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Can any panny fans answer this-a friend has a 32" Panny HD, (freeview only) I cant seem to set it so that "Genuine" widescreen is Widescreen, but 4.3 is "Normal" ie NOT stretched. if i set it to "Auto" it still streches the 4.3 to W/s, if i set it to 4.3, even genuine W/s is 4.3 Thanks.
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Can any panny fans answer this-a friend has a 32" Panny HD, (freeview only) I cant seem to set it so that "Genuine" widescreen is Widescreen, but 4.3 is "Normal" ie NOT stretched. if i set it to "Auto" it still streches the 4.3 to W/s, if i set it to 4.3, even genuine W/s is 4.3 Thanks.
I don't have the same model but my 37" Panny has 3 additional zoom settings via the aspect button.Sometimes its best to leave it on auto to let the TV decide on best stretch option.4.3 (particullary an analog picture) always looks crap compared to a widescreen digital one. |
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Yup, but i dont want the TV to "Decide" i want genuine W/s W/s. and 4.3 to be 4.3!
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Yup, but i dont want the TV to "Decide" i want genuine W/s W/s. and 4.3 to be 4.3!
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Are there no additional settings in the set-up menu for how 4:3 is displayed? On Sony TVs there is. I would be surprised if a leading make like Panasonic didn't also have this.
Post the Panny model number. |
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Can any panny fans answer this-a friend has a 32" Panny HD, (freeview only) I cant seem to set it so that "Genuine" widescreen is Widescreen, but 4.3 is "Normal" ie NOT stretched. if i set it to "Auto" it still streches the 4.3 to W/s, if i set it to 4.3, even genuine W/s is 4.3 Thanks.
If it's from the internal tuner, then either the digital channel that is broadcasting the 4:3 programme is sending a signal to the TV to tell the TV that that programme is anamorphically compressed (so the TV is stretching it out), or the TV is broken. If it's from an external source, then the most likely cause is that the supplier of the source (e.g. a Sky box or DVD player) is not set up correctly in terms of knowing what TV it is connected to, so is sending out the wrong signal, and the TV does what it is told to (even though it shouldn't be told to autostretch in the first place). |
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If it's from an external source, then the most likely cause is that the supplier of the source (e.g. a Sky box or DVD player) is not set up correctly in terms of knowing what TV it is connected to, so is sending out the wrong signal, and the TV does what it is told to (even though it shouldn't be told to autostretch in the first place). Willie is quite right. For Panny TVs the best thing to do is to switch to an AV channel with source box, (Sky, DVD etc,) switched off and set the aspect ratio to 4:3. Now switch on your source and make sure that it is setup so that it "knows" the TV is a widescreen. Scart switching will now switch the TV to 16:9 for WS material and leave it as 4:3 for non WS. |
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I think its the same on all Pannies (and many other makes like Sony), certainly my text below describes how my Panny plasma works.
Set the aspect ration to 4:3. If you are on a 16:9 channel then it will show that in 4:3 but as soon as you go into a 4:3 channel and back to 16:9 (or switch the TV off/on) then it will auto switch properly. |
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My Panny LCD switches between ratios with scart controlled devices.
My PS3 is connected by HDMI and that does the ratio changing itself The Sky HD box requires a manual change on the tv |
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The Sky HD box requires a manual change on the tv |
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Thanks. ill try as per post 8, its Freeview only, as i posted Thanks
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Only if you have the box set to 1080i (or 720p I suppose). If you set it to auto or watch via SCART (for SD) then it will switch.
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I have Sky+ set to 1080i as the upscaling is far better than anything the tv can do
If the Sky HD does a better job than the TV then it's a matter of deciding whether it's worth the hassle of having to manually switch every 4:3 programme. |
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Obviously that depends on how good your TV is.
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A number of people here have said how poor the Panasonics are at upscaling, which I find surprising - I would have thought a major make like that would be good.
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but I find S-Video, Composite video or CVBS scart upscale to a awful picture
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A number of people here have said how poor the Panasonics are at upscaling, which I find surprising - I would have thought a major make like that would be good.
Playing a DVD from my Panny DVDR the best setting seems to be 576p for films though its very difficult to see any great difference between that and upscaled 1080 (without switching and doing direct comparisons I couldn't tell you whether it was 576p, 1080i hdmi or RGB SCART). I've tried it briefly with a Sony DVD player and couldn't see any difference there either. I suspect a lot of the "upscaled being better" is placebo. I doubt many people do double blind trials and there are no obvious distinctions such as exist between composite and RGB. |
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I can't say that I've noticed my Panny plasma being poor at upscaling, I actually got my TV because the SD picture was very good - I thought as good or better than LCDs costing over twice as much.
Playing a DVD from my Panny DVDR the best setting seems to be 576p for films though its very difficult to see any great difference between that and upscaled 1080 (without switching and doing direct comparisons I couldn't tell you whether it was 576p, 1080i hdmi or RGB SCART). I've tried it briefly with a Sony DVD player and couldn't see any difference there either. I suspect a lot of the "upscaled being better" is placebo. I doubt many people do double blind trials and there are no obvious distinctions such as exist between composite and RGB. When I got Sky HD I tried the settings at AUTO but it was clearly much better at 1080i - even the menu is clearer at 1080i. I have 2 Pioneer dvdr connected by RGB but the quality is far better at 1080p from the PS3. Unfortunately I have to watch R1 dvd's non upscaled and although I can tell I sit far enough away for it not to be too intrusive. The Sky HD pictures are better than either V+ or my Humax PVR - except for ITV1 which is best on the Panasonic tv's inbuilt Freeview |
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