Ray's maybe going because his dad is Kenyan?

I really wish they showed BBAfrica on TV--liked what little I saw

I suspect Ray is going purely because he came 2nd. So any media they do over there will be " Welcome the winner and runner up of UK BB4"
With regards to Scott it seems his opinion of Cameron has changed somewhat, in the BB4 book he calls him a sly fox and fails to name him as a hm he wants to see again.

in an interview Cam did yesterday on northsound 1 he said that he was in a taxi withScott and Ray and they were talking about the 'fake' business and Cam said Scott said that if he was acting he deserved an Oscar because he was exactly the same out of the house as in and that nonone could keep that up for that length of time.

Cam also said it was more than likely that Scott and Steph would be the first up to visit him in Orkney so I think they are friends.

didnt BB africa.com have a live web stream once?

I expect that Ray is going with Cameron as it is a promotional commitment for BB and Ray came 2nd so it makes sense! Scott has promotional commitments over here this week so couldn't have gone anyway.

I'm sure many police officers who go under-cover have to keep up personas for more than nine weeks, so it is possible.

Well, this is true , but I think that Scott who knows Cam well from both inside and outside the house and who has also had time to watch the footage is in a good position to judge Cam and whether people think he is right or not the main point I was making is that he and Cam appear to be getting on well at the moment (based on what was said in the interview)

Hi just wondered what promotional commitments does Scott have this week?

Hi David,

Scott has some thing going on with Bacardi Breezer where he is going on a date with someone who wins a competition in Closer mag. The date is on Thursday I believe for whoever wins! Also I think he is supposed to be doing a couple of appearances for the promotion of the vid and book. I got told this from someone else and can't remember where the appearances are supposed to be or whether it's true, just passing on what I heard, I'll try and find out for you.

He was supposed to be doing them with Nush I think but maybe that won't be happening now with all that happened, I don't know!

I dont think Scott is very close to Cameron. At first he didnt give Cam a chance (IMO. He used to say to Fed he couldnt see him keeping in touch with Cam and a few others) but also as he came to know Cameron more, I dont think he was that impressed. As mentioned, he used to call Cam the sly fox, and would say to Nush that Cam has his manly needs like all men He nomd Cam in the last week and was pretty damning (saying he was surprised at Cams enthusiastic vitriol against Lisa etc).

I forgot Ray had African roots. And also, its a life-changing visit (with the ChristianAid part being humbling, and the BBAfrica bit probably being an exciting holiday too). I think Ray does genuinely likes Cameron too.

But its all speculation/rumour-mongering on my part, cos I dont have a clue why Scott didnt go

Defend myself? Are you for real? Sheesh, if you want decorum so badly why don't you go visit the Women's Institute website or something

Oh Edna that's really funny. I said "a bit of decorum" not a Womens Institute amount. A little goes a long way and anyway, with a name like that, surely you are a member yourself?

Well, I hope E4 show the BBAfrica finale - I'd like to see Cameron & Tapuwa: The Reunion. LOL!
Ray is a good choice to accompany him - they should have a ball.
I'm glad to see Cam visited Nush in hospital, hope Steph went to see her too when she was in London.

Yes dear. My name's really Edna and you're really called Tourmeline

I notice you never answered my question. What exactly did you find wrong with my original post?

If I was Nush I would have asked for Cam and Steph not to visit me. I wouldnt want people who obviously didnt like my company to come and visit me.

Do you really need to ask????

Yes, I can imagine Steph visiting Nush.

On the way out of the hospital she'd start bitching to Cameron,....
.."Look it's all Nush again...Why is it all about Nush?..Why does all the attention go on Nush?....boo hoo,..it doesn't feel good,...it doesn't feel wonderful at all."

that just about sums it up. Nush was very hurt at all the stuff Steph had been saying (and I dont blame her). Steph and Cam tried to make it socially acceptable to rubbish Nush among the group. No point in letting folk like that come and visit you to make themselves feel better.

Ray and Cameron come across as two people who genuinely get on with each other.Ray seemed quite sincere when he said he was delighted Cameron had won.

It was interesting too to hear Cameron say he wouldn't have minded going to Ibiza with Ray.....people might scoff at that but it sounded like he was telling the truth.It's funny but for all the hatred for Cameron that exists on these forums,we've yet to hear a single HM have a go at Cameron or call him a fake or phoney,with the sole exception of Jon.

The wonderful Kate last year had a far rougher ride,especially from Jade and Alex.

Cameron wouldnt mind going to Ibiza ??!!

Yes I do, obviously, or I wouldn't be asking. I'm afraid if you're going to criticise a post you should at least include your reasons for doing so.

Surely a Cameronista can find an excuse for that.

Along the line: "Ibiza has so many nice ancient sightseeings, surely he doesnt want to be there between drunken Brits swinging their genitalia".

Yet another dodgy remark, totally contradicting his socalled wee christian portayed persona

lier lier kilt on fire
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Mind, the difference is, neither of those two ever claimed to much like her anyway....

whereas with BB4 pretty much everyone in the house got on well with Cameron (except Lisa?! and even then i dont think they were overtly hostile).
hell, they all got on pretty well with each other in BB4, that was the problem :yawn:

Well only Jon can afford the lawyers to handle the Stouts sueing them

Still doesn't explain how people who spent nine weeks in his company seem to genuinely like the guy,whilst the ones who haven't are busy here describing him as an 'evil b*****d'

Not too difficult to work out which group are in the wrong (not that they'll ever admit it of course)

Yes,the '£78,000 a year' man (or so he told the HM's) who in fact earns £21,000 pa