is switched.

I've had a Sky box since Sky digital first started and it has never other than the first day been connected to the phone line.
comnut
24-10-2008
well they may have changed it a few years ago, but all articles I have read about phone connection for sky box say that if the line is not connected, you will miss the updates... and if you miss too many, you may find the box cannot do it all and crash...
blueplatinum
24-10-2008
That is definitely NOT true.
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