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Will there be more new dances this season?
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dinosaur05
27-07-2008
Since it is rumoured that SCD will be on for 14 weeks and have 16 couples (apologies if im incorrect in any of this) -will there be new dances this time round?
Surely there arent enough dances to fill 13 weeks(excluding the final week)?

Usually the dances are;

Latin
Cha Cha
Samba
Jive
Salsa
Rumba
AT (Latin?)

Ballroom

Waltz
Vienesse Waltz
Foxtrot
American Smooth
Tango
Quickstep

Will they go down the DWTS route and re choose dances to re choreograph? Or is my maths just really bad? Help would be appreciated!
Taylor_Gillan
27-07-2008
I believe there will have to be more dances *sigh*

No idea what they're going to come up with but I have to say I'm not much looking forward to it!
dinosaur05
27-07-2008
Originally Posted by Taylor_Gillan:
“I believe there will have to be more dances *sigh*

No idea what they're going to come up with but I have to say I'm not much looking forward to it!”

I know! I just about accepted adding AT, AS and Salsa but what could they possibly throw in? Morris dancing?

Im hoping its more likely they will do new routines in a style they have alrady handled.
martyboy
27-07-2008
The episode of Diet on the DanceFloor (Karen Hardy and Matthew Cutler's program), that's coming up this week is going to have the contestants learning "Bollywood" - actually seems quite a fun dance.

To include such a dance in SCD, and maybe even a celeb from an Asian background (there are lots of them), could improve the appeal of the show to a wider ethnic audience.

And there are also dances like Hip Hop, which also have an appeal to yet another sector of the potential audience.
Loueez
27-07-2008
I may be wrong but I think they do the Mambo on DWTS.... Maybe that'll be included?
pasodabble
27-07-2008
All they need to do is move the 2 dance stage to when the couples are down to 5 not 6, and there'll be no need for new dances. Or the couples could repeat their weakest dance in the semis or final, or there could be a "judges' choice" in the semifinals with the AT...

Apart from increasing the number of couples, we've been promised some "twists" - double evictions, perhaps? Or Kelly Brook returning mid show? Whatever they have planned, I have my fingers crossed that all the couples get to dance one ballroom and latin each before anyone's evicted.

Edit: I wondered that, Lou, but the mambo is quite similar to the salsa... Kristina Rihanoff is good at it IIRC so that may be another reason she's been brought in.
Loueez
27-07-2008
Originally Posted by pasodabble:
“All they need to do is move the 2 dance stage to when the couples are down to 5 not 6, and there'll be no need for new dances. Or the couples could repeat their weakest dance in the semis or final, or there could be a "judges' choice" in the semifinals with the AT...”

I like this idea! I thought it was a good idea in DWTS when the judges choice was a weak dance from previous weeks! It really highlights how much the couples have improved!
pasodabble
27-07-2008
Originally Posted by Loueez:
“I like this idea! I thought it was a good idea in DWTS when the judges choice was a weak dance from previous weeks! It really highlights how much the couples have improved! ”

I thought the same too! We could have seen Alesha and Matthew's paso again or even their rumba, and Matt and Flavia's foxtrot or samba. I've never quite understood the rational behind the finalists performing their 2 best dances. Apart from the fact that the magic is often not as pronounced when it's done again, there's always the risk of getting a lower mark, as happened with A&M's chacha.

The other thing I liked in the last series of DWTS was the group chacha, which was scored. For a 3 couple final, it'll be a great way to compare the couples, much better than dancing different dances to the same music - never saw the sense in that.
bendymixer
27-07-2008
I am not happy with the messing about to SCD this year as it is and as there are only 10 formal Latin and Ballroom dances (5 of each) and the Salsa and AT they do would not be happy frankly if they start putting in stupid none formal dances such as bollywood and freestyle etc if they do think the show will quickly start loosing it's way. The last thing this show needs is any influence from DWTS
Loueez
27-07-2008
Originally Posted by pasodabble:
“I thought the same too! We could have seen Alesha and Matthew's paso again or even their rumba, and Matt and Flavia's foxtrot or samba. I've never quite understood the rational behind the finalists performing their 2 best dances. Apart from the fact that the magic is often not as pronounced when it's done again, there's always the risk of getting a lower mark, as happened with A&M's chacha.

The other thing I liked in the last series of DWTS was the group chacha, which was scored. For a 3 couple final, it'll be a great way to compare the couples, much better than dancing different dances to the same music - never saw the sense in that.”

It'll come as no suprise to you pd that I agree with you entirely! What a shocker!
bendymixer
27-07-2008
Originally Posted by pasodabble:
“All they need to do is move the 2 dance stage to when the couples are down to 5 not 6, and there'll be no need for new dances. Or the couples could repeat their weakest dance in the semis or final, or there could be a "judges' choice" in the semifinals with the AT...

Apart from increasing the number of couples, we've been promised some "twists" - double evictions, perhaps? Or Kelly Brook returning mid show? Whatever they have planned, I have my fingers crossed that all the couples get to dance one ballroom and latin each before anyone's evicted.

Edit: I wondered that, Lou, but the mambo is quite similar to the salsa... Kristina Rihanoff is good at it IIRC so that may be another reason she's been brought in.”

Some people often dance Mambo and say they are doing Salsa the trouble with Strictly is the dance SAMBA more than Salsa this year was a little better with some of them actually
actually doing more authentic moves - so no real point to adding a mambo - I think beeb may regret some of the twists the resentment in some places over 'foreign' dancers being drafted in is great
bendymixer
27-07-2008
Originally Posted by martyboy:
“The episode of Diet on the DanceFloor (Karen Hardy and Matthew Cutler's program), that's coming up this week is going to have the contestants learning "Bollywood" - actually seems quite a fun dance.

To include such a dance in SCD, and maybe even a celeb from an Asian background (there are lots of them), could improve the appeal of the show to a wider ethnic audience.

And there are also dances like Hip Hop, which also have an appeal to yet another sector of the potential audience.”

And can you really see the dancers doing HIP HOP let alone Bollywood????? Just because the professionals can dance Ballroom or Latin does not mean they could tackle HIP hOP which is its own specialised field
pasodabble
27-07-2008
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“ I think beeb may regret some of the twists the resentment in some places over 'foreign' dancers being drafted in is great”

I'm not sure the average viewer would harbour any resentment because the new dancers are "foreign" - after all Nicole is South African, and half of the remaining pros are "foreign" too. I'm sure they all have British passports now but the average viewer won't know that.

Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“And can you really see the dancers doing HIP HOP let alone Bollywood????? Just because the professionals can dance Ballroom or Latin does not mean they could tackle HIP hOP which is its own specialised field”

I wouldn't like to see hiphop or bollywood introduced as competitive dances, but I'd love to see more variety during the professional slot.

Originally Posted by Loueez:
“It'll come as no suprise to you pd that I agree with you entirely! What a shocker!”

We talk so much sense, don't we Lou?!
mintchocchip
27-07-2008
I didn't even know more dances existed lol!!!

Oh well it's something to look forward too!!
dinosaur05
27-07-2008
Thanks for all the replies.

I dont think that I would like to see Hip Hop or Bollywood being done in SCD. However, I do like the idea of the dancers being asked to repeat their weakest dances to showcase any improvement.

The idea of Mambo could be interesting. I agree with the poster who stated that every contestant should be allowed to do one latin and one ballroom before any eliminations are made. I always felt that this was the most unfair aspect of the show and really felt sorry for those eliminated so early on. For all we know, Brian Capron could have been a Salsa king and Quentin could have rivalled Anton in the ballroom..... Maybe not! But you know what I mean!
mintchocchip
27-07-2008
On latin and one ballroom is a really good idea actually. And fair I agree.

I'm gettting really excited about the new series

EDIT: So excited I put three 't's in 'getting.'
dinosaur05
27-07-2008
Originally Posted by mintchocchip:
“On latin and one ballroom is a really good idea actually. And fair I agree.

I'm gettting really excited about the new series

EDIT: So excited I put three 't's in 'getting.'”

Im also getttting really excited!

Wonder how long it will be until the celebs and their partners are announced? End of August anyone?
mintchocchip
27-07-2008
Originally Posted by dinosaur05:
“Im also getttting really excited!

Wonder how long it will be until the celebs and their partners are announced? End of August anyone? ”

Yes, I think it will be around then, someone figured it out somewhere on another thread, as it was about Sept 15th last year, it will be two weeks earlier this year so end of Aug/beginning of Sept!!
dinosaur05
27-07-2008
Originally Posted by mintchocchip:
“Yes, I think it will be around then, someone figured it out somewhere on another thread, as it was about Sept 15th last year, it will be two weeks earlier this year so end of Aug/beginning of Sept!! ”

Thank you! Even if there are some changes, at least we get an extra two weeks of SCD! Just hope the BBC arent letting the quality of the show slide in order for a couple of extra weeks of high viewer ratings. Fingers crossed!
mintchocchip
27-07-2008
Originally Posted by dinosaur05:
“Thank you! Even if there are some changes, at least we get an extra two weeks of SCD! Just hope the BBC arent letting the quality of the show slide in order for a couple of extra weeks of high viewer ratings. Fingers crossed! ”

Yes fingers crossed

I do worry about the quality a little and also saturation, there are quite a few SCD products coming out near Xmas!! But to be fair I think sometimes we only know about them all as we are on here, and it's not like it does Dr WHo, which has way more, any harm!!
pasodabble
27-07-2008
Originally Posted by Taylor_Gillan:
“I believe there will have to be more dances *sigh* ”

There needn't be. For illustrative purposes, let's imagine the Alesha/Matthew partnership happened in series 6 and they ended up in the final. Instead of their dances being as follows:

Week 1 - Girls' group dance; Boys' Waltz/Chacha
Week 2 - Rumba; Boys' group dance
Week 3 - Jive
Week 4 - American Smooth
Week 5 - Foxtrot
Week 6 - Salsa & group dance
Week 7 - Waltz
Week 8 - chacha & group dance
Week 9 - tango & samba
Week 10 - viennese waltz & paso doble
Week 11 - argentine tango & quickstep
Week 12 - favourite ballroom & favourite latin; judges' choice; "group" VW; showdance


With the extended show, they could be as follows, with no new dances introduced:

Week 1 - Girls' 1st group dance; Boy's Waltz/Chacha; no elimination
Week 2 - Rumba; Boys' 1st group dance; no elimination
Week 3 - Girls' 2nd group dance; Boys' Chacha/Waltz; double elimination
Week 4 - Quickstep; Boys' 2nd group dance; double elimination
Week 5 - Jive
Week 6 - American Smooth
Week 7 - Foxtrot
Week 8 - Salsa
Week 9 - Waltz
Week 10 - Chacha & group dance
Week 11 - Tango & group dance
Week 12 - Samba & Viennese waltz
Week 13 - Paso doble & Argentine tango
Week 14 - Favourite ballroom & favourite latin; judges' choice or "group" VW; showdance
dinosaur05
27-07-2008
Pasodabble, are you a producer?

Seriously though, thanks for putting down in writing how this new format could feasibly work. My brain was too tired(read:lazy) to really think about it, but your idea looks very workable.

I wonder why the BBC thinks we need constant changes to the show every year? They must feel they need to keep a step ahead of the X factor and their invariable heartfelt, deeply touching sob stories?
sarah-flute
27-07-2008
Originally Posted by pasodabble:
“Whatever they have planned, I have my fingers crossed that all the couples get to dance one ballroom and latin each before anyone's evicted.”

That would be great.

Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“I think beeb may regret some of the twists”

Me too - they could do with NOT messing with the format for a couple of years running, it does start to feel like they are fiddling for the sake of fiddling.
yenston
27-07-2008
I don't think they'll go for no elimination in the first couple of weeks. It would mean less people voting, even if the votes were carried over, and votes mean money to the BBC!

Don't know if this has been mentioned but in series 3 one of the new dances was going to be the jitterbug. It was dropped for some reason and replaced by the American Smooth. Don't ask me why they chose to replace a jitterbug with an AS!
sarah-flute
27-07-2008
Originally Posted by yenston:
“Don't know if this has been mentioned but in series 3 one of the new dances was going to be the jitterbug. It was dropped for some reason and replaced by the American Smooth. Don't ask me why they chose to replace a jitterbug with an AS!”

Fairly typical BBC logic

Be interesting to see how the couples coped with a marked jitterbug, but tough on the pros as it's not something they'd specialise in.
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